Standing on the rock vs adding the will of God

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know1

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I should think everyone would know that the word of God IS the rock of our salvation and the firm foundation upon which we are to stand.
As for salvation, what is the rock on which we stand or the foundation we are to built upon?

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For most, John 3:16 would suffice.
That word/scripture is unshakable and immovable.... until you start adding to it.
Such as to make it the "whole council of God", but no one questions what the will of God is concerning salvation, because it is written that God desires all to come to a saving knowledge of Christ, right?
And let's not forget that Jesus came to take away the sins of the world. That would encompass everyone that ever lived and beyond.
And yet only about 2 and 1/2 % of the population on earth go to heaven, while the rest don't.
So much for the will of God being done on earth.
So much for standing on the rock of our salvation.
When we ADD to scripture what is not written (not talking about interpreting it in context), it is like adding sand on or over bedrock, until the sand is too deep to lay you foundation on that rock.
Question.
Do we need to add any other verse of scripture to the above, to make it the truth, or is it the truth as is?
Does anyone question if it is God's will to save someone? Of course not, but not all are saved who confess Jesus as the Messiah.
So we don't need to add to the above verse, right?
So why do many of you add to the verses that don't apply to salvation such as those that promise healing or answered prayers?
For example, in Mk 11:24, the word of God states that God will give us "what soever ye [we] desire", and what do many add to this awesome promises?
They say, "yes God will give you whatsoever you desire if it is His desire and will for you to have it, then it will be given to you. And that is what many say the verse is talking about, when none of that is even written.
How can it be the truth if you have to keep adding more conditions to the promises of God, that are NOT WRITTEN?
You do to these verses what you refuse to do with the verses concerning salvation. You add, "if it be the will of God" to it.
And in so doing, you not only pervert and twist God's truth by adding a truth from another promise, to make it a lie, but you have effectively taken away the foundation or the solid rock in which one needs to stand/believe on to get their healing or answered prayers. You make the promises of God, iffy.
If your foundation shakes with the natural news that comes your way, then how long do you expect you house to stand in the storm? Or why do you think so many fall away from believing in healing, or answered prayers, even calling sickness a blessing of God? Because many of you have changed the truth of God's word by adding "the will of God" to it, and have taken away the surety or certainty of the promise.
This is heresy and demonic, and yet so many of you do this very thing and at the same time vilify and condemn me for standing up for what is written.
If you don't know what the will of God is, HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE WITH ANY CERTAINTY, OR HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN GOD to give you what you ask for, with a big "IF" slapped in the middle of God's PROMISE to THOSE WHO BELIEVE?
I tell you, you cannot!!! And you will not be able to believe, regardless of what you say, and that is one reason why so many fail to receive. Thinking they believe when they don't know what God will do because they were taught to wait and see what God will do. Even saying, "You never know what God's going to do".
If you believe what is written without adding to it, you would!!!
The word "IF" casts doubt, uncertainty, wonderment, even confusion, as it is a conditional particle. If it is not written, then don't add it to the promise of God's word.
Do you think Jesus, who spoke the words of God the Father, Who Himself is holy, and cannot lie but must speak the truth by saying, "Verily verily or Truly truly", messed up the truth or missed something, that you would think needs your input added to it to make it MORE TRUTHFUL?
Why can't we stop interpreting scripture according to our experiences, testimonies, natural circumstances and situations, biases, church doctrines, and the like and just accept the truth of what is written as is?
Is it also too painful for you to admit that you (we) are at fault for failing to receive and not God or His promises?
God's word is good as is, and we should stop trying to make His word say something it doesn't by adding our reality or real world facts/history to it.
Not everything is too good to be true, and the grace of God does NOT stop at salvation.
 

graceNpeace

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I should think everyone would know that the word of God IS the rock of our salvation and the firm foundation upon which we are to stand.
As for salvation, what is the rock on which we stand or the foundation we are to built upon?

