Poll: On what day of the week was Jesus Crucified?

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On What Day of the Week Was Jesus Crucified?


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Grandpa

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What you are not understanding, is that Wednesday evening at 6 pm is the start of Thursday. Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, He died at 3pm Wednesday. 3 hours later at 6 PM, Thursday started, this Thursday was a High Sabbath.

The first day of the week, started Saturday evening at 6 PM. Jesus Rose from the Grave sometime between 6 PM and Midnight, which is the first day of the week.

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DiscipleDave
All that is fine.

Except that would make it 4 nights and 4 days in the grave.

In order for it to be 3 days and 3 nights the crucifixion would have had to happen on Thursday.

Thursday - 1 day and 1 night
Friday - 1 day and 1 night
Saturday - 1 day and 1 night

For a total of 3 days and 3 nights.
 
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However we do know that Scriptures are TRUE. Scriptures teach that Jesus Christ rose on the first day of the week. Scriptures also teach that Jesus was in the heart of the Earth three days and three nights. These things are TRUE, and are most certainly Scriptural.

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DiscipleDave
True indeed but there is one problem, they were not using the Julian calendar, neither should modern man try and line up the Julian with the Hebrew calendar an't going to happen.
 
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The Biblical calendar has had two minor adjustments which have been well documented.

The Julian and Gregorian calendars have had several adjustments which are also well documented. Because the Biblical calendar is internally adjusted to not allow it to be more than a day out of sync with the solar calendar and that day is adjusted out every 68 years; the fluctuations in time are compensated for, with respect to determining the Gregorian day of the week of any given Biblical date.
The Julian calendar has just recently got a make over it is now ahead of the gregorian as far as being accurate. I haven't heard of the biblical calendar being internally adjusted what do mean by internally,,, do you mean it self adjusts itself?
 
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No calendar in the world nor in bible is 100% accurate it can't be, God didn't create our solar system to be perfect it is perfectly imperfect. March forward not backwards.
 

1ofthem

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He lived, he was crucified and died, he rose again, and now he lives for evermore...just saying :)
 

DiscipleDave

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Originally Posted by DiscipleDave


What you are not understanding, is that Wednesday evening at 6 pm is the start of Thursday. Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, He died at 3pm Wednesday. 3 hours later at 6 PM, Thursday started, this Thursday was a High Sabbath.

The first day of the week, started Saturday evening at 6 PM. Jesus Rose from the Grave sometime between 6 PM and Midnight, which is the first day of the week.

All that is fine.

Except that would make it 4 nights and 4 days in the grave.

In order for it to be 3 days and 3 nights the crucifixion would have had to happen on Thursday.

Thursday - 1 day and 1 night
Friday - 1 day and 1 night
Saturday - 1 day and 1 night

For a total of 3 days and 3 nights.
Please look at the following pictures to see what i am saying above.

Timeline-of-Jesus-Burial_WEB.jpg
 

rstrats

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DiscipleDave,

What system are you using where the daytime of a calendar day comes before the night time?
 

Studyman

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All that is fine.

Except that would make it 4 nights and 4 days in the grave.

In order for it to be 3 days and 3 nights the crucifixion would have had to happen on Thursday.

Thursday - 1 day and 1 night
Friday - 1 day and 1 night
Saturday - 1 day and 1 night

For a total of 3 days and 3 nights.
If he was placed in the Grave just before sun down that doesn't fit the account.

Wed. night 1 night.

Thursday 2 nights

Friday 3 nights.

We know He was already risen before Mary got the grave on Sat. Night just after sundown "While it was yet dark. Sunday begins at sundown on Sat. Night. He was already gone on all accounts.

3 days Thur. Fri. Sat. 3 nights Wed, Thur. Fri. 2 Sabbaths Thursday (First Day of unleavened bread) Saturday, (Weekly Sabbath.

Shamah has a very good study on this, I'm sure he would give it to anyone who asks.
 

Studyman

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Please look at the following pictures to see what i am saying above.

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DD,

If He was placed in the grave just before 6 PM on Wednesday, which I believe, wouldn't He have risen just before 6PM on the 3rd day? Any longer and it would be 4 days, YES?

In all accounts when Mary went to the grave after Sabbath, sundown Saturday night, The Stone was rolled away and He was already gone.

Why do you say He waited until after the 3rd day, after 6 PM?
 

Grandpa

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If he was placed in the Grave just before sun down that doesn't fit the account.

Wed. night 1 night.

Thursday 2 nights

Friday 3 nights.

We know He was already risen before Mary got the grave on Sat. Night just after sundown "While it was yet dark. Sunday begins at sundown on Sat. Night. He was already gone on all accounts.

3 days Thur. Fri. Sat. 3 nights Wed, Thur. Fri. 2 Sabbaths Thursday (First Day of unleavened bread) Saturday, (Weekly Sabbath.

Shamah has a very good study on this, I'm sure he would give it to anyone who asks.
So you are saying that the Lord Jesus rose on Saturday during the day.

That is NOT what the bible says.

Matthew 28:1-7
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.


The keepers were there on Saturday. The earthquake and the angel of the Lord didn't show up until the end of the Sabbath. As it began to dawn. That is sunday.

That's why Christians celebrate Resurrection Day on Sunday. Because that's the day the Lord Rose.


Now, do legalists and judaizers have an agenda to try and show that the Lord Jesus Christ rose on the saturday sabbath instead of sunday?

