Will Christ set up His literal Kingdom on earth in the future?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
24,344
12,870
113
Brther N6, Where is your proof for this statement?
Here's the proof:
Yes it is the tribulation of the Jews from 66ad onwards to the present time period of history.

That stretches the Great Tribulation over a period of more that 2,000 years. And totally CONTRADICTS Christ.
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
Yes I am saying that pretty much my friend in Christ Jesus, prove-all. There was nothing greater than what once was back then in the end times for christian end time saints.

You saying that there wasn't many people in the whole world back then, is your opinion. How do you know that there could not have been more people ?

The scripture does say what it says, you will have to argue with Jesus Christ about what He has said.

Revelation 9 has nothing to do with the future, that is just staying how many people would have been coming possibly to take over, of course I haven't been taught on Revelation 9 properly to really answer back at you but I believe what Jesus Christ said.

Funny, You say I am wrong, and rev. is not future,
but boast you have not studied rev. or the old testement.
 
Last edited:

tanakh

Senior Member
Dec 1, 2015
4,635
1,040
113
76
ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH . Go therefore and teach ALL nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the the Son and of the the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo I am alway even unto the end of the world

Matt 28:18-20

And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named not only in this world but in that which is to come and hath put all things under his feet and gave him to be the head over all things to the church which is his body the fullness of him that fillith all

Eph 1:19-23

No need to wait for some literal 1000 year Millennium He reigns in Power NOW
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
24,344
12,870
113
ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH . Go therefore and teach ALL nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the the Son and of the the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo I am alway even unto the end of the world

Matt 28:18-20

And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named not only in this world but in that which is to come and hath put all things under his feet and gave him to be the head over all things to the church which is his body the fullness of him that fillith all

Eph 1:19-23

No need to wait for some literal 1000 year Millennium He reigns in Power NOW
So you are telling Christians to simply ignore what God has said about THAT WHICH IS TO COME. Wonderful!
 

tanakh

Senior Member
Dec 1, 2015
4,635
1,040
113
76
The world is Gods Chess Board
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
No need to wait for some literal 1000 year Millennium He reigns in Power NOW
He is in heaven until the “times of restitution of all things” (Acts 3:19-21).
Restitution means restoring to a former state or condition. In this case, the restoring of
God’s government on Earth, and thus, the restoring of world peace, and utopian conditions.

-

I Corinthians 15:27
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted which did put all things under him.


-

Heb 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him
with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:


Heb 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that
he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.


But now we see not yet all things put under him.
 
Dec 4, 2017
906
35
0
Jesus Kingdom is already set up in HEAVEN.

eventually this earth and this heaven will be destroyed and there will be no more seas.
[FONT=&quot]Sh'khinah}tabernacle}a tent?


Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,[a] for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]2

Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]3

I heard a loud voice from the throne say,
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God.[b][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”[/FONT]
 
Aug 7, 2016
203
7
0
Funny, You say I am wrong, and rev. is not future,
but boast you have not studied rev. or the old testement.
That is really all you have to say about what 'all' I said. Fair enough. Love you anyway :)
 
Aug 7, 2016
203
7
0
ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH . Go therefore and teach ALL nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the the Son and of the the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo I am alway even unto the end of the world

Matt 28:18-20

And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named not only in this world but in that which is to come and hath put all things under his feet and gave him to be the head over all things to the church which is his body the fullness of him that fillith all

Eph 1:19-23

No need to wait for some literal 1000 year Millennium He reigns in Power NOW

:) I agree, the Lord Jesus Christ is reigns now already and are with those that believes on Him right now. He is also standing right beside the one who has yet to believe in Him, waiting patiently... Right now.

It's cool to me, but people don't understand that though brother Tanakh...

They say if Jesus Christ has already came back, here is what happens ...

Where is the Hope then if Jesus Christ has already come back??

They may just not understand the value having a relationship with God, and Jesus Christ... and how wonderful it is that they are with them now...