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For most, John 3:16 would suffice.
That word/scripture is unshakable and immovable.... until you start adding to it.
Such as to make it the "whole council of God", but no one questions what the will of God is concerning salvation, because it is written that God desires all to come to a saving knowledge of Christ, right?
And let's not forget that Jesus came to take away the sins of the world. That would encompass everyone that ever lived and beyond.
And yet only about 2 and 1/2 % of the population on earth go to heaven, while the rest don't.
So much for the will of God being done on earth.
So much for standing on the rock of our salvation.
When we ADD to scripture what is not written (not talking about interpreting it in context), it is like adding sand on or over bedrock, until the sand is too deep to lay you foundation on that rock.
Question.
Do we need to add any other verse of scripture to the above, to make it the truth, or is it the truth as is?
Does anyone question if it is God's will to save someone? Of course not, but not all are saved who confess Jesus as the Messiah.
So we don't need to add to the above verse, right?
So why do many of you add to the verses that don't apply to salvation such as those that promise healing or answered prayers?
For example, in Mk 11:24, the word of God states that God will give us "what soever ye [we] desire", and what do many add to this awesome promises?
They say, "yes God will give you whatsoever you desire if it is His desire and will for you to have it, then it will be given to you. And that is what many say the verse is talking about, when none of that is even written.
How can it be the truth if you have to keep adding more conditions to the promises of God, that are NOT WRITTEN?
You do to these verses what you refuse to do with the verses concerning salvation. You add, "if it be the will of God" to it.
And in so doing, you not only pervert and twist God's truth by adding a truth from another promise, to make it a lie, but you have effectively taken away the foundation or the solid rock in which one needs to stand/believe on to get their healing or answered prayers. You make the promises of God, iffy.
If your foundation shakes with the natural news that comes your way, then how long do you expect you house to stand in the storm? Or why do you think so many fall away from believing in healing, or answered prayers, even calling sickness a blessing of God? Because many of you have changed the truth of God's word by adding "the will of God" to it, and have taken away the surety or certainty of the promise.
This is heresy and demonic, and yet so many of you do this very thing and at the same time vilify and condemn me for standing up for what is written.
If you don't know what the will of God is, HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE WITH ANY CERTAINTY, OR HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN GOD to give you what you ask for, with a big "IF" slapped in the middle of God's PROMISE to THOSE WHO BELIEVE?
I tell you, you cannot!!! And you will not be able to believe, regardless of what you say, and that is one reason why so many fail to receive. Thinking they believe when they don't know what God will do because they were taught to wait and see what God will do. Even saying, "You never know what God's going to do".
If you believe what is written without adding to it, you would!!!
The word "IF" casts doubt, uncertainty, wonderment, even confusion, as it is a conditional particle. If it is not written, then don't add it to the promise of God's word.
Do you think Jesus, who spoke the words of God the Father, Who Himself is holy, and cannot lie but must speak the truth by saying, "Verily verily or Truly truly", messed up the truth or missed something, that you would think needs your input added to it to make it MORE TRUTHFUL?
Why can't we stop interpreting scripture according to our experiences, testimonies, natural circumstances and situations, biases, church doctrines, and the like and just accept the truth of what is written as is?
Is it also too painful for you to admit that you (we) are at fault for failing to receive and not God or His promises?
God's word is good as is, and we should stop trying to make His word say something it doesn't by adding our reality or real world facts/history to it.
Not everything is too good to be true, and the grace of God does NOT stop at salvation.
I am sure this is a great post, and probably of value to everyone who reads it, but....

Guess what, no one will read it because is a great impenetrable wall of text!

Try paragraphs and formatting....
Use whitespace...
 

know1

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I am sure this is a great post, and probably of value to everyone who reads it, but....

Guess what, no one will read it because is a great impenetrable wall of text!

Try paragraphs and formatting....
Use whitespace...
Sounds like I struck a nerve with you and hit the nail on the head.
Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both.
You did both, so I will simplify it for you.



Do you add anything to the word of God or not?



If you do, then you are perverting the truth.



White space. Short and simple.
 

Blain

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Ok so then taking for instance the verse you gave about him giving us the desires of our heart at face value we should get whatever we ask for then? Did you ever notice that Jesus always asked that the fathers will be done in his prayers? This is because he was showing an example, often times we think we know what we want and we think we know what we should receive but God gives us what we need and gives it on his accord. He is not a genie and it is not adding to the word of God to take into consideration what God's will is in the matter even if it isn't what we asked for in fact there is great wisdom in it.

If you asked God for a million dollars then since he promised to give you whatever your heart desires then will you receive it without any doubt at all? Did you ever consider that perhaps your asking for the wrong reasons?
 

graceNpeace

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Sounds like I struck a nerve with you and hit the nail on the head.
Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both.
You did both, so I will simplify it for you.



Do you add anything to the word of God or not?



If you do, then you are perverting the truth.



White space. Short and simple.
Such aggression...
And then making unwarranted accusations and inferences...
Wow!

Apparently, I am numbered with these, "Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both."

I certainly did not ignore what you wrote, although I am not sure whether to accept what you wrote or not, precisely because I found it unreadable!

