What if you were aborted?

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outlier

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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
 
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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
Impossible to answer.

In your scenario the fetus would never know life as a human in experience, education, nurture or nature. Any and all reasoning or understanding would not be from this earth or fleshly.

If you want to attribute experience of life to a fetus, as someone who has lived it for a period of time, I would say that would be on a case by case basis. Some people have lived horrid lives through no fault of their own and wished they'd never been born so they would see it one way. Others who love the life of the flesh may see it another way.

Life in this world isn't exactly something to be longed for.
 
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I always find it interesting when people support the right to take away the life of an unborn innocent (through no fault of his/her own) yet oppose the taking of a life by capital punishment for a heinous murderer (through fault of his/her own).
 

DJ2

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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
I would have to agree with nessuno, impossible to answer.

An aborted child would never experience life on this earth, the pain, heartaches and fear this are common to us. It is possible that the child would not even understand the answer the mother gave.

This assumes the child is even able to enter the Kingdom of God since some here believe that a person must be born of "water" (amniotic fluid) to enter the kingdom.
 

Dino246

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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
"I forgive you."

And that doesn't justify "what if" questions... which I think are generally a waste of mental energy. There is enough reality to occupy my mind.
 

crossnote

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[h=2]What if you were aborted?[/h]I was nearly aborted as I was born out of wedlock, but my mother, being single, stuck it out. Later put me in an orphanage, married, then the two of them 'adopted' me. Later in life at 25, I was instrumental in introducing my mother to our Lord and Savior.
 
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I guess I would not exist, here anyway, nor would I know my mom.
 
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kaylagrl

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"I forgive you."

And that doesn't justify "what if" questions... which I think are generally a waste of mental energy. There is enough reality to occupy my mind.
I agree,situational ethics questions are a waste of time.
 
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kaylagrl

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What if you were aborted?

I was nearly aborted as I was born out of wedlock, but my mother, being single, stuck it out. Later put me in an orphanage, married, then the two of them 'adopted' me. Later in life at 25, I was instrumental in introducing my mother to our Lord and Savior.

​What a beautiful testimony brother! Thank you for sharing.
 

Lighthearted

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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
I think in heaven I wouldnt care. In heaven we are transformed and we dont have the same cares in our new bodies. only unconditional love. After all, we are only trusted to our earthly parents. We are the children of THE KING!
 
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kaylagrl

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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
An aborted baby is what you mean,fetus is Latin for offspring or baby. And yes their souls do go straight to heaven.And no,that doesn't justify murdering them. If my mother made it to heaven then it would mean she repented and was forgiven of her sin,the only thing to say would be "welcome home mom".
 

Lighthearted

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​What a beautiful testimony brother! Thank you for sharing.
God works in mysterious ways when He takes something many of us see as negative and turns ashes to beauty!
 

Tinkerbell725

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Impossible to answer.

In your scenario the fetus would never know life as a human in experience, education, nurture or nature. Any and all reasoning or understanding would not be from this earth or fleshly.

If you want to attribute experience of life to a fetus, as someone who has lived it for a period of time, I would say that would be on a case by case basis. Some people have lived horrid lives through no fault of their own and wished they'd never been born so they would see it one way. Others who love the life of the flesh may see it another way.

Life in this world isn't exactly something to be longed for.
Jeremiah and Job regretted that they were born because of too much suffering but they were just too overwhelmed with their emotions. Still, it is not justified that it is ok to abort a child because he will just suffer anyway. It is the will of God that the life He created must be born into this world, so to choose between mother and child is out of the question.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Isaiah 65:17

"See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind."
 
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And aborted fetuses' souls go straight to heaven. And 50 years later your mother went to heaven, what would you say to her?
No murderer hath eternal life dwelling in them.....the babies will testify against the mothers who aborted them as well as all who are guilty by association!
 

Angela53510

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So is this thread against abortion? Against unborn babies going to heaven? For abortion?

Not sure what you are getting at, or why.

I lost one twin, through no fault of mine, in my last pregnancy. I have always hoped I will meet her in heaven one day. Or him! (Of course, I have no idea if that is theologically correct! This was a long time ago, I didn’t know the Bible as well as I do now!)
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I'm sure you'll meet in heaven Angela. But I don't think the pain will be remembered by either of you.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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No murderer hath eternal life dwelling in them.....the babies will testify against the mothers who aborted them as well as all who are guilty by association!
I thought murderers can be forgiven if they repent no? Or is abortion a special sin which cannot be forgiven?
 

seoulsearch

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"What if you were aborted?"

I could take up about 3 pages answering this question... but I'll try to make it a little shorter than that, so please bear with me.

My supposed story is that I was found in a cardboard box in front of a theater, then taken to the police, and then to an orphanage. The people there had guessed that I was about 3 days old, and so they assigned me a birth date based on that assumption, along with a name they could call me.

I always thought that was my story, and people in the church would unwittingly say, "Oh, how wonderful, Moses was found in a basket, and you were found in a box!" I know they meant well--that God still saves unknown babies, even today--but it never erases the feelings of being rejected and unwanted straight from birth, if not conception.

A few years ago I read that many Korean adoptees are given this same story as their background, and that it is actually a fairy tale handed out to make people (both the adoptees and their parents) feel better. The truth is often much more unsightly, and rarely known or given. I have to admit that I was a little shaken after reading that, since I had believed in that fairy tale my entire life. I had so wanted to believe that someone had loved me. But the truth is, I won't know my truth until I get to heaven.

I was born in a country where single motherhood basically doesn't exist--your only option is to get rid of the unwanted offspring, by whatever means necessary. I once met a Korean woman about 15 years older than me, and even though her parents were married, her father was killed by shrapnel during the Korean War while her mother was pregnant with her, and because she was born without a father, she was seen as "bad luck" her entire life. Her own grandmother told her mother to throw her in the river as soon as she was born. And as she grew up, people in the village would regularly beat her because they blamed any bad thing that happened on her existence.

Knowing this, I have often wondered if my own mother considered aborting me if it was an option for her at the time. I think the most dominant feeling I've ever had about either of my birth parents is one more of sadness than of anger (though of course, sometimes there is anger as well.) However, after having grown up and spoken to a few girls who had abortions (and seeing the suffering and agony of their situations), I couldn't bring myself to hate my own mother, even if she had considered that.

I understand that she probably went through daily shame and humiliation, and I have also wondered if maybe she considered taking her own life, because she lived in a culture where that would be seen as more honorable than dishonoring one's family with a (possibly mixed), illegitimate child (assuming that was the situation--but I have no way of knowing for sure.)

I came to a conclusion long ago that if I had been able to communicate with my mother from the womb, I would have told her, "You do what you feel you have to do, Mama. I have no right to judge you. I know you have to be going through a lot, and I'm sorry that people are saying these things about you, and making you suffer so much because of me. I don't know what you're going through, but whatever you decide to do, be at peace, because God is going to take care of me."

When I was about 18, I wrote a poem about my birth mother, and it ended with these lines:

"Did her heart break, when her little girl would cry?
I hope she loved her much indeed, for that little child... was I."

I have always wondered if I look like someone, anyone... or take after them in any way. I suppose that in heaven I will either find out the answers or else they just won't matter anymore.

But I think... that if or when I meet my birth mother (and I hope I do...)

I would give her a hug, and I would tell her the same thing that I was trying to tell her in that poem--that I love her, that I have thought about her often, and that I have missed her (as well as my birth father) all of my life, and, unless God takes this feeling away...

I always will.

Thank you for asking this question (and giving someone who has seriously thought about it a chance to answer.)

Peace, and God's blessings to you.