They have to wait in hope of the return of the Lord Jesus Christ... when He is already there. It's really disheartening to honest about it, very sad from my own view because I see so many people who speak against what people say when people tell the truth about the Kingdom not being literal, but spiritual.

They just blinded by their own prespective, and don't even take the other side in consideration, I've seen one here who has and may she find out the truth in her own time about it all too...


God bless, all of you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
You saying that there wasn't many people in the whole world back then, is your opinion.
How do you know that there could not have been more people ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates

the year 1400 there was about 350–400 million people

"Most published estimates of historical world population begin at the beginning of the AD,
when world population was in the nine digits (estimates range between 150 and 330 million)"
-


Rev. has A [standing army of two hundred million men]
that is only one army, there would be another army for them to fight with.
 
Aug 7, 2016
203
7
0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates
the year 1400 there was about 350–400 million people
"Most published estimates of historical world population begin at the beginning of the AD,
when world population was in the nine digits (estimates range between 150 and 330 million)"
-
Rev. has A [standing army of two hundred million men]
that is only one army, there would be another army for them to fight with.
That's enough for enough people to be killed and to be worse than WW2, for the Great tribulation that happened back then in the end times of the Age of Moses . Ad 70 which was the end to the temples, sacrifices, preisthood, all of the material religion age, and now we are in the new Age.
 
Last edited:

Bladerunner

Senior Member
Aug 22, 2016
3,076
59
48
Jesus established the NEW Covenant after His ascension to place the Blood He shed upon the Cross on the altar of Heaven.

However the Old Covenant doesn't end until the NEW heaven and NEW Earth is established and this world is destroyed. it is obsolete but has not disappeared yet. Most of the world is under the Law that will condemn them to the Fiery pit.

Heb 8:13 When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.
Do you know what the New Covenant is???????
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
[FONT=&quot]Sh'khinah}tabernacle}a tent?


Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,[a] for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]2

Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]3

I heard a loud voice from the throne say,
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God.[b][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”[/FONT]


1 Corinthians 3:16
New International Version
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
24,344
12,870
113
Yes adoption into God's family....do you know what the New Covenant is replacing?
If that's the best you can come up with, then it is time for you to sit down and properly study the New Covenant (especially since you believe that the Old Covenant is still in place).
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
That is really all you have to say about what 'all' I said.
Fair enough. Love you anyway :)

You yourself said you have not studied rev. or the old testement.
I gave plenty of rebuttals to your comments already.

maybe you can go to this post

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...literal-kingdom-earth-future.html#post3480625

and try and show us how those things listed happened already?

Do you know it was Jesus, or rather the [word] , back then speaking to those prophets of old?
 
Last edited:

Bladerunner

Senior Member
Aug 22, 2016
3,076
59
48
Yes adoption into God's family....do you know what the New Covenant is replacing?
It is for the Jewish People...... Being grafted in the vine, does give the Body of Christ an inheritance to it; however, being in the Body of Christ, I need not the New Covenant.
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
Hebrews 8

13In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.


It had not passed away when this was written...why do you believe the Old covenant is no longer in affect and working in the lives of those who have not been adopted into God's family?
 

Bladerunner

Senior Member
Aug 22, 2016
3,076
59
48
Hebrews 8

13In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.


It had not passed away when this was written...why do you believe the Old covenant is no longer in affect and working in the lives of those who have not been adopted into God's family?
because it is for the Israeli believers that will flee Jerusalem when the Abomination of Desolate happens.

The Body of Christ will not need it because they will already be in Heaven with Jesus.



 
A

Ariel82

Guest
It is for the Jewish People...... Being grafted in the vine, does give the Body of Christ an inheritance to it; however, being in the Body of Christ, I need not the New Covenant.
Wow....I have not meet anyone who says they don't need the New Covenant.

Not sure how to respond....maybe one of the men can help you out.