Exodus 4:25

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can someone please explain Exodus 4:25 to me. I know what it says but theres obviously something deeper and of importance not just then but now.

Exodus 4:25
Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!”
 
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The Septuagint (LXX) has a different reading that makes much more sense.

24And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord met him by the way in the inn, and sought to slay him. 25and Sepphora having taken a stone cut off the foreskin of her son, and fell at his feet and said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped: 26and he departed from him, because she said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped.
 
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can someone please explain Exodus 4:25 to me. I know what it says but theres obviously something deeper and of importance not just then but now.

Exodus 4:25
Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!”




Something of the well comes to mind first.
Out of 7 women at the well, what quality fruit of the spirit did Moshe take to heart.?



I can only imagine after all Moses has been through up until the moment of the well. It was his first time feeling peacefull.
Sitting there patiently, and listening to the women sing. It must of been something new yet like home.
Just like so many of us in life during those times of rest.
Who could not sympatize with a man wanting to hold dear that very moment.
Yet, as most believers know there is another Day to speak about.
One of challenge to the very person (s) who contend with the very torah (law) written on our Heart.
 

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The Septuagint (LXX) has a different reading that makes much more sense.
24And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord met him by the way in the inn, and sought to slay him. 25and Sepphora having taken a stone cut off the foreskin of her son, and fell at his feet and said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped: 26and he departed from him, because she said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped.
The LXX has simply made this up. It has absolutely no resemblance to the Hebrew text. In any event, this is a very enigmatic statement.
 
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The LXX has simply made this up. It has absolutely no resemblance to the Hebrew text. In any event, this is a very enigmatic statement.
The Masoretic Text (MT) has been corrupted in numerous places. The LXX predates the MT by about 1000 years. In many cases it is closer most likely to the original Hebrew text.
 
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The LXX has simply made this up. It has absolutely no resemblance to the Hebrew text. In any event, this is a very enigmatic statement.
I don't see what's enigmatic about it. The angel of the lord appeared to execute wrath because Moses' son wasn't circumcised, she fell at his feet to tell him that she circumcised her son, and then he left without executing wrath because she told him that she circumcised her son. Makes perfect sense, unlike the MT version.

24And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord met him by the way in the inn, and sought to slay him. 25and Sepphora having taken a stone cut off the foreskin of her son, and fell at his feet and said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped: 26and he departed from him, because she said, The blood of the circumcision of my son is stopped.
 

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The Masoretic Text (MT) has been corrupted in numerous places. The LXX predates the MT by about 1000 years. In many cases it is closer most likely to the original Hebrew text.
So what you are telling us in your infinite wisdom is that Protestants have been using a corrupt Bible for hundreds of years and should really be using the LXX! That should make the Catholics happy.

However, before you continue being deceived, read The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah by Alfred Edersheim (Hebrew and Greek scholar) and learn that the Septuagint is a SERIOUSLY CORRUPTED translation of the Hebrew Tanakh. There will also be other scholars who will confirm this.
 
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And IMO, the angel of the lord wasn't there to slay Moses as the MT says, but to slay his son because he wasn't circumcised. It makes no sense that GOD would send Moses to Egypt and then try to kill him on the way because his son wasn't circumcised.

Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant." Genesis 17:14
 
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So what you are telling us in your infinite wisdom is that Protestants have been using a corrupt Bible for hundreds of years and should really be using the LXX! That should make the Catholics happy.

However, before you continue being deceived, read The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah by Alfred Edersheim (Hebrew and Greek scholar) and learn that the Septuagint is a SERIOUSLY CORRUPTED translation of the Hebrew Tanakh. There will also be other scholars who will confirm this.
No, I never said use one and not the other. Neither is perfect, so both must be consulted to discern the truth. Some of the apostles' OT quotes in the NT prove that they used the LXX.
 
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what about this part, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!”
 
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what about this part, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!”
Moses was a Levite and the Levites would be given charge of the sacrificial system in the book of Leviticus (so they dealt with a lot of blood). You can trace the story back to Genesis 34 with the story of Levi, Simeon, Dinah and the circumcision that occurs in the story. The third day (counting from he circumcision) was a day of blood shed and Leviticus is the 3rd book of the Bible where "blood" is mentioned 88 times in 66 verses. Moses even slew an Egyptian before he fled Egypt so he had blood on his hands. Also consider what God says about Levi (and Simeon) in Genesis 49:7. Finally consider that God was going to kill Pharaohs firstborn (Genesis 4:23) and Moses son would be spared (he was circumcised).
 

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The Life is in the blood,
Where there is blood there is testator.

Spirit, blood, water.
I don't believe this would be the significance of Exodus 4:25. When you go to the Hebrew text here is what is says:

וַתִּקַּ֨ח צִפֹּרָ֜ה צֹ֗ר וַתִּכְרֹת֙ אֶת־עָרְלַ֣ת בְּנָ֔הּ וַתַּגַּ֖ע לְרַגְלָ֑יו וַתֹּ֕אמֶר כִּ֧י חֲתַן־דָּמִ֛ים אַתָּ֖ה לִֽי׃

Literally: Then took Zipporah a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast [it] at his feet and said, Surely a bridegroom of blood you [are] to me.

It would appear that Zipporah was trying to connect the blood of circumcision to the blood released by a virgin bride at her loss of virginity. Hence "bridegroom". In Deut 22:15 a father would produce evidence of his daughter's virginity by showing blood released at the first intercourse:

And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
 

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can someone please explain Exodus 4:25 to me. I know what it says but theres obviously something deeper and of importance not just then but now.

Exodus 4:25
Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!”
It seems that God went hunting for Moses to Kill him because he had NOT his son Circumcised.Rem, Zipporah was not Jewish and probably did not agree with this custom. The Lord relented after Moses had Zipporah do the deed because for some reason he could not???? A strange situation to be sure.
 
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It seems that God went hunting for Moses to Kill him because he had NOT his son Circumcised.Rem, Zipporah was not Jewish and probably did not agree with this custom. The Lord relented after Moses had Zipporah do the deed because for some reason he could not???? A strange situation to be sure.
Zipporah often gets the blame for this situation, but only recently I learned of the extra-biblical (i.e. not inspired), but still historical book of Jasher (referenced in the bible). If we are to believe the book of Jasher today is the one in the bible, Zipporah was a righteous woman:
Jasher 78:8 "And Zipporah walked in the ways of the daughters of Jacob, she was nothing short of the righteousness of Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah."

The decision not to snip their son was Moses' fault, based on some sort of agreement he had with his father-in-law.
Jasher 79:10 - 12 "For Moses had hearkened to the words of his father-in-law which he had spoken to him, not to circumcise his first born son, therefore he circumcised him not. And Zipporah saw the angel of the Lord seeking an occasion against Moses, and she knew that this thing was owing to his not having circumcised her son Gershom. And Zipporah hastened and took of the sharp rock stones that were there, and she circumcised her son, and delivered her husband and her son from the hand of the angel of the Lord."

Zipporah did the circumcising with a sharp rock, and saved her husband's life. Far from being an unbelieving non-Jew, she was the heroine of the story, who saved her husband and son with her sharp thinking and quick wrist.

As for the unflattering comment about "bridegroom of blood", circumcision is often culturally seen as a male's job, as female's cannot receive it. That Moses' neglected to perform the life-saving ritual, and Zipporah had to do it at short notice to save her menfolk, was probably the reason for her disapproval, rather than the act of circumcision itself.