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#1 Three Earth Ages
Did you know that there was an earth age before this one? That the earth is really millions of years old? There was a time that we all lived on this earth in our spiritual bodies and everyone was happy. To find out what brought that to an end, . Why we are here and what brought the first earth age to an end. I'm not talking about reincarnation as we go though this earth age one time only. Lets take a look at the first earth age and how God destroyed it.
Genesis 1:1-2
V1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
The word 'beginning' is Strong's number 7225 and means re'shiyth (ray-sheeth'); from the same as 7218; the first, in place, time, order or rank (specifically, a firstfruit).
The word 'created' is Strong's 1254 and means bara' (baw-raw'); a primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): -choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).
God does not give us a year when He did this, just that He did it "In the beginning". The earth is not 7000 years old as some Christians claim but many millions of years old. It is only the earth age we live in now, the second, that is about 7000 years old. The dinosaur bones and fossils that are found date back more than 7000 years and are from the first earth age.
V2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The word 'was' is Strong's number 1961 and means hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare 1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
The words 'without form' is Strong's 8414 and means tohuw (to'-hoo); from an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain.
The word 'void' is Strong's 922 and means bohuw (bo'-hoo); from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin.
God did not create the earth without form and void but it became that way. God destroyed the first earth age because of the Rebellion of Satan.
Isaiah 45:18
V18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
The word 'vain' is the same word that 'without form' is in Genesis 1:2 Strong's 8414. God created the earth to be inhabited but Satan's rebellion caused God to destroy that earth age. That was the first earth age and we now are living in the second earth age. The first earth age as well as the third earth age are spiritual ages meaning we just have our spiritual bodies. It is only in this second earth age that we have flesh and spiritual bodies. Just so you know, I'm not talking about reincarnation. We live in this second earth age one time and one time only. Some people may claim to have lived on earth hundreds or even thousands of years ago but they are possessed by evil sprits. That was going on a lot when Christ was on the earth and I feel it will be happening more and more until Christ returns again.
Now lets go to II Peter and read how God destroyed the first earth age.
II Peter 3:1-8
V1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
V2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
Peter wants to remind us of the things that where spoken about by others in the Bible.
V3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
V4 And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
The word "scoffers" is Strong's 1703 and means empaiktes (emp-aheek-tace'); from 1702; a derider, i.e. (by implication) a false teacher.
The word "lusts" is Strong's 1939 and means epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah); from 1937; a longing (especially for what is forbidden).
There are many false teachers walking after their own lusts today. They teach the lusts of their own mind and not the true word of God. They teach such lies like Christ will rapture them away before the great tribulation or that themark of the beast is a chip or tattoo. We also have people that say Christ will never return at all. Then there are groups of people that set a date for Christ to return and when it don't happen they get all bummed out and kill themselves. That just adds fuel for the people that say He is never coming back anyway. Be smart and do what Christ said. Watch and wait. Don't set dates because the only one that knows the date is God. Just get yourself ready for that day by reading God's word so you will not be caught off guard and deceived by Satan.
V5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
V6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
The word "perished" is Strong's 622 and means apollumi (ap-ol'-loo-mee); from 575 and the base of 3639; to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively.
Some people desire to be ignorant to the fact that the earth is more than seven thousand years old when there is scientific proof which God's word aligns with. The dinosaur bones that are found today are from the first earth age when dinosaurs walked the earth. Satan likes to play a lot of tricks but this is not one of them. Dinosaurs are talked about in God's word by God Himself in the book of Job. Read Job 40:15-24 and all of chapter 41 We were on the earth in our spiritual bodies in the first earth age with the dinosaurs. Because of the rebellion of Satan God destroyed fully that earth age with a flood. This is not talking about Noah's flood which happened in this earth age because it was not destroyed fully.
I Peter 3:20
V20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
V7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
This is talking about the earth age we live in now and looking forward to the Lord's day.
V8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
God does not count time like we do. It takes a thousand of our years to make one day for God. In the story of creation, God took six days to do it and then rested on the seventh. So, six days for God would be six thousand years for us. The seventh day would be another thousand years to make seven thousand years total. The earth age we live in now is almost seven thousand years old. I'm saying Christ will return soon? No. I'm not setting a date and you shouldn't either. This is just some food for thought that we all should be getting ready for the day that Christ does return.
Lets go to one more place where it talks about the flood of the first earth age.
Psalms 104:5-9
V5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
As we read in Isaiah 45:18 God created this earth to be inhabited. We all walked this earth in the first earth age when we were in our spiritual bodies. We walk on it now in our flesh bodies and those that go to heaven will be on this earth in their spiritual bodies once again. This earth will never go away and heaven will be on this earth after the great white throne judgment of God.
V6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
V7 At Thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of Thy thunder they hasted away.
The word "hasted" is Strong's 2648 and means chaphaz (khaw-faz'); a primitive root; properly, to start up suddenly, i.e. (by implication) to hasten away, to fear.
We know that this is talking about the flood of the first earth age and not Noah's because in Noah's flood the waters did not hast away. In Genesis chapter 8 we read it took the water in Noah's flood months to dry up. In the first flood, God wanted the earth dry and it was dry, instantly.
V8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which Thou hast founded for them.
V9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
God promised Noah and He is telling us again that He will never flood the earth again like He did in the past.
Now lets document from God's word that we lived in the first earth age. Lets go to the book of Job. Job's whole life fell apart as he was being tested by Satan and spent most of the book talking to his three friends. They all thought that they had the answers to why these things happened to Job. We are going to pick up the story with God's first address to Job.
Job 38:1-7
V1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
V2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
V3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me.
God is asking Job why he listens to his friends when they have no idea what they are talking about. God is saying to Job, If you know so much, I'm going to ask you some questions and lets see you answer them. All of mankind put together knows very little compared to the wisdom of God.
V4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
V5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
V6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
God is asking Job where he was when He created the earth. This is something that happened many millions of years ago. God is taking us back to creation and the first earth age.
V7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Not many people shouting for joy now a days. This is looking back in time when we all where happy in heaven and everything was going great. This happened before the rebellion of Satan.
So now we know that there was an earth age before this one that we all lived in. There was no flesh in that earth age as we just had our spiritual bodies. God destroyed the first earth age completely because of the rebellion of Satan and that a third of His children followed Satan. He did that with a flood that covered the whole earth. By reading this thread and the rebellion of Satan thread#2, you will know the answer to that age old question, "Why are we here?" I'll give you the answer now and it is we are being tested. God want's to know who loves Him and who does not. That's it, plain and simple.
Please read Threads 2-3-and 4
"In His Service"
 
