Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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Extra Scriptual opinion: as concessions to Jewish feelings

Word of YHWH: Acts 15:28-29, "For it seemed good to the Set-apart Spirit,.."
The gentile believers wouldn't have been able to worship in the synagogues if they hadn't kept the rules of the synagogues. And the rules of the synagogues were that proselytes of the gate obey the Noahide laws. At the time, because the churches were in the synagogues, that is the only access to scripture and teaching the gentile believers had. So yes, it seemed good to the holy spirit to tell them to abide by the rules of the synagogues so they could stay there and grow in the faith.
 
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So when they say "For it seemed good to the Set-apart Spirit" they mean the Jews? Not the Holy Spirit of YHWH but the Jews? Maybe you should tell them they wrote it wrong then...

Acts 15:28-29, "For it seemed good to the Set-apart Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessities: that you abstain from what is offered to idols, and blood, and what is strangled, and whoring. If you keep yourselves from these, you shall do well. Be strong!"

No this was a bisic set of guidelines given by insparation of the Holy Spirit for new gentile converts in Messiah, as they would learn the ways of Yah because they gathered every Sabbath as the word says:
Your reasoning contradicts the teaching of apostle Paul because he taught gentile believers that eating food offered to idols was not a problem if a person had strong enough faith (1 Corinthians 8:4-13). It also contradicts what Jesus said (Mark 7:15)
 

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Should we only do God's will on the 7th day or every day?
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

It is God's will to do our work 6 days a week.
 
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The way I study is that I start with one scripture about The topic. Read it in context and try and understand what it means.

1st time I read it I read it straight through and write down what it clearly says. I make notes about things I don't understand. Sometimes look at various translations of a certain verse for clarity. I call this reading for content.

2Nd time I read it. I look for historical clues. I may look at Bible commentary about the time it was believe to be written and what is happening to the Jewish people and the world at the time God inspired the author to write the words. I try and ask....what was God saying to the people of that time? I call this second reading: reading for Historical context.

The third time I read the passage. I pray and ask God how does this apply for today? What message or moral lesson can we learn from the story? What laws sti apply to us? What faded away with the destruction of the Temple (abolishment of Old Covenant and establishment of the New Covenant)? I call the third reading: practical application for the modern age.

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I know folks want to post a string of scriptures to prove their point, but it's just not the way I study or discuss scriptures with folks and actually learn anything.

So if you want to, I wanted to examine a few scriptures about the BIBLICAL meaning of SABBATH and what God says about it....a few verses at a time.

Reading the scriptures at least three times.
 
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If you don't understand theses verses below

Shows the difference between the Old covenant established on Mount Sinai (ten comandments and all established by Moses) & the New Covenant established by Jesus....,., you won't agree with anything I have to say on the topic. Just a heads up.
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Galatians 4

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the[d] two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
 
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Old covenant

Numbers 15:32-36 New King James Version (NKJV)
Penalty for Violating the Sabbath
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

But Paul wasn't physically dead. Right? I mean, he was Spiritually dead. And how did this happen? Who killed Him? Was it not the "whole congregation of the Lord"? Moses, Joshua, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel?

How did the Law come to Paul? Was in not through the Words the Christ gave to His Congregation? Is Jesus not the Rock, and His congregation "stones"?

So Paul would be the first one to tell you he, like the Pharisees, had corrupted God's Sabbath. When the Law was revealed to him, he found that it condemned him. I would say this Spiritual stoning of those who continue in transgression of God's Commandments is still valid to this day? The only thing different is the Priesthood, how God's Instructions are administered and how sins are forgiven. The penalty did not change, only the manner in which it is forgiven. The wages of sin is still death today as it was in Moses time.



5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
 
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1st reading Exodus 16

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4Then the LORD said to Moses, “Behold, I am about to rain bread from heaven for you, and the people shall go out and gather a day’s portion every day, that I may test them, whether they will walk in my law or not. 5On the sixth day, when they prepare what they bring in, it will be twice as much as they gather daily.” 6So Moses and Aaron said to all the people of Israel, “At evening you shall know that it was the LORD who brought you out of the land of Egypt, 7and in the morning you shall see the glory of the LORD, because he has heard your grumbling against the LORD. For what are we, that you grumble against us?” 8And Moses said, “When the LORD gives you in the evening meat to eat and in the morning bread to the full, because the LORD has heard your grumbling that you grumble against him—what are we? Your grumbling is not against us but against the LORD.”

