sola scriptura

FlSnookman7 · Mar 10, 2018

Sola Scriptura is the teaching that the Scriptures contain all that is necessary for salvation and proper living before God. Sola Scriptura means that the Scriptures--the Old and New Testaments (excluding the Catholic Apocrypha)--are the final authority in all that they address (1 Cor. 4:6) and that tradition, even so-called Sacred Tradition, is judged by Scriptures. Sola Scriptura does not negate past church councils or traditions. Those who hold to Sola Scriptura are free to consider past councils, traditions, commentaries, and the opinions of others. But, the final authority is the Scripture alone because the Scripture alone is what is inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16) and not past church councils, tradition, commentaries, and opinions. Scripture is above them all.
1Timothy 3:14-15, "I am writing these things to you, hoping to come to you before long; 15 but in case I am delayed, I write so that you may know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth."
The apostle Paul says that he is writing to the church so that the church would know how to conduct itself. Paul's writings, which are Scripture, are above the church because Paul tells the church to behave according to what he writes. Therefore, we can see that the church along with its tradition and councils is subject to the Word of God.

This is from CARM. I saw this referred to in another post so I looked it up. Is this an accurate definition? What are your thoughts on either the definition or sola scriptura itself? Thanks

graceNpeace · Mar 10, 2018

It is not a bad summary!
And yes, Scripture is absolutely the final arbitrator in matters of faith and life!

LoveGodForever · Mar 10, 2018

Who BELIEVES in SOLA SCRIPTURA and who FOLLOW the teachings and traditions of men handed down by the Roman Catholic Chuirch?

Many here professing to be protestant follow their Catholic heritage over the Word of God which has led many to break the Commandments of God.

Who do we follow the Word of God or the traditions of men? Those who follow the traditions of men over the Word of God are not following God.

Do you REALLY FOLLOW the Word of God or do you FOLLOW the teachings of the Romans Catholic Church?

Here is something interesting to think about to help you answer the question above......

[video=youtube;CrB21mc2fmI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB21mc2fmI[/video]

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

graceNpeace · Mar 10, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Who BELIEVES in SOLA SCRIPTURA and who FOLLOW the teachings and traditions of men handed down by the Roman Catholic Chuirch?

Many here professing to be protestant follow their Catholic heritage over the Word of God which has led many to break the Commandments of God.

Who do we follow the Word of God or the traditions of men? Those who follow the traditions of men over the Word of God are not following God.

Do you REALLY FOLLOW the Word of God or do you FOLLOW the teachings of the Romans Catholic Church?

Here is something interesting to think about to help you answer the question above......

[video=youtube;CrB21mc2fmI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB21mc2fmI[/video]

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Sorry!
Gets what it deserves - big fat RASPBERRY.......

trofimus · Mar 10, 2018

"Catholic Apocrypha" is a contradiction. Either its catholic (used by majority) or apocrypha (hidden from the majority).

The rest seems OK to me. I would just add that Bible is not supposed to stay alone, but is a part of broader Church teachings.

"Sola scriptura (Latin: by Scripture alone) is a theological doctrine held by some Christian denominations that the Christian Scriptures are the sole infallible rule of faith and practice.

The Scriptures' meaning is mediated through many kinds of secondary authority, such as the ordinary teaching offices of the Church, the ecumenical creeds, the councils of the Christian Church, and so on. However, sola scriptura rejects any original infallible authority other than the Bible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura

MattG · Mar 10, 2018

FlSnookman7 said:

Sola Scriptura - Those who believe this, can be possibly dogmatic about things towards others because they believe that all the teaching are necessary for salvation, that all of the scripture is inspired like 2 Timothy 3:16 (Which is really talking about the old testament and how Timothy was taught those scriptures as a young child). So if you disagree with them, with a different opinion because you don't view it everything like them, there may be some conflict because of this.

As the bible says we live by the spirit, and we have freedom in Christ Jesus to Love God, and To Love Others.

We have the Word of God to look at and read, and grow in the Knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who changes us from an old person who use to be angry and bitter constantly or suffer with addictions, into a new person who has been set free from the burdens of the World, even though we still bear them, and do fall short and have anger or bitter spells every now and again, but we have the knowledge to know that God and the Lord Jesus Christ care about us, and we can pray and talk to them, and ask them to help us out with the struggles of life we all face that they love us, and others.

If we are to live by what the scriptures have stated only, then what is the purpose of walking in the spirit at all?
Example, Women you better be quiet in church.
Example, You have to confess that Jesus Christ is God, to be saved; Just believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God isn't enough
Example, You gotta do more works, because you're not doing it enough or something along these lines.

I figured I would try to answer, because I don't subscribe to the idea of sola scriptura, but maybe sola spiritus instead

God is the final authority, the bible just let's us grown in knowledge and understanding, and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and His shed blood, and him raising again, is enough for salvation.

graceNpeace · Mar 10, 2018

MattG said:

Sola Scriptura - Those who believe this, can be possibly dogmatic about things towards others because they believe that all the teaching are necessary for salvation, that all of the scripture is inspired like 2 Timothy 3:16 (Which is really talking about the old testament and how Timothy was taught those scriptures as a young child). So if you disagree with them, with a different opinion because you don't view it everything like them, there may be some conflict because of this.

