Teachers armed with guns in school

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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students? Your biblical views please.
 

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They are there all day long. Some small towns in Oklahoma are doing just that. I heard on the news it is happening in Colorado also. If they are willing and undergo some training, I think it would be ideal. It is sad though, that we should need such.

 

FlSnookman7

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Many nations have trained, armed guards at schools. Biblical? I do not know.
 

Joidevivre

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I am not exactly answering the question, but I wish we were still opening in prayer in each classroom. There is a group of women who meet in the mornings in our area who have children in the local school. They pray for the students.
 
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I am not exactly answering the question, but I wish we were still opening in prayer in each classroom. There is a group of women who meet in the mornings in our area who have children in the local school. They pray for the students.
Amen.. A good place to start .That's the kind of fast that can drive our demons form desiring to enter in. Take away prayer. take away protection of the heart. . The father of lies has been a murderer from the beginning.
 

OneFaith

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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students? Your biblical views please.
YES! I agree with President Trump’s idea to train and arm some school teachers, and that those specific teachers should get bonus pay. If someone worked as a teacher during the day and as a security guard at night- that would be two different jobs with two different paychecks, so why deny just a bonas to someone who does both jobs at the same time?

I agree with the president- criminals do not obey gun laws, so keeping guns out of schools, hospitals, and churches only leaves the innocent defenseless. Tougher gun laws? Yes! Taking guns away from law-abiding citizens? No!

There are spiritual battles and physical battles. If someone is trying to demean you, humiliate you, etc- that is a spiritual battle. In spiritual battles, if someone slaps you on one cheek, offer them the other cheek. But if a murderer is out to kill as many innocent people as possible, it is a physical battle of you or them, and in most cases they die anyways- either by self suicide or suicide by cop. There is no time for them to think about your response to their behavior like there is in a spiritual battle. Do you shorten the time the gunman has to take many lives and cut to the part where only he dies? YES!

God set up police, judges, and armies, and granted them the authority to take human life on His behalf with His permission. He says “They don’t wear the sword for nothing!” Are there some bad cops who mistreat their position and commit murder (taking human life without God’s permission)? Certainly, but that is another topic. We are talking about the ones who do so rightfully.

The fact that we can have trained security guards in our malls but not in our schools is pathetic. Can a school teacher also be a trained security guard? Certainly, and should be in this day and age. We need to protect our children. It is right for one gunman to die in order to save many. Isn’t that what God did? Have His one precious son die to save many? (Not comparing the gunman to sweet Jesus, just saying).

If a place is not allowed guns- such as our schools, homes, and businesses, that makes a gunman think “I can go shoot many people and no one there can shoot me, because they don’t have guns, only I have a gun.”




 

Nehemiah6

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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students? Your biblical views please.
Self-defense is not condemned in Scripture. And since the majority of teachers will probably not be Christians, it would make no difference to them one way or another. Is it sound policy? Yes, it is sound since it would be a huge deterrent to crazy killers walking into schools. And now that we know that the officers who were supposed to be protecting the students could not (or would not) fulfil their duties, all the more reason for RESPONSIBLE teachers to be armed. But there would also have to be some serious safeguards so that no crazed person can simply walk in and unleash mayhem, and no teachers would need to respond with lethal force (the last resort).
 

OneFaith

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Self-defense is not condemned in Scripture. And since the majority of teachers will probably not be Christians, it would make no difference to them one way or another. Is it sound policy? Yes, it is sound since it would be a huge deterrent to crazy killers walking into schools. And now that we know that the officers who were supposed to be protecting the students could not (or would not) fulfil their duties, all the more reason for RESPONSIBLE teachers to be armed. But there would also have to be some serious safeguards so that no crazed person can simply walk in and unleash mayhem, and no teachers would need to respond with lethal force (the last resort).

Right. If a man is a coward he should not become a police officer. He took an oath to serve and protect- not hide from danger. If you don’t want or can’t do a job, apply for a different one! When I call 911 I want to know I can depend on first responders to do the job that they were trained to do.
 
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Dan58

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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students? Your biblical views please.
Absolutely.... Self-defense is common sense. God doesn't expect Christians to be willing victims. Jesus told his disciples to get swords (Luke 22:36-38), and I'm pretty sure it wasn't to cut meat with.
 

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Criminals and psychopaths will still find a way to do their dastardly deeds.
Why don't the politicians push for legislation that restores prayer, Bible reading and corporeal punishment as we once had when the grave offenses were gum chewing, spit wad fights and pulling the hair of the girl in front of you?
 