The advice I gave in good faith - you have misinterpreted this apparently as a dismissal of what you wrote, but that would be wrong!

If you want to write substantial posts then make them readable or just expect people to ignore them!
 

Blain

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Such aggression...
And then making unwarranted accusations and inferences...
Wow!

Apparently, I am numbered with these, "Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both."

I certainly did not ignore what you wrote, although I am not sure whether to accept what you wrote or not, precisely because I found it unreadable!

The advice I gave in good faith - you have misinterpreted this apparently as a dismissal of what you wrote, but that would be wrong!

If you want to write substantial posts then make them readable or just expect people to ignore them!
Don't worry about it it hurt my eyes reading it and i had to do it in small doses
 
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Sounds like I struck a nerve with you and hit the nail on the head.
Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both.
You did both, so I will simplify it for you.



Do you add anything to the word of God or not?



If you do, then you are perverting the truth.



White space. Short and simple.
Actually, I was thinking something similar to what Grace wrote, but now that I see it's all about the great you, and not God, I've changed my mind. I have a firm handle on arrogance already, so don't need you to teach me more about it.
 
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" Of course not, but not all are saved who confess Jesus as the Messiah. "

Can you give me an example of a person who confesses Jesus as Messiah would not be saved.
 

mailmandan

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Grace is the unmerited favor of God. It is where God shows us mercy, kindness, and patience instead of the judgment that we deserve for sinning against Him. God's grace cannot be earned by our actions or sincerity. Grace is based on the character of God and not on our sincerity, performance, or ability to keep the law. Otherwise, grace would not be grace.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Romans 11:6, "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."

Galatians 2:21, "I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died in vain."

2 Timothy 1:9, "who has saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity."

God's grace does not stop there and operates sovereignly in the lives of believers.

1 Corinthians 15:10 - But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me.

2 Corinthians 1:12 - For our proud confidence is this: the testimony of our conscience, that in holiness and godly sincerity, not in fleshly wisdom but in the grace of God, we have conducted ourselves in the world, and especially toward you.

2 Corinthians 12:9 - And He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness." Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

Titus 2:11 - the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, (yet that does not mean that all men will accept God's gift of eternal life through faith) 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.
 

Dino246

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I should think everyone would know that the word of God IS the rock of our salvation and the firm foundation upon which we are to stand.
As for salvation, what is the rock on which we stand or the foundation we are to built upon?
...Do we need to add any other verse of scripture to the above, to make it the truth, or is it the truth as is?
...And in so doing, you not only pervert and twist God's truth by adding a truth from another promise, to make it a lie, but you have effectively taken away the foundation or the solid rock in which one needs to stand/believe on to get their healing or answered prayers.
Psalm 119:160 "The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting." (NASB)

While any verse by itself is "scripture" and therefore "truth", the whole truth is found in the whole counsel of God. Taking any verse by itself, out of context, and expecting it to be adequate for understanding the whole truth, is weak at best and foolish at worst. You note that context is important, and then undermine it. The idea that adding other verses adds sand to the foundation of God's word is ridiculous.

The truth of God's word is discovered/learned by reading and understanding the whole Bible, not just one verse.
 

mailmandan

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There is a difference between God's will for us to BECOME saved:

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

And God's will for us AFTER we have been saved through faith:

1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
 

know1

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Such aggression...
And then making unwarranted accusations and inferences...
Wow!

Apparently, I am numbered with these, "Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both."

I certainly did not ignore what you wrote, although I am not sure whether to accept what you wrote or not, precisely because I found it unreadable!

The advice I gave in good faith - you have misinterpreted this apparently as a dismissal of what you wrote, but that would be wrong!

If you want to write substantial posts then make them readable or just expect people to ignore them!
If what you say is true, then I apologize for misinterpreting the intent of your post and replying in kind.
At the same time, I still find your first post somewhat critically nitpicking, and what looks like a trivial, strain at a gnat, fault finding put down. Though small that it is, it still comes across that way.
No, my grammar and sentence structure is not the greatest, and I'm still working on my delivery, but for me at this point in my life, I'm not interested in catering to the desires of others.

And I fail to see how adding a space in between sentences, like I just did to follow your example, makes my posts readable. Like they weren't before? (No more spacing after this.)

You certainly didn't have a problem reading or understanding my second post addressed to you specifically.
By-the-way, you did the same with my post as I did with yours. You misinterpreted what was written.
What I wrote was not aggression, it was only a callous indifferent response. That was how I saw yours.
Could be wrong, but like I said, that is how it came across.
Anyway, sorry for the offense, and no hard feelings on my part.
 