9Then Moses said to Aaron, “Say to the whole congregation of the people of Israel, ‘Come near before the LORD, for he has heard your grumbling.’” 10And as soon as Aaron spoke to the whole congregation of the people of Israel, they looked toward the wilderness, and behold, the glory of the LORD appeared in the cloud. 11And the LORD said to Moses, 12“I have heard the grumbling of the people of Israel. Say to them, ‘At twilight you shall eat meat, and in the morning you shall be filled with bread. Then you shall know that I am the LORD your God.’”

13In the evening quail came up and covered the camp, and in the morning dew lay around the camp. 14And when the dew had gone up, there was on the face of the wilderness a fine, flake-like thing, fine as frost on the ground. 15When the people of Israel saw it, they said to one another, “What is it?”a For they did not know what it was. And Moses said to them, “It is the bread that the LORD has given you to eat. 16This is what the LORD has commanded: ‘Gather of it, each one of you, as much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,b according to the number of the persons that each of you has in his tent.’” 17And the people of Israel did so. They gathered, some more, some less. 18But when they measured it with an omer, whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack. Each of them gathered as much as he could eat. 19And Moses said to them, “Let no one leave any of it over till the morning.” 20But they did not listen to Moses. Some left part of it till the morning, and it bred worms and stank. And Moses was angry with them. 21Morning by morning they gathered it, each as much as he could eat; but when the sun grew hot, it melted.

22On the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers each. And when all the leaders of the congregation came and told Moses, 23he said to them, “This is what the LORD has commanded: ‘Tomorrow is a day of solemn rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD; bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over lay aside to be kept till the morning.’” 24So they laid it aside till the morning, as Moses commanded them, and it did not stink, and there were no worms in it. 25Moses said, “Eat it today, for today is a Sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field. 26Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, which is a Sabbath, there will be none.”

27On the seventh day some of the people went out to gather, but they found none. 28And the LORD said to Moses, “How long will you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws? 29See! The LORD has given you the Sabbath; therefore on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Remain each of you in his place; let no one go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30So the people rested on the seventh day.

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Challenge:
Summarize the story in your own words.


Gotta do chores and clean my house. Feed the family, etc. Will be back when God allows.
 
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Wow...folks are so devote to the Old covenant they want to stone people?....

Not going down that rabbit hole. Gonna focus back in the Bible and go clean my house and pray for a bit.
 

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If you don't understand theses verses below

Shows the difference between the Old covenant established on Mount Sinai (ten comandments and all established by Moses) & the New Covenant established by Jesus....,., you won't agree with anything I have to say on the topic. Just a heads up.
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Galatians 4

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the[d] two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
What I have learned, that is not taught in Christianity today, much to my despair, is the Biblical fact that the Jews continued to further their version of the Levitical Priesthood sacrificial, ceremonial "works of the Law" for remission of sins throughout the NT. This Priesthood was the Old Covenant God "ADDED" the His Covenant with Abraham.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Jesus, before becoming a man, "ADDED" this Priesthood to the Laws Abraham kept as Paul tells us in Gal. 3:19.

Ex. 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.

This "ADDED" covenant was a temporary covenant and was to lead folks to Christ and His Sacrifice until He (The Seed) should come. It was a carnal commandment.

Heb. 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, (Appointed by fleshy men of a certain bloodline, Levites)but after the power of an endless life. (God became a man)

These Jews we still trying to "Bewitch" the Galatians by trying to get them to follow their religious traditions which included their version of the Levitical Priesthood "Law of Works" for the remission of sins.

But Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood, Levi wasn't even born yet. But he was still forgiven his sins. How? He was justified by Faith (obedience to the Father) not by the fleshy Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" which they had corrupted.

Abraham obeyed the "Law of faith" which was Spiritual. "Free woman". But the Jews were still holding on to their version of the other covenant, Bond Woman, which was carnal, fleshy. The promise of the New Priesthood, the New Covenant is foretold in the life of Abraham. Even in Ex. 34;

1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

The New Covenant was never a change in the Law of Faith that Abraham was blessed for keeping. There is nothing wrong with God's Instructions. Because of rebellion God ADDED" a carnal Priesthood until the "SEED should come". This changed Priesthood is the New Covenant. Nothing else has changed.

Because the Jews had corrupted God's Word for so long, Jesus had to clear the air. It was never against God's Sabbath Commandment to walk in fellowship with Christ and eat a strawberry or help a brother in need. It was against the religious traditions of the Jews who Jesus said "Taught for doctrines the Commandments on men, not from God.