As the bible says we live by the spirit, and we have freedom in Christ Jesus to Love God, and To Love Others.

We have the Word of God to look at and read, and grow in the Knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who changes us from an old person who use to be angry and bitter constantly or suffer with addictions, into a new person who has been set free from the burdens of the World, even though we still bear them, and do fall short and have anger or bitter spells every now and again, but we have the knowledge to know that God and the Lord Jesus Christ care about us, and we can pray and talk to them, and ask them to help us out with the struggles of life we all face that they love us, and others.

If we are to live by what the scriptures have stated only, then what is the purpose of walking in the spirit at all?

I figured I would try to answer, because I don't subscribe to the idea of sola scriptura, but maybe sola spiritus instead

God is the final authority, the bible just let's us grown in knowledge and understanding.

Hmm, you some very strange ideas about what sola scriptura really means - I suggest that you look up the formal definition...

trofimus · Mar 10, 2018

"Consider, for instance, the words of Jacob Andreae—words that were written as part of an attempt to unify “second generation Lutherans” in the late 1570s:

“We believe, teach, and confess that the only rule and guiding principle according to which all teachings and teachers are to be evaluated and judged are the prophetic and apostolic writings of the Old and New Testaments alone…Other writings of ancient or contemporary teachers, whatever their names may be, shall not be regarded as equal to Holy Scripture, but all of them together shall be subjected to it…”

In other words, if you can’t back it up with scripture, then it probably shouldn’t be part of the Christian faith and life."

https://lutherantheology.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/a-brief-introduction-to-sola-scriptura/

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So, Sola Scriptura does not mean that we do not use anything else, that we ignore church councils, synods or basic teachings, that we do not read any theological works etc.

It means that only Scriptures are the ultimate authority by which all other sources must be judged.

MattG · Mar 10, 2018

graceNpeace said:

Thanks brother, I'm pretty off base as normal

God bless

graceNpeace · Mar 10, 2018

MattG said:

No problem!

mailmandan · Mar 10, 2018

graceNpeace said:

Sola Scriptura stands and SDA propaganda falls.

DevotiontoBible · Mar 10, 2018

The Scriptures keep you from falling prey to doctrines of devils and evil people who sound so convincing.

LoveGodForever · Mar 10, 2018

mailmandan said:

And yet here you are following your Catholic heritage and tradition over the Word of God pretending to be Protestant claiming Sola Scriptura. God's Word is not propaganda. It is on the Word of God we stand or fall. Seems you have already fallen because you follow Catholic teachings over God's Word.

You indeed are Catholic and you follow your traditions over the Word of God.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

DevotiontoBible · Mar 10, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

And yet here you are following your Catholic heritage and tradition over the Word of God pretending to be Protestant claiming Sola Scriptura. God's Word is not propaganda. It is on the Word of God we stand or fall. Seems you have already fallen because you follow Catholic teachings over God's Word.

You indeed are Catholic and you follow your traditions over the Word of God.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Maybe you need to read this:

So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
Colossians 2:16 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/col.2.16.NLT

mailmandan · Mar 10, 2018

DevotiontoBible said:

SDA's twist Colossians 2:16-17 and they also play the same game in salvation as every other false movement of Christendom. They profess to teach that salvation is by grace through faith, but then redefine this in a way that is contrary to the Truth. Even though they deny this, they teach that salvation is by "grace plus law, faith plus works." Their doctrine of salvation is a subtle mixture of law and grace that is a perversion of the Gospel (Galatians 1:6-9).

LoveGodForever · Mar 10, 2018

DevotiontoBible said:

Suggest you read this study of the scriptures that disagrees with your Catholic interpretation of one scripture; Linked CLICK ME. At least check it out if you truly believe in Sola Scriptura

Johnny_B · Mar 10, 2018

Scripture alone is a great place ro start, because it will get you to understand the sovereignty of God and all the rest will fall into place. All the Solas and the Doctrines of Grace.

DevotiontoBible · Mar 10, 2018

mailmandan said:

SDA's twist Colossians 2:16-17 and they also play the same game in salvation as every other false movement of Christendom. They profess to teach that salvation is by grace through faith, but then redefine this in a way that is contrary to the Truth. Even though they deny this, they teach that salvation is by "grace plus law, faith plus works." Their doctrine of salvation is a subtle mixture of law and grace that is a perversion of the Gospel (Galatians 1:6-9).

In other words, they don't believe in Sola Scriptura but in their church traditions.

LoveGodForever · Mar 10, 2018

DevotiontoBible said:

Please feel free to show us from the Scriptures........

1. That God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day?

2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

If your lamp has gone out how can you find your way when the road is dark and narrow is the way?

SIN is the transgression or breaking of God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Now do you really BELIEVE in Sola Scriptura?

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

God's Sheep hear his Voice.

trofimus · Mar 10, 2018

This is about Sola Scriptura, not about SDA propaganda and their misunderstanding of Scriptures, so please, return to the topic.

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