Anger and sin

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jsr1221

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We know it's okay to be angry. The Bible says to not sin in our anger, though. At one point does our anger become sin? Society would say someone has an anger problem if the person flips. Jesus flipped tables in the temple. We know Jesus never sinned. Yet it would be considered not just destruction of property, but sinful as well. We know working out is a good mechanism to handle anger. That can't be the only form, though. So at one point would it be considered sinful in our anger?
 
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We know it's okay to be angry. The Bible says to not sin in our anger, though. At one point does our anger become sin? Society would say someone has an anger problem if the person flips. Jesus flipped tables in the temple. We know Jesus never sinned. Yet it would be considered not just destruction of property, but sinful as well. We know working out is a good mechanism to handle anger. That can't be the only form, though. So at one point would it be considered sinful in our anger?
Well, when it comes to anger, I get frustrated with life sometimes, sometimes I get depressed, and very little I may not just be nice, depending on the mood. But it does not happen all of the time, most of the time I am pretty calm cool and collective. Praying to the Lord Jesus Christ, and reading the Word of God, growing in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, and God it would help with anger problems, because I use to have them all the time it seemed.

We all have problems in life, and fall short in some sort of way, but we can find strength in asking wisdom from God who gives freely as long as we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, who gives us strength to overcome these things, and with help with the Word of God, it helps us in our faith, in trails and problems.

Phili 4: 12 I know how to live humbly, and I know how to abound. I am accustomed to any and every situation—to being filled and being hungry, to having plenty and having need. 13 I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength.

But when we fall short, God, and the Lord Jesus Christ are around to help us!
 

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Actually, there are 2 states of anger...righteous and sinful, what Christ did is righteous anger why?for its Gods temple not for the thieves and making money for bribery they use selling those stuff to benefit themselves. Sinful anger it's your sinful heart who response get angry and if its happen to examine your heart why you feel that way and you can choose anyways God given us free will to choose simple as that, and i agree with Matt G the last sentence, all have sinned and fall short still you can choose humbly to admit you've sin and repent your making your self-proud and blame others why you became angry to remember as Christ forgive why you cant if ever that man cause you too feel that way,
 
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We know it's okay to be angry. The Bible says to not sin in our anger, though. At one point does our anger become sin? Society would say someone has an anger problem if the person flips. Jesus flipped tables in the temple. We know Jesus never sinned. Yet it would be considered not just destruction of property, but sinful as well. We know working out is a good mechanism to handle anger. That can't be the only form, though. So at one point would it be considered sinful in our anger?

Well, the bible says, " be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath" (Ephesians 4:26, KJV) It means do not stay angry before the day is over. Some translations say, do not go to bed angry or don't stay angry all day. Therefore, we cant stay angry before a new day begins....then it becomes sin.
 

shaneaccyl

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Thanks for the additional encouragement I agree with that. But its normal get angry we are a man whose nature is to choose sin but praise God to Christ we don't have to be a slave to it.
 

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Actually, there are 2 states of anger...righteous and sinful, what Christ did is righteous anger why?for its Gods temple not for the thieves and making money for bribery they use selling those stuff to benefit themselves. Sinful anger it's your sinful heart who response get angry and if its happen to examine your heart why you feel that way and you can choose anyways God given us free will to choose simple as that, and i agree with Matt G the last sentence, all have sinned and fall short still you can choose humbly to admit you've sin and repent your making your self-proud and blame others why you became angry to remember as Christ forgive why you cant if ever that man cause you too feel that way,
When does it become rightous flip over a table? I don't think God would punish a cop for busting in a door while saving someone. Would someone punching a pillow to release stress be sinning in his/her anger? Wouldn't it come down to what's in the heart, considering the circumstance?
 

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Well, the bible says, " be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath" (Ephesians 4:26, KJV) It means do not stay angry before the day is over. Some translations say, do not go to bed angry or don't stay angry all day. Therefore, we cant stay angry before a new day begins....then it becomes sin.
I'd think some situatuons are different. It'd be hard to just get over it in a day if you found out you're being cheated on, or if a crime was done to you/ a loved one. I don't think God is going to hold it over someone if (s)he can't get over it by the next day.
 
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We know it's okay to be angry. The Bible says to not sin in our anger, though. At one point does our anger become sin? Society would say someone has an anger problem if the person flips. Jesus flipped tables in the temple. We know Jesus never sinned. Yet it would be considered not just destruction of property, but sinful as well. We know working out is a good mechanism to handle anger. That can't be the only form, though. So at one point would it be considered sinful in our anger?
When it's not this:
[h=1]Mark 12:30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”[/h]
 
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That's the whole point to me - is it righteous anger or not righteous anger?
If I get mad at someone for talking mean and nastily to me, if I have ever spoken that way to someone else, then my anger isn't righteous. I'm expecting them to not do what I myself have done.

