Genesis ch 1&2 is misunderstood

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iamsoandso

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I missed this because it was not yet posted when I last read this page! It is very invenitve but IMPOSSIBLE to justify from the Hebrew text!

Gen 3:20
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
KJV

tells us that Eve was the mother of all living [humans]. Eve's name cha vah literally means Life Comes!

In addition the Hebrew grammar does not allow chapter 2 to be read as a separate event from verse 1!


Gen 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
KJV

These אֵ֣לֶּה In Hebrew, the noun that a pronoun refers to ALWAYS precedes the pronoun. Thus ALL THAT FOLLOWS is referred back to chapter 1. The fact that this pronoun is plural indicates that it looks back to multiple statements or events.

are the generations תוֺלְד֛וֺת usually means genealogies; but in this case it means history of the origin.

in the day בְּיׄוֺם can mean either in the day or in the time [duration unspecified]. Since it refers back to chapter 1, we know 6 days were xodusinvolved [ plus an optional gap between either verses 1 and 2, and/or verses 2 and 3].

I would think that the time frame being 14th,13th century bce that Job,Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus,Deuteronomy and Numbers to have been written in the earlier Proto-Sinatic script and not the more modern forms of Hebrew. I suppose that what we do have to go by today would be after the original(autograph) of these early books anyway though it made me wonder how we would even know the fine details of the literature of the Hebrew script from that time period.
 

RickyZ

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#82
Genesis chapters 1&2 are probably the most misunderstood topics in the Bible. The Hebrew words translated into English are similar but not exact. The only way to know the exact meaning of the Hebrew words is to have a copy of “The Complete Word Study Old Testament”.
The Hebrew word translated as “create” possesses the meaning of “bringing into existence” and usually created out of nothing.
The Hebrew word translated “made or make”dealt with the refinement of a previously created object. Not too different from evolution.
The Hebrew word translated as “formed” found in chapter 2 means to form or fashion much like a potter would do, and is not interchangeable with the other words create, made or make.
The words “create” and “made or make” alternate in chapter 1(sometimes in the same verse) showing that they are words with different meanings and are simply not interchangeable as most people believe.
We have all been taught that “Adam” and man of chapter 1 are the same person, but when you know the meaning of the Hebrew words and don’t ignore the chronology of the two chapters (man of chapter 1 was the last of creation and Adam of chapter 2 was the first of creation) and other events, the only logical conclusion is that they weren’t the same person.
In chapter 1, the word “earth” appears many times and is translated from the Hebrew word that means the whole earth – as opposed to heaven.
In chapter 2 that same word isn’t used, instead the word “ground” is used and it means something much different. The Hebrew word translated as ground means ground, a parcel of ground, or region or territory – quite different!
Ohhhhhh boy, this is gonna be fun.................

*grabs an oil drum-sized container of popcorn*
Typical CC.

A new guy shows up intent on showing us the error of our ways, followed by a veteran who mocks the new guy with 'wanna bet'?
 

tourist

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#83
Typical CC.

A new guy shows up intent on showing us the error of our ways, followed by a veteran who mocks the new guy with 'wanna bet'?
Yeah, a typical pattern. Nothing wrong with popcorn though with butter and lightly salted. Yeah, I know, there might be someone who will claim that this is bad for your health.