Crucifixion Day

[WebersHome]

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● Matt 12:40 . . As Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a
huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart
of the earth.

If we reckon Sunday to be the third day; then:

Saturday would've been the second day, and Friday the first.

Saturday night would've been the third night, Friday night the second, and
Thursday night the first.

The so-called last supper would've taken took place Wednesday night.

Jesus' interview with Pilate would've taken place Thursday morning and he
would've been executed that afternoon.

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[Bladerunner]

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● Matt 12:40 . . As Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a
huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart
of the earth.

If we reckon Sunday to be the third day; then:

Saturday would've been the second day, and Friday the first.

Saturday night would've been the third night, Friday night the second, and
Thursday night the first.

The so-called last supper would've taken took place Wednesday night.

Jesus' interview with Pilate would've taken place Thursday morning and he
would've been executed that afternoon.

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NO, Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Nisan 10th, Saturday (Sabbath and Palm Sunday) How can this be....We are told that Jesus was in Bethany on Friday (Nisan 9) prior to 6pm....This was about 15-20 miles away.

Because after 6pm on the Friday, a Sabbath began and ended on Saturday 6pm. Nisan 10

Saturday 6pm to Sunday 6pm Nisan 11 Day 1 after Palm Sabbath
Sunday 6pm to Monday 6pm Nisan 12 Day 2 after Palm Sabbath
Monday 6pm to Tuesday 6pm Nisan 13 Day 3 after Palm Sabbath
Tuesday 6pm to Wednesday 6pm Nisan 14 Day 4 after Palm Sabbath Passover (Crucifixion of the Christ)


NOTE: Jesus was buried prior to Wednesday at 6PM because at 6pm Feast of Unleaven Bread started and the 1st day was considered a Sabbath.

Wed 6pm to Thursday 6pm.Nisan 15 Day 1 after Crucifixion ..(Feast of Unleaven Bread).
Thursday 6pm to Friday 6pm Nisan 16 Day 2 after Crucifixion
Friday 6p to Sat 6pm Nisan 17 Day 3 after Crucifixion This was a Sabbath also (Note Two Sabbaths that week)
Sat 6pm to Sunday 6pm Nisan 18 Resurrection Day after 3 full days following Crucifixion (Feast of FirstFruits)

49+1 days from the Feast of First Fruits, (feast of Pentecost or Feast of Weeks) begin.

 

[WebersHome]

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I've participated on several Good Friday forums in the last 21 years and it
never fails that somebody comes along to muddy the waters with 24-hour
civil time and/or Nisan dating; thus making it virtually impossible for
curious visitors to make any sense out of the chronology of Christ's
crucifixion and resurrection.

It's not too difficult to appreciate just how serious this is relative to the
outside world. If they can be persuaded to mock Easter week's sequence of
events, then they can be just as easily persuaded that Jesus' resurrection
never happened.

As a result they will miss the opportunity to be exonerated per Rom 4:25. A
record of their sins will remain on the books, hanging over their heads like a
sword of Damocles. Out ahead, at the great white throne event depicted at
Rev 20:11-15, those books will be opened for review and used as an
indictment to justify sentencing them to a mode of death akin to a foundry
worker falling into a vat of molten metal.

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[WebersHome]

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Jesus and his men ate their Passover dinner the night of his arrest. (Matt
26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, and Luke 22:7-15)

The Jews ate their Passover after he was dead and buried. (John 13:1-2,
John 18:28-29, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31)

The Jews were somehow unaware that their religious calendar was tardy the
year that Christ was crucified. He, being a prophet in direct contact with
God, would of course have known the precise moment that Passover that
year was supposed to begin; which is no doubt at least one of the reasons
why Christ ate his own Passover before the Jews ate theirs.

Ironically, the Jews were careful to avoid going after Jesus during Passover.

● Matt 26:3-5 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people
assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and
they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the
feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.

Due to their religious calendar's error, the Jews inadvertently crucified Jesus
during the very season they wanted to avoid.

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[tanakh]

How I understand it is that the Jews counted part of a day as a whole day. This is something similar to a judicial system where if someone is found guilty and sentenced during say a morning that time is counted as a whole day not part of one.