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nope. not true. there is no such thing as "earth ages"... that's getting into the "ruin-reconstruction theory". It allows evolution to be in the Bible, whihc goes contrary to the Word of God.

and if we're on this second earth, then why does Revelation 21:1 say
"Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more."
it should say the second heaven and second earth had passed away... but it doesn't.

look up Kent Hovind's Age of the Earth on Youtube... he's a creation science evangelist, and has completely debunked this entire theory
 
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nope. not true. there is no such thing as "earth ages"... that's getting into the "ruin-reconstruction theory". It allows evolution to be in the Bible, whihc goes contrary to the Word of God.

and if we're on this second earth, then why does Revelation 21:1 say
"Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more."
it should say the second heaven and second earth had passed away... but it doesn't.

look up Kent Hovind's Age of the Earth on Youtube... he's a creation science evangelist, and has completely debunked this entire theory
Hummm well zill if you want to be in opositition to my Thread, I for one would love to read it, Post it for me please,"I see what you saying" and you bring up very intresting point! lets see here,

we know that: God created the Heaven and the Earth but then the flood "thats One"

Then were are in these Flesh Bodys a Test Age "thats two"

Heaven will be Our Fathers Kingdom to come right here on Earth "Thats Three"

"In His Service"
 
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Your language skills are lacking, your hermenuetics are wrong, and your a priori is showing.
 
