Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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graceNpeace

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If you are NOT a part of God's ISRAEL you are NOT a part of the NEW COVENANT. Gentiles are NOW grafted in.

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK
circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,

BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are ALL those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God's Sabbath is an EVERLASTING and PERPETUAL Covenant that will be continued in the NEW EARTH (Isaiah 66:22-23)

Isaiah 66
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For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23, And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Yep seems like God says the Sabbath is an everlasting (FOREVER) Covenant with those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD (God's ISRAEL).



It seems God’s WORD disagrees with you.
Actually it doesn't....
The New covenant means that no one is subject to the Sinaitic covenant.

Yes we are SPIRITUALLY, but not literally, the seed of Abraham...
Are you now claiming that we should all be circumcised on the 8th day after birth?
If you are claiming that we, of the New covenant, are literally required to line up with the Abrahamic covenant and the Sinaitic covenant say so!
But then the entire Torah is yours to keep, not just selected bits that are convenient for you.
That is what made one literally the seed of Abraham!

No, the New covenant abrogates the Sinatic covenant.
Confirmed by the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15) and well explained by Paul in Galatians chapter 3.
 
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The covenant on Mount Sinai is Hagar, the Old Covenant.
.God has replaced it with the New Covenant.

If you want to reject what Jesus says, it's your choice.

The laws of the New Covenant is given by Jesus on the Sermon on the Mount. It does NOT require a weekly Sabbath OBSERVATIONS but A CALL FOR DAILY HOLINESS.

You can chose to stay under the Old Covenant of Mount Sinai and be children of Hagar but Galatians 4 tells us God's views on that topic.

The Sabbath is found in Christ.

Jesus is Lord of EVERY DAY
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Salvation is by faith in Jesus Only


If you don't know those truths, you need to pray and read your bible again without your man made doctrines.
 
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Here is a challenge:

If God asked you to spend two and a half hours each day doing one of the following: worship, prayer, bible reading, spiritual studies, outreach/volunteering.....

Would you do it?

Could you set aside 2.5 hours of your busy day aside to do something for God each and every day?
 

Gabriel2020

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No, no. They are the same days since day one on earth., all in their own country and language.
Sunday is the first day of the week in Israel ,and the first day of God's creation. each day was given a name to keep up with each day. It has always been the first day, the second day, the third day, the fourth day, the fifth day, the six day, and the seventh day. That is how God named each day. that is why you don't see names for days in the bible,because they go by numbers. The Israelites calender is very close to ours. One thing did change, and that was the first month of the year. instead of January , God appointed April to be the first month of the year for the Israelites when they were in the wilderness.
 
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Ariel82

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The Jewish calendar is set by the moon and sun. The Greco Roman calendar is based only on the sun. Thus the need for a "leap year" every four years to add a day.

Doesn't really matter because I believe we are to keep every day Holy unto God.
 
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Ariel82

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Modern Judaism uses Babylonian names (with their false deities embedded) the rest of the world uses Roman names with their false deities embedded in the words..

Hebrew Day and Month Names
 
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Everyone who believes, and walks according to the fruit of the Spirit has no debt of literal Sabbath keeping remaining against them.

The literal worship laws were how the people of God were commanded to draw near to God in worship, or else they would be cut off. But in this New Covenant we draw near to God through faith in Christ. And because we have drawn near in this new and superior and perfect way there is no need to HAVE to draw near to God through the old way of the literal law.

If that's hard to understand, think of the literal animal sacrifices that we don't HAVE to make anymore because a new and better way to draw near to God has been introduced - faith in Jesus Christ. And since we have this new and better way to draw near to God the old way can be set aside. Not cast aside and trampled as in a violating of that law, but laid aside as being obsolete and not needed anymore.


That doesn't mean we can't keep the old covenant way of worship. In fact, if the early Catholic church buffoons hadn't invented and enforced their own competing observances we'd still be worshiping in the literal way of Moses. Just not for the purpose of justification (which it could not accomplish anyway), but for the purpose of praise and worship of God, remembering the Sacrifice of Jesus which the Mosaic way of worship points to and commemorates.
 