 

[Noose]

Very simple.

The way they counted days during those days is not the way we count days today. Even during creation, there was morning and evening and that formed a day. The Jewish evening started at 3pm (evening sacrifice) and morning started at 3am (cock's crow).
During Jesus' time, there was also the Romans who had their own timing system- their morning started 6am and evening started 6pm- the reason crucifixion accounts in the gospels differ slightly in time.
If you keep the Jewish system in mind, then Friday can not be Friday as we know it and Sunday not Sunday as we know it.
Yes Jesus died on Friday and rose on sunday and when counted it comes to 3 days and 3 nights.

 

[WebersHome]

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How I understand it is that the Jews counted part of a day as a whole day.

The preponderance of evidence indicates that Christ's crucified dead body
returned to life on the third day rather than after the third day was
completely over and done with. In other words: he wasn't deceased three
full days.

Matt 17:22-23
Mark 9:31
Luke 9:22
Luke 24:46
Acts 10:40
1Cor 15:4

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[Noose]

Very simple.

The way they counted days during those days is not the way we count days today. Even during creation, there was morning and evening and that formed a day. The Jewish evening started at 3pm (evening sacrifice) and morning started at 3am (cock's crow).
During Jesus' time, there was also the Romans who had their own timing system- their morning started 6am and evening started 6pm- the reason crucifixion accounts in the gospels differ slightly in time.
If you keep the Jewish system in mind, then Friday can not be Friday as we know it and Sunday not Sunday as we know it.
Yes Jesus died on Friday and rose on sunday and when counted it comes to 3 days and 3 nights.

Sorry, the days were counted from evening first.

Gen 1:5God calledthe light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day......13There was evening and there was morning, a third day.


So, their Friday would start on our Thursday 3pm.

 

[Magenta]

 

[notuptome]

Well I'm not going to quibble over the exact time but I am going to remain in awe of the event.

We have the Son of God nailed to the cross the most spectacular event in all of time and eternity. An event so magnificent that all of heaven stooped to view it.

The perfect Lamb of God beaten and crucified for the sins of mankind. The redemption provided by God Himself is not diminished by those who worry about was it this day or perhaps another day. Jesus died was buried and rose again for us. Never lose sight of what He has done.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Magenta]

Sunset Monday to sunset Tuesday (Nisan 13)

Preparation of the room where the Messiah would observe "this Passover" with the apostles, Tuesday afternoon. ​

Matthew 26:18-19, Mark 14:13-16, Luke 22:9-13

Sunset Tuesday to sunset Wednesday (Nisan 14)

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The Messiah observed His Passover preparation (also known as "The Last Supper") with the apostles, Tuesday evening just after sunset. Matthew 26:20-29, Mark 14:17-25, Luke 22:14-38, John chapters 13-17

At about 10 p.m. Tuesday evening, they went out and entered the Garden of Gethsemane where the Messiah prayed and was then arrested by the mob, led by the traitor Judas Iscariot. Matthew 26:36-56, Mark 14:32-52, Luke 22:39-53, John 18:1-11

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The Messiah was taken to the house of the Caiaphas, the high priest, and was held there from about 11 p.m. Tuesday to dawn Wednesday. Throughout the night, Jesus was brutalized and mocked by the religious council and their thugs. ​

Matthew 26:57-75, Mark 14:53-72, Luke 22:54-65, John 18:12-27​

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At daybreak Wednesday, Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate who declared Him innocent of any wrongdoing. Pilate then sent Jesus to Herod Antipas, who happened to be in Jerusalem at the time. During that same time, Judas tried to return his thirty silver coins to the Sanhedrin and then hung himself. ​

Luke 22:66-71, Luke 23:1-7, Matthew 27:1-10​

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Herod Antipas, after listening to the accusations, also declared Jesus an innocent man, having done nothing deserving death. He then sent Him back to Pilate. ​

Luke 23:6-15​

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Pilate again tried to have Jesus released, but eventually gave in to the frenzied mob. He released the murderer Barabbas, and handed Jesus over to be crucified, knowing full well that Jesus of Nazareth was an innocent man, just as they all knew that He was innocent. ​

