Should we give?

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mcubed

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People "love" to say G-d's love is unconditional. If I love you from afar do I have christian love? Think about is does G-d love people from afar?


People "love" to say tithing is not of the New Testament.... If it is true tithing is dead should we still help sexually exploited people, the displaced masses, well, and spread G-d's Word to the ends of the earth...

So I ask you ... if you do not tithe because of the New Testament does that mean we should not give?
 
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jsr1221

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Tithing isn't about money. There are other ways to tithe for those who are unable to make a living, such as giving their time. We've had hurricanes come to Florida the past 2 years. What happens if one destroys a church? Is there no more church body? I thought we are to be the church, not a building. If someone feels forced to "give", then that defeats the meaning of "God loves a cheerful giver".
 
posthuman

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In the same way that the Israelites gave for the construction of the tabernacle - so much that Moses had to tell them stop! It is enough!

These were free will offerings, not tithing under the command of a law.

Exodus 36:2-7
Then Moses summoned Bezalel and Oholiab and every skilled person to whom the LORD had given ability and who was willing to come and do the work. They received from Moses all the offerings the Israelites had brought to carry out the work of constructing the sanctuary. And the people continued to bring freewill offerings morning after morning. So all the skilled workers who were doing all the work on the sanctuary left what they were doing and said to Moses, "The people are bringing more than enough for doing the work the LORD commanded to be done." Then Moses gave an order and they sent this word throughout the camp: "No man or woman is to make anything else as an offering for the sanctuary." And so the people were restrained from bringing more, because what they already had was more than enough to do all the work.
 
Dino246

Dino246

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mcubed said:
People "love" to say G-d's love is unconditional. If I love you from afar do I have christian love? Think about is does G-d love people from afar?

People "love" to say tithing is not of the New Testament.... If it is true tithing is dead should we still help sexually exploited people, the displaced masses, well, and spread G-d's Word to the ends of the earth...

So I ask you ... if you do not tithe because of the New Testament does that mean we should not give?
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Tithing is giving the tenth (ordinal or fractional) from your crops, herds, or flocks at the tabernacle or temple for the provision of the Levites and the priests, according to the Law of Moses. There is now neither tabernacle nor temple, neither Levite nor priest, and we as Christians are not bound to the Law of Moses.

That said, the NT does commend giving to support Christian ministry and the poor, according to our ability, as we determine in our hearts, regularly, and sometimes sacrificially.

What exactly is the conflict?
 
posthuman

posthuman

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If it is good that we should give, and even more generously than what was formerly commanded, even though we are not under compulsion, not threatened by the punishment that accompanies a law. .

.. then what about such things as sabbath, where we are likewise not compelled by the letters of ordinances and law? How do we 'remember it' even more
 
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mcubed said:
People "love" to say G-d's love is unconditional. If I love you from afar do I have christian love? Think about is does G-d love people from afar?


People "love" to say tithing is not of the New Testament.... If it is true tithing is dead should we still help sexually exploited people, the displaced masses, well, and spread G-d's Word to the ends of the earth...

So I ask you ... if you do not tithe because of the New Testament does that mean we should not give?
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The New testament tells us to love others and to give what our heart leads us to give.. Meaning that giving must be from the heart not from the Law..

Once you make it a necessity that a person MUST give a certain percentage of their earnings then it goes from being something people do out of the kindness of their heart to a LAW that one MUST do to keep their salvation.. Thus we establish a Works salvation religion and throw away our salvation by the Grace of the LORD Jesus Christ...

It is very frustrating when people seem to only have two track minds with only two possible alternative of either you MUST do something or you don't do something anymore and they just cannot seem to be able to comprehend the position of It is good to do something but your eternal relationship with God is not dependent on you doing it.. So many people just cannot grasp the third way..
 
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"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and
cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith.
These you ought to have done, [without leaving the others undone].

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this,
To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction,
and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace,
with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
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Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and
prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of
heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
 
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