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Jesus even said to keep the commandments, and the sabbath is in the commandments. I don't see one word where he said not to keep it. He offered good will alternatives to doing a good work on the sabbath if the need arose. They did not cook on the sabbath, food was prepared the day before.Oh by the way, did you know that your reply number was 666? LOL
 
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Christ has greater authority than Moses. Therefore, his law has greater authority than the law of Moses has. Some folks say the law of Moses is Christ's law, but Christ didn't call it his law when speaking with the pharisees. He called it their law; GOD gave it to them[/t] through Moses.

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? John 10:34

In your law it is written that the testimony of two people is true. John 8:17
 
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Jesus even said to keep the commandments, and the sabbath is in the commandments. I don't see one word where he said not to keep it. He offered good will alternatives to doing a good work on the sabbath if the need arose. They did not cook on the sabbath, food was prepared the day before.Oh by the way, did you know that your reply number was 666? LOL
Jesus told those who were under the old covenant to observe Moses' commandments, which is exactly what he should have done. The new covenant didn't exist at the time he spoke those words.
 
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Hebrews 3 & 4 clearly teaches there is a sabbath rest for the people of God and that day is today.
 

Gabriel2020

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MATTHEW; 22; 37-40; Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,and with all thy mind.38; This is the first and great commandment. 39;And the second is like unto it, Thou shall love thy neighbour as tyself. 40; On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. These are God's commandments ,wrote on stone by his hand and given to moses for the people. You obey these two commandments ,you will be obeying the law that was written.
 

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No, no. They are the same days since day one on earth., all in their own country and language.
Sunday is the first day of the week in Israel ,and the first day of God's creation. each day was given a name to keep up with each day. It has always been the first day, the second day, the third day, the fourth day, the fifth day, the six day, and the seventh day. That is how God named each day. that is why you don't see names for days in the bible,because they go by numbers. The Israelites calender is very close to ours. One thing did change, and that was the first month of the year. instead of January , God appointed April to be the first month of the year for the Israelites when they were in the wilderness.
Nope, Jews were given a specific calendar- specific days in a 30 days month which was not the same for any other nation. It is not possible that the 1st day of creation is the day that we call the 1st day of the week now (unless a coincidence). The Israelites were taken captive for 70 years. The generation that was set free were probably doing things the Babylonian way.
 

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Jesus even said to keep the commandments, and the sabbath is in the commandments. I don't see one word where he said not to keep it. He offered good will alternatives to doing a good work on the sabbath if the need arose. They did not cook on the sabbath, food was prepared the day before.Oh by the way, did you know that your reply number was 666? LOL
And what is that supposed to mean? 666 is just a number.
 
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Ariel82

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I am going to be off line for a few days. Its my daughter's 10th birthday Sunday and I have tasks that I need to complete for my elementary team I mentor before tomorrow.

Maybe when God allows and I return we can talk about the Sabbatical year and the Year of Jubilee as God has ordained them both in the Bible.

It may give people more insight into what God's Sabbaths are actually about.

However before I leave I would like to say a simple prayer of you will join with me.
 
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Dear Heavenly Father thank you for the time we spent together.

Thank you for giving us hearts that thirst for Your truth and presence. Thank you for sending Jesus to die for the forgiveness of our sins. Thank you for the Holy spirit who teaches and guides us. Thank you for making our bodies your holy tabernacle. Help us to speak words of life, pour forth living waters into this thirsty word. Help us bravely stand and shine forth your light, your love and truth not only by our words but by our actions.

Lord show us the hungry, show us the thirsty, show us the naked, show us the strangers,show us the prisoners and the lost so that we might share Your Gospel and set the captives free, give drink of living waters, offer the Manna from above, tell them of Your white robes and welcome them not as strangers but brothers and sisters in Christ.

Lord you know our hearts. You know our weaknesses. Yet still by your power we see miracles and Your glory every day of our lives. You are our shelter in the storms, under your wings we find comfort, by your power we have the strength to run the race. And for this and so much more of your blessings we give thanks O Lord.


In the name of Yeshua, our Jewish Messiah, the Seed of Abraham, we pray, amen.
 