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#1 Three Earth Ages
Did you know that there was an earth age before this one? That the earth is really millions of years old? There was a time that we all lived on this earth in our spiritual bodies and everyone was happy. To find out what brought that to an end, . Why we are here and what brought the first earth age to an end. I'm not talking about reincarnation as we go though this earth age one time only. Lets take a look at the first earth age and how God destroyed it.
This is your a priori. You begin by stating what we are going to find.
Genesis 1:1-2
V1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
The word 'beginning' is Strong's number 7225 and means re'shiyth (ray-sheeth'); from the same as 7218; the first, in place, time, order or rank (specifically, a firstfruit).
The word 'created' is Strong's 1254 and means bara' (baw-raw'); a primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): -choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).
While Strong's concordance is a help in finding words, it has only a very basic lexicon and is of no assistance in the grammar.
God does not give us a year when He did this, just that He did it "In the beginning". The earth is not 7000 years old as some Christians claim but many millions of years old. It is only the earth age we live in now, the second, that is about 7000 years old. The dinosaur bones and fossils that are found date back more than 7000 years and are from the first earth age.
V2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The word 'was' is Strong's number 1961 and means hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare 1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
The words 'without form' is Strong's 8414 and means tohuw (to'-hoo); from an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain.
The word 'void' is Strong's 922 and means bohuw (bo'-hoo); from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin.
God did not create the earth without form and void but it became that way. God destroyed the first earth age because of the Rebellion of Satan.
Isaiah 45:18
V18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
The word 'vain' is the same word that 'without form' is in Genesis 1:2 Strong's 8414. God created the earth to be inhabited but Satan's rebellion caused God to destroy that earth age. That was the first earth age and we now are living in the second earth age. The first earth age as well as the third earth age are spiritual ages meaning we just have our spiritual bodies. It is only in this second earth age that we have flesh and spiritual bodies. Just so you know, I'm not talking about reincarnation. We live in this second earth age one time and one time only. Some people may claim to have lived on earth hundreds or even thousands of years ago but they are possessed by evil sprits. That was going on a lot when Christ was on the earth and I feel it will be happening more and more until Christ returns again.
Your hermenuetical error is that your evidence does not support your conclusion.
Now lets go to II Peter and read how God destroyed the first earth age.
II Peter 3:1-8
V1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
V2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
Peter wants to remind us of the things that where spoken about by others in the Bible.
V3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
V4 And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
The word "scoffers" is Strong's 1703 and means empaiktes (emp-aheek-tace'); from 1702; a derider, i.e. (by implication) a false teacher.
The word "lusts" is Strong's 1939 and means epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah); from 1937; a longing (especially for what is forbidden).
There are many false teachers walking after their own lusts today. They teach the lusts of their own mind and not the true word of God. They teach such lies like Christ will rapture them away before the great tribulation or that themark of the beast is a chip or tattoo. We also have people that say Christ will never return at all. Then there are groups of people that set a date for Christ to return and when it don't happen they get all bummed out and kill themselves. That just adds fuel for the people that say He is never coming back anyway. Be smart and do what Christ said. Watch and wait. Don't set dates because the only one that knows the date is God. Just get yourself ready for that day by reading God's word so you will not be caught off guard and deceived by Satan.
V5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
V6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
The word "perished" is Strong's 622 and means apollumi (ap-ol'-loo-mee); from 575 and the base of 3639; to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively.

Some people desire to be ignorant to the fact that the earth is more than seven thousand years old when there is scientific proof which God's word aligns with. The dinosaur bones that are found today are from the first earth age when dinosaurs walked the earth. Satan likes to play a lot of tricks but this is not one of them. Dinosaurs are talked about in God's word by God Himself in the book of Job. Read Job 40:15-24 and all of chapter 41 We were on the earth in our spiritual bodies in the first earth age with the dinosaurs. Because of the rebellion of Satan God destroyed fully that earth age with a flood. This is not talking about Noah's flood which happened in this earth age because it was not destroyed fully.
Here's where your lack of language skills shows. Since the root means to ruin, the addition of "apo" is not used to distinguish complete destruction from destruction, but to differentiate destruction from mere ruin.
I Peter 3:20
V20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
V7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
This is talking about the earth age we live in now and looking forward to the Lord's day.
V8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
God does not count time like we do. It takes a thousand of our years to make one day for God. In the story of creation, God took six days to do it and then rested on the seventh. So, six days for God would be six thousand years for us. The seventh day would be another thousand years to make seven thousand years total. The earth age we live in now is almost seven thousand years old. I'm saying Christ will return soon? No. I'm not setting a date and you shouldn't either. This is just some food for thought that we all should be getting ready for the day that Christ does return.
Lets go to one more place where it talks about the flood of the first earth age.
Psalms 104:5-9
V5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
As we read in Isaiah 45:18 God created this earth to be inhabited. We all walked this earth in the first earth age when we were in our spiritual bodies. We walk on it now in our flesh bodies and those that go to heaven will be on this earth in their spiritual bodies once again. This earth will never go away and heaven will be on this earth after the great white throne judgment of God.
V6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
V7 At Thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of Thy thunder they hasted away.
The word "hasted" is Strong's 2648 and means chaphaz (khaw-faz'); a primitive root; properly, to start up suddenly, i.e. (by implication) to hasten away, to fear.
We know that this is talking about the flood of the first earth age and not Noah's because in Noah's flood the waters did not hast away. In Genesis chapter 8 we read it took the water in Noah's flood months to dry up. In the first flood, God wanted the earth dry and it was dry, instantly.
V8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which Thou hast founded for them.
V9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
God promised Noah and He is telling us again that He will never flood the earth again like He did in the past.
Now lets document from God's word that we lived in the first earth age. Lets go to the book of Job. Job's whole life fell apart as he was being tested by Satan and spent most of the book talking to his three friends. They all thought that they had the answers to why these things happened to Job. We are going to pick up the story with God's first address to Job.
Job 38:1-7
V1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
V2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
V3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me.
God is asking Job why he listens to his friends when they have no idea what they are talking about. God is saying to Job, If you know so much, I'm going to ask you some questions and lets see you answer them. All of mankind put together knows very little compared to the wisdom of God.
V4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
V5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
V6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
God is asking Job where he was when He created the earth. This is something that happened many millions of years ago. God is taking us back to creation and the first earth age.
V7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Not many people shouting for joy now a days. This is looking back in time when we all where happy in heaven and everything was going great. This happened before the rebellion of Satan.
So now we know that there was an earth age before this one that we all lived in. There was no flesh in that earth age as we just had our spiritual bodies. God destroyed the first earth age completely because of the rebellion of Satan and that a third of His children followed Satan. He did that with a flood that covered the whole earth. By reading this thread and the rebellion of Satan thread#2, you will know the answer to that age old question, "Why are we here?" I'll give you the answer now and it is we are being tested. God want's to know who loves Him and who does not. That's it, plain and simple.
Please read Threads 2-3-and 4
"In His Service"
Just a sample. I do not agree with your interpretation nor your conclusion.
 
