Solomon's supervisors (550 or 250)

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Enoch987

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I Kings 9:23 Solomon hired 550 supervisors...
1 Chronicles 8:10. Solomon hired 250 supervisors to build the Temple.

Genesis 32:14-15, Jacob gives 550 animals to Esau for peace.
The number of suckling camel calves that go with the 30 milk camels are not counted.

Joshua 7:21 Achan of Judah kept 200 shekels of gold and 50 shekels of silver that he should have given to the Levite treasury which God said caused Israel's defeat in the first attempt to conquer the city of Ai.

Numbers 16:1,2. Korah and his 250 princes thought they should be equal to Moses.

It was 550 years from Shem's birth until Isaac's.
550 years from Abram's birth until Israel conquered the Promised Land. (45 years from the Exodus to the conquering , Joshua 14:10 plus 430 years from Abram age 75 receiving God's promise until the Exodus from Egypt, Exodus 12:40).

It appears the antichrist will seem to be a great person then exalt himself equal to God.
This is explained by the study of the 550 supervisors or 250 supervisors of Solomon's temple.
Solomon was paid 666 talents of gold in 1 Kings 10:14 and in 2 Chronicles 9:13.
 

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I Kings 9:23 Solomon hired 550 supervisors...
1 Chronicles 8:10. Solomon hired 250 supervisors to build the Temple.

Genesis 32:14-15, Jacob gives 550 animals to Esau for peace.
The number of suckling camel calves that go with the 30 milk camels are not counted.

Joshua 7:21 Achan of Judah kept 200 shekels of gold and 50 shekels of silver that he should have given to the Levite treasury which God said caused Israel's defeat in the first attempt to conquer the city of Ai.

Numbers 16:1,2. Korah and his 250 princes thought they should be equal to Moses.

It was 550 years from Shem's birth until Isaac's.
550 years from Abram's birth until Israel conquered the Promised Land. (45 years from the Exodus to the conquering , Joshua 14:10 plus 430 years from Abram age 75 receiving God's promise until the Exodus from Egypt, Exodus 12:40).

It appears the antichrist will seem to be a great person then exalt himself equal to God.
This is explained by the study of the 550 supervisors or 250 supervisors of Solomon's temple.
Solomon was paid 666 talents of gold in 1 Kings 10:14 and in 2 Chronicles 9:13.
The clearer passages are tough enough, why introduce even more obscure passages?
 

Enoch987

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The clearer passages are tough enough, why introduce even more obscure passages?
Because I assume you believe in Biblical inerrancy and errors should be explained but the real reason is Chuck Missler says the rabbis say that when there is a verse that on the surface that doesn't seem to make sense, there is a hidden message that's worth digging for.
Do you believe the Daniel 12:11-12, 1290 to 1335 days after the abomination that desolates is a straight forward Message?
I do. If you don't then you are probably don't take the 1000 years of Revelation 20 as literal. Both are straight forward scripture.
 

posthuman

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I Kings 9:23 Solomon hired 550 supervisors...
1 Chronicles 8:10. Solomon hired 250 supervisors to build the Temple.
that's 2 Chron, not 1 Chron -- typo i assume. in both passages the supervisors are described for the building of more than just the temple; this account is describing work also for his palace and the rebuilding of Gezer, several storehouse cities, and some 20 cities of Galilee.

this article:
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=741
mentions that two scholars, Keil and Delitzsch, point out the difference between the two accounts makes up exactly the difference in the accounts of the total number of workers between 1 Kings 5:16 and 2 Chronicles 2:18, such that when the differing number of supervisors is put together with the tally of other workers, both Chronicles & Kings sum to 3,850. their understanding is that perhaps the author of Chronicles classified by nationality and the author of Kings classified by authority. ((e.g. 1 Kings 9:20-22 differentiates between the Israelite supervisors and the various other people conscripted))
 