Luke 23:13-25
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The Roman military then took charge of Jesus; they sadistically tortured and beat Him nearly to death through the morning on Wednesday and then took Him out of the city for the Crucifixion. ​

Matthew 27:27-56, Mark 15:16-41, Luke 23:26-43, John 19:16-27

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The death of the Lamb of God, about 3 p.m. Wednesday. His burial in the tomb was just before sunset on Wednesday afternoon. ​

Matthew 27:45-61, Mark 15:33-47, Luke 23:44-56, John 19:28-42
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Sunset Wednesday to sunset Thursday (Nisan 15, First Day Of Unleavened Bread)

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Christ in the tomb night and day 1.

On the First Day of Passover/Unleavened Bread, the annual Sabbath that many mistakenly believe refers to the weekly Sabbath because it is also a "day after Preparation Day," Pilate had guards posted at the tomb. ​

Matthew 27:62-66

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Sunset Thursday to sunset Friday (Nisan 16, Second Day of Unleavened Bread)

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Christ in the tomb night and day 2 . Matthew 12:40
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Sunset Friday to sunset Saturday (Nisan 17, Third Day of Unleavened Bread)

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Christ in the tomb night and day 3; The Resurrection was just before sunset on Saturday afternoon, exactly three days and three nights after He died. Matthew 12:40​

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Sunset Saturday to sunset Sunday (Nisan 18, Fourth Day of Unleavened Bread)

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The empty (for nearly twelve hours, since just before sunset on Saturday) tomb was discovered by the women and the apostles long before sunrise on "Sunday" morning; the risen Christ spoke to Mary of Magdala. ​

Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-8, Luke 24:1-12, John 20:1-18 ​

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2012/20120404.htm​

 

[WebersHome]

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the days were counted from evening first.

Jesus Christ-- whom John 1:1-3 and John 1:14 testify is God --was a citizen
in the land of Israel 2,000 years ago; so I think that he, as both God and
citizen, would know better than anybody alive today how to count and/or
define days and nights back then.

According to Jesus Christ's understanding-- as both God and citizen --days
were when the sun is up and nights were when the sun is down.

"Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does
not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. But if anyone walks in
the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him." (John 11:9-10)

This world's light is of course the sun as per Gen 1:14-18. So then, "day" is
when the sun is up rather than when the sun is not up; i.e. day is daytime
and night is nighttime; viz: the three days and three nights of Matt 12:40
indicate three times when the sun was up, and three times when the sun
was down; i.e. relative to Christ's crucifixion and resurrection: day begins
with sunrise and night begins with sundown.

NOTE: Days divided into twelve equal periods of sunlight were regulated by
what's known as temporal hours; which vary in length in accordance with
the time of year. There are times of the year at Jerusalem's latitude when
this world's light consists of less than 12 normal hours of sun, and
sometimes more; but when Jesus was here; the official number of hours was
always twelve regardless.

I don't exactly know why the Jews of that era divided their days into twelve
equal periods of sunlight regardless of the seasons, but I suspect it was just
a convenient way to operate the government and conduct civil affairs;
including the Temple's activities (e.g. the daily morning and evening
sacrifices)

Anyway; I trust God's intelligence; and I believe in His son Jesus Christ. I
don't think either one of them are ever wrong about anything, especially
something as elementary as the properties of day and night.

"God called the light day, and the darkness He called night." (Gen 1:5)

In order to avoid confusion over the meanings of day and night relative to
Christ's crucifixion and resurrection, I highly recommend that you avoid
thinking in terms of creation's evening and morning criteria. I suggest that
you fall in line with Christ's definitions because who better than anyone else
is qualified to tell us how to understand the beginning and the ending of
days and nights as they were understood during the years when he himself
was living in Israel.

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[Noose]

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Jesus Christ-- whom John 1:1-3 and John 1:14 testify is God --was a citizen
in the land of Israel 2,000 years ago; so I think that he, as both God and
citizen, would know better than anybody alive today how to count and/or
define days and nights back then.

According to Jesus Christ's understanding-- as both God and citizen --days
were when the sun is up and nights were when the sun is down.

"Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does
not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. But if anyone walks in
the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him." (John 11:9-10)

This world's light is of course the sun as per Gen 1:14-18. So then, "day" is
when the sun is up rather than when the sun is not up; i.e. day is daytime
and night is nighttime; viz: the three days and three nights of Matt 12:40
indicate three times when the sun was up, and three times when the sun
was down; i.e. relative to Christ's crucifixion and resurrection: day begins
with sunrise and night begins with sundown.

NOTE: Days divided into twelve equal periods of sunlight were regulated by
what's known as temporal hours; which vary in length in accordance with
the time of year. There are times of the year at Jerusalem's latitude when
this world's light consists of less than 12 normal hours of sun, and
sometimes more; but when Jesus was here; the official number of hours was
always twelve regardless.

I don't exactly know why the Jews of that era divided their days into twelve
equal periods of sunlight regardless of the seasons, but I suspect it was just
a convenient way to operate the government and conduct civil affairs;
including the Temple's activities (e.g. the daily morning and evening
sacrifices)

Anyway; I trust God's intelligence; and I believe in His son Jesus Christ. I
don't think either one of them are ever wrong about anything, especially
something as elementary as the properties of day and night.

"God called the light day, and the darkness He called night." (Gen 1:5)

In order to avoid confusion over the meanings of day and night relative to
Christ's crucifixion and resurrection, I highly recommend that you avoid
thinking in terms of creation's evening and morning criteria. I suggest that
you fall in line with Christ's definitions because who better than anyone else
is qualified to tell us how to understand the beginning and the ending of
days and nights as they were understood during the years when he himself
was living in Israel.

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When i tell you there was 2 time systems in play during Jesus' time, you better listen to what i tell you.
The Jewish system - day started at 3am and the Roman system, day started at 6am. Look at these two crucifixion accounts and tell me- what time was Jesus crucified?

John 19:13When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. 14And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he said to the Jews, Behold your King! 15But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate said to them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
16Then delivered he him therefore to them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

Mark 15:25 It was the thirdhour when they crucified Him. 26And the charge inscribed against Him read: The King of the Jews.

 

[WebersHome]

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While discussing Good Friday with one of its defenders, my opponent
suggested that the darkness that took place while Jesus was nailed to the
cross was one of the three nights that he predicted at Matt 12:40.

Well; of course that doesn't work because Jesus was alive during those
hours of darkness on the cross. The three nights he predicted at Matt 12:40
were to take place while he was deceased and tucked away in the heart of
the earth.

Now when you think about it; Jesus' corpse was never in the heart of the
earth. It wasn't even in the earth's soil. His corpse was laid to rest on the
surface of the earth in a rock-hewn tomb.

Jesus compared his experience with Jonah's nautical adventure. A careful
examination of the finer points of the second chapter of his prophecy reveals
that although Jonah was alive while in the fish, he wasn't alive the whole
time. No, at some point in his ordeal, Jonah went to a place called sheol,
which he described as the bottoms of the mountains.

Well; even a school kid with an elementary knowledge of science knows that
the bottoms of the mountains aren't in the tummy of a fish; nor are the
bottoms of the mountains in the sea. No; the bottoms of the mountains are
many, many, miles below both the fish and the sea.

If what I'm saying here is true, then at some point in his adventure; Jonah
was quite dead.

"To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in
forever. But you brought my life up from the pit, O Yhvh my God. (Jonah
2:6)

The Hebrew word translated "pit" sometimes refers to putrefaction. In other
words "brought up my life" speaks of Jonah's resurrection.

According to Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31 Jesus too was spared putrefaction
by means of his resurrection.

According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However;
though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by
divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't simultaneous, which
readily indicates that once the body and the soul are separated, it becomes
possible to relocate the soul. In the cases of Jonah and Jesus; their souls
were transferred to the bottoms of the mountains.

This it all came to pass just as predicted: "as Jonah . . . so the Son of Man."

Both underwent death, both were buried, both spent some time in the
netherworld, and both their bodies were raised from the dead within the
space of three days and three nights.