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greatkraw

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Actually, telegraphing your conclusions these days is supposed to be good scholarship
(just as citing sources no greater than 5 years old is supposed to be good scholarship)

He certainly knows nothing about Hebrew or Doctrine, only cutting & pasting Strongs

There is scope to translate the verse as.....

BUT the Earth HAD BECOME formless and empty

there is room for a gap of time BUT

It CANNOT include fossils, for doctrinal reasons

It CANNOT include millions of years for Physics reasons
 
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BestBeWishing

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Your language skills are lacking, your hermenuetics are wrong, and your a priori is showing.
we know that: God created the Heaven and the Earth but then the flood "thats One"

Then were are in these Flesh Bodys a Test Age "thats two"

Heaven will be Our Fathers Kingdom to come right here on Earth "Thats Three"

Is this more simple for Ya

"In His Service"
 
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BestBeWishing

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Actually, telegraphing your conclusions these days is supposed to be good scholarship
(just as citing sources no greater than 5 years old is supposed to be good scholarship)

He certainly knows nothing about Hebrew or Doctrine, only cutting & pasting Strongs

There is scope to translate the verse as.....

BUT the Earth HAD BECOME formless and empty

there is room for a gap of time BUT

It CANNOT include fossils, for doctrinal reasons

It CANNOT include millions of years for Physics reasons
So the Bones just fell out the sky then buried down as to look like like they where here. LOL
Yea I'm getting good at pasting

Thanks Kraw "I knew you'ed be part of the Pack

"In His Service"
 
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greatkraw

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If you have fossils in the ground then you have death

death didnt apear before the fall in Gen 3

the other thing about preexisting souls is, that is Mormon dogma
 
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charisenexcelcis

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we know that: God created the Heaven and the Earth but then the flood "thats One"

Then were are in these Flesh Bodys a Test Age "thats two"

Heaven will be Our Fathers Kingdom to come right here on Earth "Thats Three"

Is this more simple for Ya

"In His Service"
What is the significance of the three "ages" to us or to our understanding of scripture? Is it your view of Satan's fall that rests upon this?
 
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Slepsog4

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There is a complete lack of understanding about the pre-flood WORLD being destroyed and the EARTH being destroyed. World refers to the order of things and only affected those things that had breath in their nostrils save those on the ark. Earth refers to this ball of dirt which will have its very elements melt and burn with fervent heat.

There is only the present heaven and earth and the new heaven and earth to come. There are no earth ages which allow for a precreation.
 
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miktre

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nope. not true. there is no such thing as "earth ages"... that's getting into the "ruin-reconstruction theory". It allows evolution to be in the Bible, whihc goes contrary to the Word of God.

and if we're on this second earth, then why does Revelation 21:1 say
"Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more."
it should say the second heaven and second earth had passed away... but it doesn't.

look up Kent Hovind's Age of the Earth on Youtube... he's a creation science evangelist, and has completely debunked this entire theory
Hey Zilla
If you look up 'first' in the Strongs it can also mean 'former' so thats not definitive.
Paul went to the third heaven, the place Christ prepares for His sheep.
This in no way allows evolution into the Bible, It was God recreating flesh creatures after the dinosaurs were and spiritual man were destroyed. Since man was now in the flesh, seems God intentionally made creatures that are smaller.
If one is to stand by the earth being only 7,000 years then you must also concede that Heaven is only 7,000 years old also, for Genesis 1 says they were created at the same time.