I would certainly think so.
 

Studyman

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So you are saying that the Lord Jesus rose on Saturday during the day.

That is NOT what the bible says.

Matthew 28:1-7
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

So you are saying Mary saw the Angel roll the stone away, and saw Jesus walk out of the grave?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
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[/SUP]And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
How is it He was gone before she came there if you preach she watched the angel roll the stone away from the grave?

The keepers were there on Saturday. The earthquake and the angel of the Lord didn't show up until the end of the Sabbath. As it began to dawn. That is sunday.
Why was Jesus already gone, already risen as Sunday began to dawn?

That's why Christians celebrate Resurrection Day on Sunday. Because that's the day the Lord Rose.
I think you will find this religious traditions started with the Catholic church, Constantine actually is service to the Venerable Day of the Sun.


Now, do legalists and judaizers have an agenda to try and show that the Lord Jesus Christ rose on the saturday sabbath instead of sunday?

I would certainly think so.
I would ask if you have an agenda given He was already gone by the time Mary got there, and it is ancient Catholic tradition to honor the Venerable Day of the Sun.

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.

What? Mary didn't watch the stone rolled away? He was already gone? Why didn't you tell us that?

Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

Earthquake had already happened, stone was already rolled away, He was already gone. Didn't you think it was important to mention these Biblical facts?

John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher.
Earthquake had already happened, stone was rolled away, He was already gone.

Why would you purposely omit this very relevant fact in all 4 gospels? They came to the grave right after Sabbath, while it was yet dark, and He was already gone.

Do you have an agenda?
 

Shamah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 4:24, "Yah is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By all 4 accounts He had already Resurrected before the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day/ Sunday[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:1-6, "”But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]it was dawning into day one of the week”...“He is not here, for He was raised[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]very early on day one of the week”...“He was raised – He is not here[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]on day one of the week, at early dawn”...“they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]on the first day of the week”...“the stone had been removed from the tomb[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-8, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us? And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him. And go, say to His taught ones, and Kĕpha, that He is going before you into Galil. You shall see Him there as He said to you. And they went out and fled from the tomb, and were trembling and bewildered. And they spoke to no one, for they were afraid."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]As we see here “when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week,.. they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here!”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day/Sunday morning Yahshua/Jesus was already risen and gone, then why does Mark say “Jesus rose early on the first day of the week” Mark 16:1-8 just said He was already resurrected and gone by then:[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:9[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New International Version[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New Living Translation[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]After Jesus rose from the dead early on Sunday morning, the first person who saw him was Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom he had cast out seven demons.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]English Standard Version[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now when he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]King James Bible[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Why? Because verses Mark 16:9–20 are not included in some of the earliest surviving Greek copies of Mark and have significant stylistic differences from the rest of Mark’s Gospel.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Added verse Mark 16:9, "And having risen early on the first day of the week He appeared first to Miryam from Maḡdala, from whom He had cast out seven demons.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]If v9-20 are authentic then the other 3 Gospels have it wonrg, if v9-20 are added all Gospels are in unity.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers; (Mark 16:9-20) Now when Jesus was risen early.—See Notes on Matthew 28:16-20. The history of the verses that follow is in every way remarkable. They are not found in two of the oldest MSS.—the Sinaitic and the Vatican—are marked as doubtful in many others, and are wanting in some versions. In some of these (e.g., in the Vatican MS.) there is a blank space left between Mark 16:8 and the beginning of St. Luke, as though the writer had suspended his work and waited for materials. The absence was noticed by Jerome, who says that “nearly all the Greek texts omit them.” Eusebius states the same fact as true of “the correct MSS.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Scofield Reference Notes, 1917 Edition: The passage from verse 9 to the end is not found in the two most ancient manuscripts, the Sinaitic and Vatican, and others have it with partial omissions and variations. But it is quoted by Irenaeus and Hippolytus in the second or third century. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]appeared (See Scofield "Matthew 28:9") [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]However lets for sake of debate say that these verses should be inclued, in the original language there are no commas, and depending on where the comma is placed, the meaning of the verse changes:[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This placement of the comma has Jesus rising and then on Sunday the women come to see Him, this would not be in contradiction to Mark 16:1-8 and the other 4 gospels:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When Jesus rose, early on the first day of the week he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This placement of the comma has Jesus rising on Sunday and also the women come to see Him, this would be in contradiction to Mark 16:1-8 and the other 4 gospels:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif](See Mark 16:9 Commentaries located at the end of this study)[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What we have here is added verses, that were not in the original manuscripts and that contradict not only the other 3 gospels but Mark 16:1-8. Do we then throw our hands up in the air and give up, lose faith, or do we seek the truth? I say let us seek truth, let us search the Scriptures in their fullness and find out what is the truth that YHWH left us?[/FONT]
 

Adstar

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Please look at the following pictures to see what i am saying above.

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Your picture is wrong because it does not follow the Biblical day but the roman day.. The Biblical day starts at sunset.. Not at sunrise.. Jesus was not put into the tomb near midnight.. He was put in to the tomb just before sunset wednesday. At sunset the high sabbath called the first day of unleavened bread started.. Jesus had to be put into the earth before this day started..
 

Chester

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Time to bring out this poll again - there is another thread discussing this, but if you have not voted on this poll, let me know what your opinion is: so far Wed. is the majority winner . . . not that what we decide has anything to do about what actually happened . . . LOL!