They had been deceiving folks for a long time and Jesus spent a great deal of time correcting their doctrines.

Matt. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Lev. 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

The Pharisees were teaching some things about God, but omitting others. Jesus clears the air on their teaching in Matt. 5. and Matt. 23.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

I know these things are not taught in MC, but if you open your mind and look into it in faith, you will see what I mean by this post.
 

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Originally Posted by lightbearer

I love Hebrews chapter 4

Heb 4:10: For he that is entered into his rest [received the Gospel], he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His.
Because of receiving the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. "As" is a direct comparison. So with that you must ask yourself how and when did God cease from his own works?

The answer to that is recorded in Gen 2.... on the Seventh Day, And God did rest from all His work on the seventh day (see Hebrews 4:4 and Genesis Chapter 2:1-3).

God Is a Spiritual Being he is always in the state of Spiritual Rest. HE did not enter into the Rest of the GOSPEL. On the Seventh Day the Sabbath he ceased from the physical labor of creation. And this is recorded in Genesis 2.


Therefore they that have received the Gospel Rest, cease from their own physical work as God did from His physical work on the 7th day Sabbath. And this is, was and will continue to be done on the Seventh day of the week.
That is not true.
Sure it is.
We work and do God's will even on the Seventh day as Jesus did.
We can work GOD's will on the Seventh Day Sabbath; any day for that matter. But if our work is for works sake; our normal routine to survive, then we sin and we are not resting as GOD intended on the Seventh Day which is the Sabbath.
The Pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath as some claim keeping the Sabbath every day is impossible.
Being Spiritual through the Rest that is found in Christ Jesus is possible every day; every minute; every second. The Pharisees were misguided. The work Jesus did in healing others; providing for their needs to further the Gospel is Spiritual work. If one is resting in the Rest of the Gospel then they can not help but do for others through the love that is in them from GOD.

God says if we chose to value every day that is fine, just as we can choose to eat or not eat meat as God leads us.
No mention of the Seventh Day Sabbath




Hopefully people will learn how to pray without ceasing.
Amen!

We don't stop from doing God's work or physical labor until God calls us to discard these temporary tabernacle and join Him in Heaven. Yet while we carry His yoke, Jesus promises us rest.
Then we have not recieved the Rest of the Gospel. Because those who have received the rest of the Gospel cease from their own works as GOD did from HIS. GOD is a Spiritual being who is always in the Spirit. HE did not enter into Spiritual rest on the Seventh Day. He is the Spiritual rest through Christ.
Do you know what kind of rest God promises?
Yes. We rest in Christ which enables HIM to rest in us and both to will and do HIS good pleasure.
 
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If you find your burden is too heavy, examine what you are carrying and see if it's from God or from the world.

God's burdens are light and good. They all have a purpose and God reveals to us our tasks in this world. If people want to twist what I say to promote their own agenda, it is their choice.

How can you expect anything less? Even Satan quoted the Bible in his attempts to lead Jesus astray.

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Matt. 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
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There is only One True Gospel and that is Faith in Jesus saves.

Faith in your own works, faith in the Old covenant....all will lead to hell fire.
Hello Ariel,

I just woke up and spent a lot of time going through what has been posted here since I was a sleep. So far it seems you have not poster one scripture that says God's Sabbath is EVERYDAY like your OP says.

You have not posted (or anyone else here) one scripture that says God's Sabbath is Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day or any day other day as a HOLY DAY.

So the question should be asked who do you follow? Sola Scriptura or the Roman Catholic Church?

No one here is saying that we are to have faith in our works. This has been stated many times already. Yet you say this because you have no scripture for your tradition.

Please if you believe you have God's WORD for your OP show us where it says in God's WORD that God's Sabbath is EVERYDAY and where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

We are told there are two covenants, two people....the illegelimate children of Hagar who are slaves and the blessed heirs in Christ born of our mother the Heavenly Jerusalem.

Some people want to enslave others to the Old Covenant.

I want to talk to people who know and understand what it means to be born again, have circumcised hearts, be lead by the Holy spirit who tells them they are children of God under the New Covenant ratified by Jesus death, burial, resurrection and ascension into Heaven.

I want to discuss what the Bible tells us is God's Sabbath and not be side tracked by false accusations.
Now it seems you wish to change the topic of your OP here. I am happy to talk about the Covenants with you if you like? I think they are important because you cannot understand the NEW COVENANT if you do NOT UNDERSTAND the OLD Covenant.