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[Noose]

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While discussing Good Friday with one of its defenders, my opponent
suggested that the darkness that took place while Jesus was nailed to the
cross was one of the three nights that he predicted at Matt 12:40.

Well; of course that doesn't work because Jesus was alive during those
hours of darkness on the cross. The three nights he predicted at Matt 12:40
were to take place while he was deceased and tucked away in the heart of
the earth.

Now when you think about it; Jesus' corpse was never in the heart of the
earth. It wasn't even in the earth's soil. His corpse was laid to rest on the
surface of the earth in a rock-hewn tomb.

Jesus compared his experience with Jonah's nautical adventure. A careful
examination of the finer points of the second chapter of his prophecy reveals
that although Jonah was alive while in the fish, he wasn't alive the whole
time. No, at some point in his ordeal, Jonah went to a place called sheol,
which he described as the bottoms of the mountains.

Well; even a school kid with an elementary knowledge of science knows that
the bottoms of the mountains aren't in the tummy of a fish; nor are the
bottoms of the mountains in the sea. No; the bottoms of the mountains are
many, many, miles below both the fish and the sea.

If what I'm saying here is true, then at some point in his adventure; Jonah
was quite dead.

"To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in
forever. But you brought my life up from the pit, O Yhvh my God. (Jonah
2:6)

The Hebrew word translated "pit" sometimes refers to putrefaction. In other
words "brought up my life" speaks of Jonah's resurrection.

According to Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31 Jesus too was spared putrefaction
by means of his resurrection.

According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However;
though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by
divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't simultaneous, which
readily indicates that once the body and the soul are separated, it becomes
possible to relocate the soul. In the cases of Jonah and Jesus; their souls
were transferred to the bottoms of the mountains.

This it all came to pass just as predicted: "as Jonah . . . so the Son of Man."

Both underwent death, both were buried, both spent some time in the
netherworld, and both their bodies were raised from the dead within the
space of three days and three nights.

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If you'll stop evading questions you'll do fine. From the two accounts of crucifixion above (Mark & John) what time was Jesus crucified?
I'd like to know your understanding so that we can move on.

 

[Enoch987]

WeberHome, I have a theory that John counted 18 days from the anniversary of Noah leaving the Ark on the 27th day of the 2nd month until Passover thus the 6 days before Passover when Jesus is anointed in John 12. compare to two days before Passover in Matthew and Mark which counts 14 days from the first day of the 3rd month. What do you think?

 

[WebersHome]

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I have a theory that John counted 18 days from the anniversary of Noah
leaving the Ark on the 27th day of the 2nd month, yada, yada, yada . . What
do you think?

All months and days in the book of Genesis related to the Flood are
referenced to waypoints in Noah's life rather than the months and days of a
calendar. For example:

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the
seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the
great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." (Gen 7:11)

Let's say, arbitrarily, that Noah was born in August. Then the second month
would have been September. If he was born in March, then the second month
would have been April.

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[WebersHome]

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what time was Jesus crucified?

You might try Yahoo or Google. That question is common all around internet.

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[Noose]

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You might try Yahoo or Google. That question is common all around internet.

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Yes it is very common, no need for me to try anymore.

 

[Bladerunner]

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Jesus and his men ate their Passover dinner the night of his arrest. (Matt
26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, and Luke 22:7-15)

The Jews ate their Passover after he was dead and buried. (John 13:1-2,
John 18:28-29, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31)

The Jews were somehow unaware that their religious calendar was tardy the
year that Christ was crucified. He, being a prophet in direct contact with
God, would of course have known the precise moment that Passover that
year was supposed to begin; which is no doubt at least one of the reasons
why Christ ate his own Passover before the Jews ate theirs.

Ironically, the Jews were careful to avoid going after Jesus during Passover.

● Matt 26:3-5 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people
assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and
they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the
feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.

Due to their religious calendar's error, the Jews inadvertently crucified Jesus
during the very season they wanted to avoid.

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Whether the Jews ate Passover after Jesus died and was buried...The fact remains that Jesus was crucified on the very Day of Passover during Moses' time. If you cannot see that, so be it.....but History does not lie and as a high Point,,,Neither does GOD!