Actually the 'earth ages' baffle the evolutionists, when they come across the evidence they have no explanations.
For example this footprint is estimated by them to be 1.5 million years old yet at the same time it blows their 'we came from monkeys' theory out of the water so they really don't like to talk about it. There are many footprints in stone they do not like to talk about.


 
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im guessing they use carbon dating to try and "date" the foot... which also happens to be very inaccurate... Kent Hovind goes into that as well...

to put it simply, evolution allows death to be in the world before the fall of adam. That is a blatant contradiction of scripture
 
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Anybody that does NOT understand the 3 Earth Ages, Will Forever be asking Questions about the Bible if they lived Forever.

To KNOW that CHRIST Stated; I have Foretold YOU ALL Things, and to be as Educated as we are, AT THIS TIME; and Still Look at the Bible from

a Religious point of view; Well what can I say?

Love to ALL in CHRIST!!!
 

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I wouldn't debate with Charisenexcelsis. It always ends up with him telling you that you are wrong in your interpretation, hermeneutics, translation, or something else and it is all because his B.A. in Biblical Literature and double minor in Greek has inflated his head.

The point of debating is to exchange ideas, not to tell one another that they are ignorant and stupid. If you disagree with a post, you do not have to use ad hominem attacks with things such as, "Your language skills are lacking." That has nothing to do with the substance of the argument and it contributes nothing.

The Richness of Theology is that there are so many differing opinions. A search on Amazon.com on hermeneutics shows over 6,000 results. So Charis, how is it that yours is the only correct hermeneutic analysis? If you are the sole authority in interpreting the Greek scriptures, why is it that the Anchor Bible series or the Codex Sinaiticus project did not have you translating? Perhaps I should write his All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew to tell him that he can get rid of those doing research on the Greek scriptures because you are always right...

All, tongue and cheek and sarcasm aside. Stop with the personal attacks and attack the substance of the argument, not the person posting.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I wouldn't debate with Charisenexcelsis. It always ends up with him telling you that you are wrong in your interpretation, hermeneutics, translation, or something else and it is all because his B.A. in Biblical Literature and double minor in Greek has inflated his head.

The point of debating is to exchange ideas, not to tell one another that they are ignorant and stupid. If you disagree with a post, you do not have to use ad hominem attacks with things such as, "Your language skills are lacking." That has nothing to do with the substance of the argument and it contributes nothing.

The Richness of Theology is that there are so many differing opinions. A search on Amazon.com on hermeneutics shows over 6,000 results. So Charis, how is it that yours is the only correct hermeneutic analysis? If you are the sole authority in interpreting the Greek scriptures, why is it that the Anchor Bible series or the Codex Sinaiticus project did not have you translating? Perhaps I should write his All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew to tell him that he can get rid of those doing research on the Greek scriptures because you are always right...

All, tongue and cheek and sarcasm aside. Stop with the personal attacks and attack the substance of the argument, not the person posting.
Do you agree with the poster? I stated that his conclusions were flawed and that he lacked in certain skills. As for personal attacks, I have highlighted the part of your posts that you should review. So, since we are trying to add something of substance, do you believe the three age theory? What impact does this have on your theology?
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I do not agree with the poster. It is not Orthodox belief.
Then we are in agreement. There are some who speak of the three-ages and believe that we pre-existed our fleshly bodies, just as we will exist in resurrected form. I was trying to find out if this poster held that view.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I wouldn't debate with Charisenexcelsis. It always ends up with him telling you that you are wrong in your interpretation, hermeneutics, translation, or something else and it is all because his B.A. in Biblical Literature and double minor in Greek has inflated his head.

The point of debating is to exchange ideas, not to tell one another that they are ignorant and stupid. If you disagree with a post, you do not have to use ad hominem attacks with things such as, "Your language skills are lacking." That has nothing to do with the substance of the argument and it contributes nothing.

The Richness of Theology is that there are so many differing opinions. A search on Amazon.com on hermeneutics shows over 6,000 results. So Charis, how is it that yours is the only correct hermeneutic analysis? If you are the sole authority in interpreting the Greek scriptures, why is it that the Anchor Bible series or the Codex Sinaiticus project did not have you translating? Perhaps I should write his All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew to tell him that he can get rid of those doing research on the Greek scriptures because you are always right...

All, tongue and cheek and sarcasm aside. Stop with the personal attacks and attack the substance of the argument, not the person posting.
In my vigorous discussion, I have apparently insulted you. I am sorry. I will try to be more gracious in my posts.