Do you want to talk COVENANTS? IF so what makes up the OLD COVENANT in your VIEW and what are is the purposes of the different laws in the OLD Covenant?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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New Covenant

John 5
” 8Jesus said to him, “Get up, take up your bed, and walk.” 9And at once the man was healed, and he took up his bed and walked.

Now that day was the Sabbath. 10So the Jewsd said to the man who had been healed, “It is the Sabbath, and it is not lawful for you to take up your bed.” 11But he answered them, “The man who healed me, that man said to me, ‘Take up your bed, and walk.’” 12They asked him, “Who is the man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13Now the man who had been healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, as there was a crowd in the place. 14Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.” 15The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him. 16And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.

18This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Hello Ariel,

Is it your BELIEF that Jesus broke his OWN Sabbath after he commanded his people to keep it HOLY?
In your view if Jesus broke the Sabbath does that make Jesus a sinner as the SABBATH is the 4th Commandment of the 10?

If Jesus was a sinner how could he be our perfect sacrifice and have fulfilled God's LAW?

Can you see where your belief is leading you to?

Jesus did not break the 4th Commandment he rebuked the religious teachers of the day because they placed so many man made traditions around Sabbath observance that it had become a burden to the people. It was though mankind was made for the Sabbath.

Jesus rebuked the religious teachers of the day for their traditions that led many to break the Commandments of God, teaching all that he is the Lord and CREATOR of the Sabbath and the SABBATH was made for MANKIND and NOT man for the Sabbath and that it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath.

Jesus only broke his Sabbath in the minds of the religious teachers that placed man made traditions around Sabbath observance.

If Jesus broke the Sabbath he could not be our perfect sacrifice.

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MARK 2
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And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28, Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luke 6
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And Jesus answering them said, Have you not read so much as this, what David did, when he was hungry, and they who were with him;
4, How he went into the house of God, and did take and eat the showbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat, but for the priests alone?
5, And he said unto them, The Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
6, And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered.
7, And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
8, But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man who had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.
9, Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?
10, And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth your hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
11, And they were filled with fury; and discussed one with another what they might do to Jesus.

Matthew 12
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For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9, And when he was departed from there, he went into their synagogue:
10, And, behold, there was a man who had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11, And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12, How much then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

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Now please where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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The "ceremonial" Laws are (since Christ's Resurrection) not obligatory for Christians...
...And the observance of them is, according to Scripture, "soul subverting apostasy".
...Both for those who push these dead systems & those who adopt them into practice.
Hello Python, this is correct. Where your argument falls down however is that ALL God's Commandments written on stone are NOT CEREMONIAL LAWS. The CEREMONIAL laws or ORDINANCES are from the book of the Covenant not the tables of stone.

These are the SHADOW laws that pointed to JESUS for remission of sin and God's plan of salvation

SCRIPTURE SUPPORT HERE CLICK ME HERE.


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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Old covenant

Numbers 15:32-36 New King James Version (NKJV)
Penalty for Violating the Sabbath
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
Indeed. UNDER the CIVIL laws of the book of the COVENANT all who OPENLY broke ANY of God's Commandments (not just the 4th Commandment) where punished by the CIVIL laws of Israel.

For example....

Death Penalties under the CIVIL laws of Israel in the Old Covenant.

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 400, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD] Commandment [/TD]
[TD] SIN[/TD]
[TD] REFERENCE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] First[/TD]
[TD] Serviing other Gods[/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:6-18; 1Sam 26:19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Second[/TD]
[TD] Idolatary [/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:1-10; 17:2-5; 27:15;
Deut 7:25-26
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Third[/TD]
[TD] Using God's name in Vain[/TD]
[TD] Lev 24:10-17 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Fourth[/TD]
[TD] Breaking Sabbath[/TD]
[TD] Exodus 31:14-15; 35:2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Fifth[/TD]
[TD] Dishonor Parents[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20:9; Deut 21:18-21; Ex 21:17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Sixth[/TD]
[TD] Murder[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:12-14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Seventh[/TD]
[TD] Adultery[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20; John 8:5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Eighth[/TD]
[TD] Stealing (kidnapping)[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Ninth[/TD]
[TD] Lying[/TD]
[TD] Deuteronomy 19:15-21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Tenth[/TD]
[TD] Coveting[/TD]
[TD] none [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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This was to teach God's people under the OLD COVENANT that the wages of SIN is death the same as it does UNDER the NEW COVENANT. The ONLY thing that is changed in the new COVENANT is that we are UNDER GRACE until the 2nd COMING. AT the 2nd COMING the judgements of GOD will the handed out to all those who reject the GIFT of God's dear SON.