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A song of worship, because God always puts a song in my heart of joy and peace...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkDdXhjFy0

I know if You wanted to You could wave Your hand
Spare me this heartache and change Your plan
And I know any second You could take my pain away
But even if You don't I pray

Help me want the Healer more than the healing
Help me want the Savior more than the saving
Help me want the Giver more than the giving
Help me want You Jesus more than anything

You know more than anyone that my flesh is weak
And You know I'd give anything for a remedy
And I'll ask a thousand more times to set me free today
Oh but even if You don't I pray

Help me want the Healer more than the healing
Help me want the Savior more than the saving
Help me want the Giver more than the giving
Oh Help me want You Jesus more than anything

When I'm desperate and my heart's overcome
all that I need You've already done
When I'm desperate and my heart's overcome
all that I need You've already done

Oh Jesus Help me want You more than anything

Help me want the Healer more than the healing
Help me want the Savior more than the saving
Help me want the Giver more than the giving
Help me want You Jesus more than anything
 
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Jesus told those who were under the old covenant to observe Moses' commandments, which is exactly what he should have done. The new covenant didn't exist at the time he spoke those words.
Yes. For a will to take effect, it's necessary for the one who wrote it to die. Until he dies, it does not take effect.
 

Studyman

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But studydude, you yourself teach exactly what is not in the scripture and refuse to accept what it says. You teach we are under law, the scripture says we are not. You teach that we must judge one another by sabbath ((oddly, hypocritically, not by new moon festival, given your perverse justification for it)), while scripture is explicit in saying we must not, and you teach what scripture says clearly is a shadow of Christ, is not.

In fact, just in the brief section I quoted, you contradict scripture that says where priesthood is changed, so is law - when you say it is only priesthood. you accuse the brothers and sisters of changing the Bible, when they are in fact quoting it to you directly, and you turn other passages into exactly the opposite of what they plainly say. You call them antichrist when they speak by the Spirit about the Lord revealed in scripture. You say that to those who believe, Christ will say He never knew, but Christ says all who believe have eternal life and He will lose not one of them - and He says He never knew those who come to Him appealing to works they did in His name.

Nice fruit??

Someone has said, 'you who judge your brother, are you not guilty of the very same things?'

Please listen to yourself as you boast in your semblance of sabbath-keeping and thank God you are not like other men. Have a care, and put away your own human tradition of judging by the outside.


Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda;(Not Levi as the Priesthood was given to by God) of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.



Christ's Word says a lot of things Post. Too bad you don't believe them.

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

The Priesthood changed, and the Law regarding who can be a Priest changed. Jesus wasn't a Levite, but of Judah. That is the Law that changed as it is written.

"31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

You wont accept these Words because they expose your religion as from man, not Jesus, just like your preaching that Jesus battled against God and His Words, and "triumphed over God" in Col. 2 is from man.

Your true hatred is for the God of the Bible, not me. But I welcome your scorn, it means I must be on the right track.
 

Studyman

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Christ has greater authority than Moses. Therefore, his law has greater authority than the law of Moses has. Some folks say the law of Moses is Christ's law, but Christ didn't call it his law when speaking with the pharisees. He called it their law; GOD gave it to them[/t] through Moses.
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? John 10:34

In your law it is written that the testimony of two people is true. John 8:17


They claimed the Law of Moses as "their" Law. Yet rejected much of what was written in it.

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
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But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? (Which are the same)

It is man's religious traditions to separate the Word's of Christ in the OT from the Word's of Christ in the NT. Jesus didn't do that.


23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
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He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

The serpent was able to convince Eve to listen to it, and reject Christ's Instructions. There is no evidence in the Word that suggests it has stopped trying to do this. Just the opposite. But to do this it must convince people to JUDGE God's Word and be willing to ignore and judge some of Christ's Word's as unworthy of respect, depending on the religious tradition being furthered.

Some, who come in Christ's name, preach Jesus was correcting God in Matt. 5, but He was correcting the teaching of the Pharisees, "them of old time", as it is written.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

When did Jesus first say this?

Lev. 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Jesus said there would be "MANY" who "come in His Name' who will tell lies about God (Deceive means to convince someone of a lie)

If you believe Jesus taught against, or differently than He taught as God of the Old Testament, then you are a victim of this warning. My hope is that you will turn and "Take Heed" to listen to and believe all of Christ's Words, not just the ones that can be used to promote some religious traditions.
 
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