So I will say they are not speaking well to me, because it's the truth, but I won't be angry with them. And if I do find I'm angry because my feelings were hurt, I don't lie and say I'm not angry. I just admit it and cry to God for help to love as He did.
 

1ofthem

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I think it is okay to be angry with someone as long as we don't curse them, slap them, or anything like that, and as long as we are quick to forgive and don't continue to harbor animosity towards someone.


In my life, I have also noticed that there are some people that you should forgive and just avoid if at all possible. In other words, wish them well but keep your distance.

I have known some people who forgive others and then go out of their way to make a show of it, which only leads to the person getting used or making the other person even madder and meaner to them.

I guess different situations call for different solutions...but in general we should be quick to forgive others and not hold grudges or harbor animosity against others.
 
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That's the whole point to me - is it righteous anger or not righteous anger?
If I get mad at someone for talking mean and nastily to me, if I have ever spoken that way to someone else, then my anger isn't righteous. I'm expecting them to not do what I myself have done.

So I will say they are not speaking well to me, because it's the truth, but I won't be angry with them. And if I do find I'm angry because my feelings were hurt, I don't lie and say I'm not angry. I just admit it and cry to God for help to love as He did.
Wait! We're not supposed to punch the person in the nose first?

Nuts!


(Oh, come on now! Not like no one else was thinking it.)
 
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No it would be very bad to punch them in the nose. I think you're allowed to pants them though...
 

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"Let not the sun go down on your wrath" intimates that the anger will fester, turning to bitterness and/or a grudge.
 

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When it's not this:
[h=1]Mark 12:30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”[/h]
I guess self defense is never needed then, huh?
 

jsr1221

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I think it is okay to be angry with someone as long as we don't curse them, slap them, or anything like that, and as long as we are quick to forgive and don't continue to harbor animosity towards someone.


In my life, I have also noticed that there are some people that you should forgive and just avoid if at all possible. In other words, wish them well but keep your distance.

I have known some people who forgive others and then go out of their way to make a show of it, which only leads to the person getting used or making the other person even madder and meaner to them.

I guess different situations call for different solutions...but in general we should be quick to forgive others and not hold grudges or harbor animosity against others.
Forgiveness can be tricky. God doesn't expect us to forgive right then and there sometimes. He knows our hearts. That doesn't mean to continue holding on a grudge for the rest of their lives. It just hurts them. But God didn't design us as robots. He created us with emotions. Do you think God is smiling down when the shooting happened? I don't. I doubt that He expects those families to be skipping through dandelions the day after, either. That's telling the loved ones of the 17 victims from Parkland not to grieve. Anger is a healthy part of the grieving process.
 
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But then that's indecent exposure.
Oh wait, I mixed up my terms. I was thinking to pants someone was to yank their underwears up. What's that called? Is pantsing someone to pull their pants down...? Sorry, I don't condone that. :D
 

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You pants someone by yanking them down, and showing their bare nekkid bum... lol


I see where your mind is today. Doody emoji for EG, stealing my coffee and now talkin' about pantsing people.. What are we gonna do with you? ROFL Laughing.png


Oh wait, I mixed up my terms. I was thinking to pants someone was to yank their underwears up. What's that called? Is pantsing someone to pull their pants down...? Sorry, I don't condone that. :D
 

1ofthem

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Forgiveness can be tricky. God doesn't expect us to forgive right then and there sometimes. He knows our hearts. That doesn't mean to continue holding on a grudge for the rest of their lives. It just hurts them. But God didn't design us as robots. He created us with emotions. Do you think God is smiling down when the shooting happened? I don't. I doubt that He expects those families to be skipping through dandelions the day after, either. That's telling the loved ones of the 17 victims from Parkland not to grieve. Anger is a healthy part of the grieving process.
Yep, kind of like I said different situations call for different solutions...Seriously though, I do completely understand what you are saying here, and wasn't actually trying to put a time limit on how quick we have to be to forgive others and not be angry anymore...

I mean, I know that there would be a difference between how quick I can forgive different things, such things as someone stealing my honey bun compared to someone killing one of my family members. In the end though, we do have to be willing to forgive all things and put it in God's hands so that he can help us to forgive...which is a lot easier said than done sometimes.