WHY DOESN'T GOD HEAL EVERYONE?

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7seasrekeyed

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My first copy/paste op.


Joni Eareckson Tada struggled with this issue for a long time. As she recounts in her book
Joni, she sought physical healing of her quadriplegia. She prayed and fully believed that God would heal her. In her words, “I certainly believed. I was calling up my girlfriends saying, ‘Next time you see me I’m going to be running up your sidewalk. God’s going to heal me’” (quoted in an interview with Marvin Olasky,www.worldmag.com/2013/01/joni_eareckson_tada_on_faith_healing_and_marriage, January 17, 2013).

Yet Joni is still in a wheelchair today. Forty-five years after the accident that left her paralyzed, God has still not healed her. Her perspective is one of great faith: “God may remove your suffering, and that will be great cause for praise. But if not, He will use it, He will use anything and everything that stands in the way of His fellowship with you. So let God mold you and make you, transform you from glory to glory. That’s the deeper healing” (quoted on www.gty.org/resources/sermons/TM13-2/a-deeper-healing-joni-eareckson-tada, October 16, 2013). Some feel that God will never heal anyone miraculously today. Others feel that God will always heal a person if he or she has enough faith. But God will not be put into either box.

We need to understand that healings, even in the Bible, are very rare indeed. For the first 2,500 years of biblical history, there is no mention of any healings whatsoever. Then during the life of Abraham we have a possible healing, although it is only implied (Genesis 12:17–20). Then we have to wait until the life of Moses, who performs a number of signs to authenticate his authority as God’s leader. However, the only healing associated with Moses is Miriam’s cleansing from leprosy (Numbers 12:13–15).


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[FONT=&quot]The twelve apostles did not heal everyone, either. Often, there were Christians left unwell in spite of the apostolic power. Paul says to Timothy, “Use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses” ([/FONT]1 Timothy 5:23[FONT=&quot]). Why didn’t Paul just lay hands on Timothy and heal him? It wasn’t because Timothy didn’t have enough faith; it was because it was not God’s will to heal Timothy that way. The healing ministry was not for anyone’s personal convenience; rather, it was a sign from God—to the Jews of the Old Covenant primarily—of the validity of the apostles’ message.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]We are not living in the apostolic days today. Of course, God can and does heal today when He wants to. The question we need to ask in any given situation is, what does God want? Does He desire to heal the individual in this life, or does He have another plan to show His glory through weakness? Someday, all sickness and death will be eradicated (see [/FONT]Revelation 21:4[FONT=&quot]). Joni Eareckson Tada will walk again. Until then, there is a greater healing, the cleansing of sinful hearts, that God performs every day.

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LibrarianLeo

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Why didn't Jesus heal everyone?
Because this is not heaven.
"Healed" people still die.
It is/was just a minor, trivial sign of things to come.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Why didn't Jesus heal everyone?
Because this is not heaven.
"Healed" people still die.
It is/was just a minor, trivial sign of things to come.

you did not answer the actual op question

this is not about Jesus healing

please refer to the op...the op requires some thinking and since God still can and does heal, your answer is not accurate

thanks
 

posthuman

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you did not answer the actual op question

this is not about Jesus healing

please refer to the op...the op requires some thinking and since God still can and does heal, your answer is not accurate

thanks
Christ healing all kinds of ills and injuries and diseases, even raising the dead, was a sign of His coming and person, and fulfillment of prophesy. the apostles healing similarly was a sign demonstrating their approval by God as messengers of His gospel, and their unity with the kingdom He taught.

but all these 'healings' were temporary. the lepers, the blind, the lame -- all of them died a natural death, even having been healed. those He raised from the dead, don't they sleep in the grave now?

this was healing of the flesh, pointing to the greater healing of the eternal soul, the restoration of all things above and below to Him.

healing today? i am healed in Him today, being made complete by His Spirit as i wait for the days of my sojourning to come to a close, and my body raised immortal.




people talk today about 'God heal me from my bellyache and stuffy nose' -- yet next year you will catch flu again.
people pray to have their gallstones removed or their cancer to go into remission -- but would the granting of such petitions accomplish any more ((according to the flesh)) than staving off the death of the mortal shell by a few months or years?

that's not "real" healing. i think people miss the point. the flesh will truly be healed at the resurrection. knowing this, when i have a headache or a cold that God doesn't miraculously remove, but lets run its course, i don't doubt or curse Him, because I know that He is working something far greater, and my present aches & ills - even to my own sleep - are nothing compared to it.
 
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Christ healing all kinds of ills and injuries and diseases, even raising the dead, was a sign of His coming and person, and fulfillment of prophesy. the apostles healing similarly was a sign demonstrating their approval by God as messengers of His gospel, and their unity with the kingdom He taught.

but all these 'healings' were temporary. the lepers, the blind, the lame -- all of them died a natural death, even having been healed. those He raised from the dead, don't they sleep in the grave now?

this was healing of the flesh, pointing to the greater healing of the eternal soul, the restoration of all things above and below to Him.

healing today? i am healed in Him today, being made complete by His Spirit as i wait for the days of my sojourning to come to a close, and my body raised immortal.




people talk today about 'God heal me from my bellyache and stuffy nose' -- yet next year you will catch flu again.
people pray to have their gallstones removed or their cancer to go into remission -- but would the granting of such petitions accomplish any more ((according to the flesh)) than staving off the death of the mortal shell by a few months or years?

that's not "real" healing. i think people miss the point. the flesh will truly be healed at the resurrection. knowing this, when i have a headache or a cold that God doesn't miraculously remove, but lets run its course, i don't doubt or curse Him, because I know that He is working something far greater, and my present aches & ills - even to my own sleep - are nothing compared to it.