Romans 6:23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 12
17,
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18, If it be possible, as much as lies in you, live peaceably with all men.
19, Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the Lord.

Romans 2
4,
Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
5, But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart treasure up unto yourself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6, Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7, To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life:
8, But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek


Yep does not look good for those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN come Judgement day.

WE are NO LONGER living in ISRAEL UNDER THE OLD COVENANT we are in the NEW COVENANT NOW.

God's Judgements are indeed COMING and are administered by GOD himself at the 2nd COMING.

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NOW, what your post here, has to do with the OP, I am not sure.

Now please, where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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When I get a chance I will bring forth scriptures of what the Sabbath was in the Old testament and what Jesus changed it to in the New Covenant.
Please you have not posted any scripture so far in support of your Catholic heritage. Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of God over the teahcings and traditions of men.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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What I state quite simply is:

If you don't believe you can keep the Sabbath EVERY DAY. Then you have a false legalistic understanding of the Sabbath and not what God created it for.
Really so where are your scriptures that support your teaching that God's Sabbath is EVERYDAY?

God's WORD says; God's SABBATH is the SEVENTH DAY NOT EVERYDAY.

Genesis 2
1,
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And
ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And
GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, and made it HOLY <the 7th day>: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

links to

Exodus 20
8,
Remember theSABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the
SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11,
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

I don't tell people to break the 4th Commandment but to keep it as JESUS TAUGHT, not according to the teachings of men or modern day Pharisees.
So you keep the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH as a HOLY DAY where NO SECULAR or DOMESTIC WORK, SHOPPING, BUYING and SELLING and rest in Jesus according to the Commandment from sunset FRIDAY to sunset SATURDAY?

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Now please where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Whatever is done not out of faith is sin (Romans 14:23), and the law isn't done out of faith (Galatians 3:12).
Indeed. God's LAW is fulfilled in those who BELIEVE through LOVE

Romans 13
8,
Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law.
9, For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

This why Jesus says on these two commandments of LOVE hang all the LAW and the prophets (Matt 22:36-40) and "If you LOVE me KEEP my COMMANDMENTS" (John 14:15; 15:10)

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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If you don't understand theses verses below

Shows the difference between the Old covenant established on Mount Sinai (ten comandments and all established by Moses) & the New Covenant established by Jesus....,., you won't agree with anything I have to say on the topic. Just a heads up.

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Galatians 4

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the[d] two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Are you changing the subject of the OP now?

...............

Now please where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

................

Did you want to talk about the OLD AND NEW COVANANTS? This is a good idea because if you do not understand the OLD COVENANT how can you understand the NEW?

In your view what makes up the OLD COVEANNT and what was the PURPOSE of the different OLD COVENANT LAWS?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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The way I study is that I start with one scripture about The topic. Read it in context and try and understand what it means.1st time I read it I read it straight through and write down what it clearly says. I make notes about things I don't understand. Sometimes look at various translations of a certain verse for clarity. I call this reading for content.
2Nd time I read it. I look for historical clues. I may look at Bible commentary about the time it was believe to be written and what is happening to the Jewish people and the world at the time God inspired the author to write the words. I try and ask....what was God saying to the people of that time? I call this second reading: reading for Historical context.
The third time I read the passage. I pray and ask God how does this apply for today? What message or moral lesson can we learn from the story? What laws still apply to us? What faded away with the destruction of the Temple (abolishment of Old Covenant and establishment of the New Covenant)? I call the third reading: practical application for the modern age.

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I know folks want to post a string of scriptures to prove their point, but it's just not the way I study or discuss scriptures with folks and actually learn anything.

So if you want to, I wanted to examine a few scriptures about the BIBLICAL meaning of SABBATH and what God says about it....a few verses at a time. Reading the scriptures at least three times.
How does God say we should study his WORD?

Matt 18:3, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

We cannot understand God in our own ways..

1 Cor 1
19, For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20, Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21, For since in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22, For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23, But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24, But unto them who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25, Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Isaiah 55
8
, For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD.
9, For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Having lots of wise techniques for studying God's WORD will not help you to know God's WORD it may help you to know ABOUT God's WORD but so do the devils. Without God's Spirit to be your teacher you cannot know God's WORD because it is written;

1 Cor 2
12,
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14, But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

ONLY Jesus through his SPIRIT can teach you his WORD. I suggest you FOLLOW God's WORD.

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Now please where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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