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posthuman

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an alternative conjecture in the article i linked above is that one author is listing active supervisors only while the other is including 300 more 'reservists'

there is also a discrepancy in the amount of gold brought from Ophir between these two chapters; 2 Chron. 8 lists 450 talents and 1 Kings 9 lists 420. an explanation given for this is that Hiram sent much gold for the work ((re: 1 Kings 10:11 & 2 Chron 9:10)) -- with a total listed in 1 Chron. 29:4 of 3,000 talents. the discrepancy may be explained here if the 420/450 talents account is for one 'average' shipload - with probably 7 total shiploads brought ((3,000 / 7 = 428 and change)).

another difference between the two passages is the 20 cities of Galilee; in 1 Kings 9:10-13 these are said to be given to Hiram, and that Hiram thought low of them. in 2 Chronicles 8:2, it's said that Solomon rebuilt cities Hiram had given to him. the proposed reconciliation is that Solomon gave him a city for each year of the work, and that Hiram, calling them 'good for nothing' ((hey, can anything good come out of Galilee? haha)) gave them back to Solomon, essentially refusing payment for what he donated toward the building of the temple and other projects.
 

Enoch987

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posthuman helped me figure out that the difference in supervisors represents Jesus' ministry.
Luke 9:23, about age 30, Jesus started his ministry.
His ministry was the gospel of peace. A bruised reed he would not crush.
Luke 4:18-19 the gospel of liberty for the captives.
This is what the numbers 550 represents.

I believe that Jesus died in his 36th year. That doesn't mean it's true but if it is, he would have been born in 5 BC.
King Herod died in 4 BC according to the timeline given by Josephus.

The biblical evidence for Jesus' death in his 36th year.
Joshua 7:3-5, "2 to 3000 were chosen. Of 3000, about 36 were killed."
so Joshua choose 30,000. 5000 of these waited in ambush while the rest of the 30,000 drew out the men of Ai.
The gospel is predicted in military terms. (The Holy Spirit was given 50 days after the crucifixion. Jesus was accused of blasphemy which is represented by Joshua 7 Achan of Judah's 250 shekels followed by his execution and the 30,000 minus the 5000 (equal to 25,000) who did God's will by retreating which resulted in victory over Ai.
The rest of the 30,000 are not called 25,000 because although accused of blasphemy (declaring oneself equal to or greater than God), Jesus was not a blasphemer.

There are 3 Passovers in John. There is one holy day festival that is not named.
Some say the unnamed festival was a Passover which would make 4 Passovers but there are definitely 3 Passovers.

Jesus at age 33 years, started his ministry of peace (550) plus 3 Passovers = age 36 when Jesus died accused of blasphemy (250).
1 Kings 5:16, 3300 foreman plus 1 Kings 9:23, 550 officials equals 3850.
2 Chron. 2:18 3600 foreman plus 2 chron. 8:10, 250 officials equals 3850.
I don't know what the 3850 represents.
What is important is Jesus is the Temple and Solomon's supervisors build the Temple.
Jesus said the volume of the book is written of me.
 

Johnny_B

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Because I assume you believe in Biblical inerrancy and errors should be explained but the real reason is Chuck Missler says the rabbis say that when there is a verse that on the surface that doesn't seem to make sense, there is a hidden message that's worth digging for.
Do you believe the Daniel 12:11-12, 1290 to 1335 days after the abomination that desolates is a straight forward Message?
I do. If you don't then you are probably don't take the 1000 years of Revelation 20 as literal. Both are straight forward scripture.
Ask Chuck how any of those verses brings a clearer understanding of God's nature or sanctification to the believer. Because other then that your are digging gopher holes and following rabbit trails.
 

posthuman

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Joshua 7:3-5, "2 to 3000 were chosen. Of 3000, about 36 were killed."

if you include Achan among those who died in conjunction with what happened at Ai, that's 37 :rolleyes:
 

Enoch987

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if you include Achan among those who died in conjunction with what happened at Ai, that's 37 :rolleyes:
Don't tell James37 about this. The Bible does not include Achan in the 'about 36' who were killed but you have a good point.
 

Enoch987

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Ask Chuck how any of those verses brings a clearer understanding of God's nature or sanctification to the believer. Because other then that your are digging gopher holes and following rabbit trails.
Having read Zechariah, many of the prophecies of Jesus' life and passion week are cryptic which required Jesus or the Holy Spirit to explain to the apostles.