OneFaith

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Criminals and psychopaths will still find a way to do their dastardly deeds.
Why don't the politicians push for legislation that restores prayer, Bible reading and corporeal punishment as we once had when the grave offenses were gum chewing, spit wad fights and pulling the hair of the girl in front of you?
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There are so many religions now, that in order to not discriminate, you would have to include all their practices- which would take time away from curriculum. I saw on the news that there was a optional bible study after school, and the group was allowed to use a classroom. One mother complained that wasn’t fair, and she was allowed to start an after school Satan- worship group in the school building.

I wish we could turn back time too. But the Bible says the love of most will wax colder and colder until Christ returns. We have to be like Noah and his family and just not get currupted by the dark generation that surround us.
 

Nehemiah6

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Criminals and psychopaths will still find a way to do their dastardly deeds.
Not if proper security protocols are in place and the entrances and exists are properly guarded so that only authorized personnel and students have access. This is not rocket science but common sense, and schools have literally had decades to mull this over and come up with something.
Why don't the politicians push for legislation that restores prayer, Bible reading and corporeal punishment as we once had when the grave offenses were gum chewing, spit wad fights and pulling the hair of the girl in front of you?
You seriously expect mostly Left-Liberal politicians to do something that sensible? They are mostly political hacks and that's why nothing ever got done. Looks like that sheriff was also playing politics instead of doing his job, and of course the FBI was heavily into playing politics while law enforcement became a joke.

The solutions are never with politicians. And because Trump is NOT a politician and is NOT there for the money (which he freely donates to worthy causes) he will get something done. And the Republicans need to start using the nuclear option to get their jobs done.
 
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Teachers armed with guns in school...


I am 100% for this...


Gun free zones make them sitting ducks for mad ppl...
 

FlSnookman7

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Teachers armed with guns in school...


I am 100% for this...


Gun free zones make them sitting ducks for mad ppl...

It sounds good but in reality we can't even seem to fully equip teachers with the books, paper etc they need to teach.
 

FlSnookman7

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I am leaning towards the idea of a platoon size armed force guarding schools but then I ask myself if armed guards everywhere is any kind of real solution.
 

OneFaith

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Teachers armed with guns in school...


I am 100% for this...


Gun free zones make them sitting ducks for mad ppl...

TRAINED teachers armed with guns in school. The teachers to be allowed concealed guns would be trained to be security guards. I don’t agree with just handing teachers guns to keep in their desk drawers. These teachers would not only agree to training, but would be willing to put their own life on the line to protect students- much like a police officer should. These trained teachers should also take an oath.
 

trofimus

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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students?
In EU? Absolutely not.

In USA - it makes sense. But it would seem better to me if such guns were in some kind of locked place in classes than teachers bearing them personally.


Your biblical views please.
Bible says nothing about such specific issues.
 

Zmouth

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Arming teachers with guns? Why not go the full Archie?


[video=youtube;-lDb0Dn8OXE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE[/video]
 

Zmouth

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TRAINED teachers armed with guns in school. The teachers to be allowed concealed guns would be trained to be security guards. I don’t agree with just handing teachers guns to keep in their desk drawers. These teachers would not only agree to training, but would be willing to put their own life on the line to protect students- much like a police officer should. These trained teachers should also take an oath.
So they are to swear an oath to what? To use deadly force? But you won't even take an oath to tell the truth....

[h=2]Re: Would you swear an oath on the bible in a court of law?[/h]I would put my hand on the Bible and state that I will tell the truth in front of God and this court. If asked to say it word for word, using the word ‘swear’, I would explain that I can’t becuse the Bible says not to swear (promise to tell the truth), but to simply let my yes be yes and my no be no. That I am to obey God rather than man.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160055-would-you-swear-oath-bible-court-law.html#post3339676
 
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Should teachers legally be armed with guns in schools and universities to protect themselves and their students? Your biblical views please.
As I have stated before, we are fighting a spiritual battle what we can not see, but the effects of it you can see.We have entered a time when level one problems will not be able to be solve with level one thinking. We are in a time when the wisdom of this world (mans point of view) is promoted and the Cross of Christ is demoted - apostasy (Isaiah 30). Therefore the Cross of Christ (the power of God) is immediately voided; cancelled out and made of no effect in the Believers life that works in them (you have fallen from grace).

Paul says that God intentionally, on purpose, rejects the wisdom of this world and makes foolish (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil). He disrupts, frustrates, confuse any attempts of anyone knowing independently of His way and makes sure it doesn't work. God has made it abundantly clear that He is going to show you who the fool is...and He says, "it won't be Me!" Therefore on your best day all you can do is try and patch up sin...you can't fix it because the Cross of Christ deals with sin(s).

The only answer to sin, problems, and circumstances, that brings Grace for solutions and deliverance is Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Jesus Christ and His Finished Work. This is the only way to solve this chaos,
get answers and for the Lord to rebuke the devourer. This is victory over the sin, the world, the flesh, and the devil.

2 Chronicles 7:14 King James Version (KJV)

If My people, which are called by My name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.