Amen, Imagine being Lazarus, who was raised from the dead. Only to have to suffer death once again.

God does heal at times, I have witnessed it myself. And it was one that you could not just pass off as a coincidence. And the amazing thing is, The gal who was healed is not even in church anymore (she is a sister to a couple who are regulars, Her and her husband left a few years after the event and has never been back)

Yet I have also witnessed people who had great faith, not get healed. Does this mean God does nto love them? Say it is not so!!

As I said in another thread, We may not know why until we see God face to face. But what we should never do is question him, If he says no, Then all things work together for the good. Like the OP, (and I hear her testimony on the radio a lot lately) God has taken an illness and used it for his great pleasure. And Joni has been quite blessed. More than some people I know who have never been sick.


 
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Christ healing all kinds of ills and injuries and diseases, even raising the dead, was a sign of His coming and person, and fulfillment of prophesy. the apostles healing similarly was a sign demonstrating their approval by God as messengers of His gospel, and their unity with the kingdom He taught.

but all these 'healings' were temporary. the lepers, the blind, the lame -- all of them died a natural death, even having been healed. those He raised from the dead, don't they sleep in the grave now?

this was healing of the flesh, pointing to the greater healing of the eternal soul, the restoration of all things above and below to Him.

healing today? i am healed in Him today, being made complete by His Spirit as i wait for the days of my sojourning to come to a close, and my body raised immortal.




people talk today about 'God heal me from my bellyache and stuffy nose' -- yet next year you will catch flu again.
people pray to have their gallstones removed or their cancer to go into remission -- but would the granting of such petitions accomplish any more ((according to the flesh)) than staving off the death of the mortal shell by a few months or years?

that's not "real" healing. i think people miss the point. the flesh will truly be healed at the resurrection. knowing this, when i have a headache or a cold that God doesn't miraculously remove, but lets run its course, i don't doubt or curse Him, because I know that He is working something far greater, and my present aches & ills - even to my own sleep - are nothing compared to it.
this is one of the best responses to this question I have read in this forum

IMO, it shows faith in God in a very real sense

reminds me a bit of what Job said...even if God slays me, I will still love Him (my paraphrase)
 

Nehemiah6

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Amen, Imagine being Lazarus, who was raised from the dead. Only to have to suffer death once again.
Do we know this for a fact, or is it merely an assumption? We are not told about what happened to Lazarus later on. In fact the New Testament is quite silent about Lazarus. We do know that some of the Hebrew saints were resurrected on the day Christ died, and presumably went to Heaven after that. It could be that Lazarus too was taken up with them. For all we know, he may have been visited by one of them.

MATTHEW 27

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

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And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

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And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

 
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Nehemiah6

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God does heal at times, I have witnessed it myself.
Nobody in their right mind denies this. Indeed, God heals ALL THE TIME. God is the Divine Healer. And Christ is the Divine Healer.

But to acknowledge that is one thing, and to claim that healing is guaranteed for Christians are two entirely different things. Giving false hope to naive or gullible Christians is a sin.
 

Gabriel2020

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All things, good or bad is for the glory of God.
 

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Healings are rare until it comes to the healing of our souls wrecked by sin.
 

Nehemiah6

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Healings are rare until it comes to the healing of our souls wrecked by sin.
You probably mean "miraculous healings" and that would be true today. It was perhaps a daily occurrence when Christ was on earth. Other than that healings (physical and spiritual) are a DAILY OCCURRENCE today, since God is the ultimate Healer (even though He has given the human body a remarkable capacity to heal itself, and recover from injuries and trauma).
 

BenFTW

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If God doesn't heal everyone, does that mean that I can't believe God will heal me? If I believe God will heal me, I must have a basis for this belief. Am I not allowed to believe that God will heal me? Must I only hope for healing, or has God given us something more substantial to believe in? If healing isn't a promise or a guarantee, what hope do I have? God's mercy? So then God has shown that He is merciful to our weaknesses? Is this then not a promise found in His nature (Jehovah Rapha, anyone?)?

These are all things to ponder when this topic comes up.
 

Gabriel2020

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Jesus told his disciples that if they had faith as a mustard seed that they could do what he did and greater things. He never told them that he would heal them. Speak to the situation with faith and it will go away . like he told them about the mountain. Jesus never got sick, ever wonder why?
 

BenFTW

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Jesus told his disciples that if they had faith as a mustard seed that they could do what he did and greater things. He never told them that he would heal them. Speak to the situation with faith and it will go away . like he told them about the mountain. Jesus never got sick, ever wonder why?
He was sweating blood! If that ain't sick, I don't know what is. lol
 

Nehemiah6

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If healing isn't a promise or a guarantee, what hope do I have?
Since eternal life is your guarantee, that is also your hope, along with a perfect glorified body for all eternity. As to healing, you can ask for it, but there is no guarantee that you will be miraculously healed. God healed Hezekiah because he moaned and groaned, but Isaiah took a lump of figs and used that as the healing agent. You can certainly moan and groan, but that is not a guarantee. You could also keep some figs handy. ;)
 

FlSnookman7

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John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.


Am I to correctly understand that Jesus is NOT talking about healing here? It could be argued that Jesus is speaking here of witnessing to help increase the number of believers or that He is speaking in a spiritual only context. I am not mocking or trying to start an argument, I am simply hoping for other opinions.

I believe Jesus was speaking of healings and even raising the dead but to be honest I hadn't before considered the spiritual only aspect.
 

posthuman

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Do we know this for a fact, or is it merely an assumption? We are not told about what happened to Lazarus later on. In fact the New Testament is quite silent about Lazarus. We do know that some of the Hebrew saints were resurrected on the day Christ died, and presumably went to Heaven after that.
do you see what you did there?