Bladerunner

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Sounds like I struck a nerve with you and hit the nail on the head.
Those who cannot accept the truth either ignore what I write entirely, divert from the subject of discussion, or both.
You did both, so I will simplify it for you.



Do you add anything to the word of God or not?



If you do, then you are perverting the truth.



White space. Short and simple.
That is better, I do not even attempt to read something like you posted...We all know the scripture and would take the notation of scripture for the verses themselves when not appropriate.
 

Blain

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If what you say is true, then I apologize for misinterpreting the intent of your post and replying in kind.
At the same time, I still find your first post somewhat critically nitpicking, and what looks like a trivial, strain at a gnat, fault finding put down. Though small that it is, it still comes across that way.
No, my grammar and sentence structure is not the greatest, and I'm still working on my delivery, but for me at this point in my life, I'm not interested in catering to the desires of others.

And I fail to see how adding a space in between sentences, like I just did to follow your example, makes my posts readable. Like they weren't before? (No more spacing after this.)

You certainly didn't have a problem reading or understanding my second post addressed to you specifically.
By-the-way, you did the same with my post as I did with yours. You misinterpreted what was written.
What I wrote was not aggression, it was only a callous indifferent response. That was how I saw yours.
Could be wrong, but like I said, that is how it came across.
Anyway, sorry for the offense, and no hard feelings on my part.
It makes it easier to read if you put spaces in your sentences because reading a wall of words it not only bad for your eyes but it hurts them especially for those who have to wear glasses and you have remember we are looking at a screen and reading a wall of words makes our pupils have to focus that much harder making our eyes go under more stress and start to ache
 

know1

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Ok so then taking for instance the verse you gave about him giving us the desires of our heart at face value we should get whatever we ask for then?
Call me simple if you like, but isn't that what is written?
"What things soever ye desire..."
And how does Jesus start the promise in verse 23?
"For verily I say unto you..."
(GNB) "I assure you"
(GW) "I can guarantee this truth"
(HRB) "For truly I say to you"
(HNC-NT) "I am telling you the truth"

Tell me please how verse 24 can be a truth or true statement if the will of God has to be added to it to make it the truth or the whole truth or the whole council of God?
Because what everyone is saying is that it is a lie until you add or factor in the will of God in that scripture.
I say that because if that promise is dependent on the will of God, then it is a lie as is.
My desire no longer plays a role in the promise, as it is written. If God promised to give me my desires, without telling me that the said promise is dependent on His will, then it is a half truth.
That is the very thing many people do in the court of law to get away with a lie.
They fail to tell the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
If what you and others are saying is true, then no one can have faith in any of the promises of God because you don't know what God will do.
The whole argument is nonsensical.
You CANNOT have faith if you don't know what God's will is or what He will do. The promise then because a wishing pool. Not know what the will of God is, or what He will do, because you don't know what else is missing from the so called truth or promises in His word.
The whole scenario because sand in a pool of water, or quick sand. There is nothing solid, firm, certain, sure, immovable, unwavering, unshakable, and the like, for you to sand on.
What you are left with is to wonder, hope, and wish, but never knowing what will happen or what God will do.
There is NO FAITH in that. ABSOLUTELY NONE.
And that is not the only scripture that promises to give you what you desire.

Joh 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Again, only our will is mentioned in the above promise.
Do you suppose it might be God's will, to give those who abide in Him and His word in them, what they will or want?
If you believe what is written instead of adding to it, you can then have faith in God to do what you ask for.
Once you add condition that are not listed here, then you can no longer rely on God to watch over and hasten to perform His word.


Did you ever notice that Jesus always asked that the fathers will be done in his prayers?
I'm not suggesting otherwise.
At the same time, did you notice that Jesus ALWAYS gave EVERY person what they asked for? Whatever it was they asked Jesus to do, that is what He did for them.
If they asked Him to lay His hand on someone, He would lay His hand on them, or if they asked for Him to speak a word, He would speak a word of faith, and if they asked Him to come with them, He would go with them.
God is indeed sovereign, and He goes about doing His own will, but He also did according to the faith of those who asked Him.
In other words, He gave them their Hearts desire.


This is because he was showing an example, often times we think we know what we want and we think we know what we should receive but God gives us what we need and gives it on his accord.
Sir, what does that have to do with what is written?
You just digressed from the word of God and started adding what is not written in the promise, and thereby making it void, even senseless.
The carnal mind is against God and His ways, and it cannot accept the same, as it is written in Romans 8.
If you know that you are asking for something bad or wrong, then you will not have any confidence that God will give you what you ask for in the first place.
But if you heart is right before God, and you ask for something you know is good, like healing for instance, then why would God deny you your request?
Is healing of the devil? Would it be a bad thing? Isn't it God's will for us to be healthy and whole in heaven? Didn't Jesus come to destroy the works of the devil? Are we not told to resist the devil, and he shall flee?
Then why do we have to wonder what God's will is concerning healing, at the very least.
I know that the real world does not reflect what is written in most Christian's lives, but we shouldn't alter what is written just to make it agree with our own circumstances or that of others.


He is not a genie and it is not adding to the word of God to take into consideration what God's will is in the matter even if it isn't what we asked for in fact there is great wisdom in it.
If you believe what is written, AS IS, then you would already know what the will of God is before you prayed.
Jesus said to "seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and His righteousness...", and so we should. Why then do you use the end result of a situation to determine what the will of God is or was, in any particular circumstance?
You still don't know but assume that God said no, because you didn't get your healing in the first few hours, days, weeks or longer.
When are we ever held accountable for failing to receive?



If you asked God for a million dollars then since he promised to give you whatever your heart desires then will you receive it without any doubt at all? Did you ever consider that perhaps your asking for the wrong reasons?
Even in the old testament, God gave Israel what they asked for, but when they asked with evil intent, it always came with a curse.
I would suggest every man examine the intent of his heart before he ask.
Again it is written, ALL the promises in Christ Jesus are yeah and amen. Not some, or if it be the will of God, but all.
 

know1

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" Of course not, but not all are saved who confess Jesus as the Messiah. "

Can you give me an example of a person who confesses Jesus as Messiah would not be saved.
Can you give me any proof that they were saved when they confessed Jesus as the Messiah?
 

nddreamer

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Forgive my ignorance, but where in the Bible is it written that only 2 1/2% of all people who ever lived will go to heaven and the rest will not? Are these the LORD'S words or yours?
 

know1

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Psalm 119:160 "The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting." (NASB)

While any verse by itself is "scripture" and therefore "truth", the whole truth is found in the whole counsel of God. Taking any verse by itself, out of context, and expecting it to be adequate for understanding the whole truth, is weak at best and foolish at worst. You note that context is important, and then undermine it. The idea that adding other verses adds sand to the foundation of God's word is ridiculous.

The truth of God's word is discovered/learned by reading and understanding the whole Bible, not just one verse.
Then please apply the same set of standards to the promises concerning salvation.
Again, please apply the same set of standards to the cherry picking, verse by itself, and out of context arguments.
I have not taken anything out of context that I am aware of.
If Jesus says, "What is tell you now, is the truth...", then what follows after that has to be the truth, as is. To say otherwise is to call it a half truth, seeing that it's not the whole council or truth of God.
Even the devil uses this method to deceive the multitudes.
He mixes in a little truth with a lie, to make it more believable.
If Jesus says, this is the truth, then it can stand alone by itself, and be the truth. It does not need other single verses that you add out of context, to make it any more true.
I call that, rearranging the bible to make it say what you want it to.
 

know1

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Forgive my ignorance, but where in the Bible is it written that only 2 1/2% of all people who ever lived will go to heaven and the rest will not? Are these the LORD'S words or yours?
You are not as ignorant as you may think. I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on that one liner. Congratulations, you get a cookie for being so observant.
If the testimony of a man who died is true, then yes, Jesus said that, but if it is not true, then He did not.
This is the account of a pastor who died and talked with Jesus. I believe his testimony was called, "Highway to Heaven".
I just believe what He said and used it as fact.
It is not written in scripture.
I hope that clears up any confusion.
 

know1

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Actually, I was thinking something similar to what Grace wrote, but now that I see it's all about the great you, and not God, I've changed my mind. I have a firm handle on arrogance already, so don't need you to teach me more about it.
"It's all about the great me, and not God"?
Where did you come up with this?
How am I exalting myself when I am exalting the truth and faithfulness of God and His word, and to have faith in the same?
God forbid that I should exalt myself.
I am trying to show that God's promises are true as is.
That we can believe them, the way they are, without adding to them to make ourselves feel better just because we didn't get what we asked for.
And that by factoring in the will of God to every promise outside that of salvation, is to turn it into a wishing well or a "hope to God" I get it, kind of thing.
The only thing about me in all this is, the believing and acting on the promises of God. That's my part.
I guess what goes around, comes around, huh?
Or what you sow, you will reap?