Which is more important: Correct doctrine or a godly attitude toward others?

[blue_ladybug]

Bible Discussion Forum..

What does BDF stand for??

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

When you compare the Parable of the Talents to the Parable of the Sower you will see that the talent is the equivalent of the seed sown, which is the knowledge of the kingdom.

Simply possessing the knowledge of the kingdom is not enough. But so many people take false comfort in their knowing over and above actually living out the knowledge of the kingdom they have received.

The seed in that parable is the word. The word is so much more than knowledge.

 

[EarnestQ]

"Religious correctness" is NOT what Jesus displayed (Matthew 21:12; Matthew 23) when people were IN ERROR! Until one is in "THE FAITH" (II Corinthians 13:5) GOD told us "This witness is true. Wherefore REBUKE THEM SHARPLY, that they may be SOUND IN "THE FAITH!"

I know RELIGION has taught "the fruit of the Spirit" but HOW can one have "the fruit of the Spirit" when they haven't acquired "THE SPIRIT" which is given by being Holy Spirit baptized according to how JESUS SAID (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8)?

How can you NOT have "CONFORMATION" as *JESUS SAID* yet THINK "I'm saved" because I believe in "saving faith?" "FAITH" is a "Spiritual gift" given to the "members of the body of Christ" who have been Holy Spirit baptized (I Corinthians 12:13) and doesn't come from "LIP SERVICE" (Matthew 15:8)!

Consequently, it doesn't matter WHAT YOU BELIEVE if your salvation didn't come the way JESUS SAID with "CONFORMATION" of the "POWER" (Acts 1:8) to perform the MIRACULOUS "SIGNS THAT FOLLOW" (Mark 16:16-20) you are NOT "in" Christ and "you worship you no not what" (John 4:22)!

"Correct doctrine" who "guides us into all truth" (John 16:13) *AFTER* Holy Spirit baptism (Philippians 2:13)!

I don't disagree with you but the initial question referred to those who had already accepted the "doctrine" of salvation through Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection.

 

[EarnestQ]

True doctrine produces true love while false doctrine produces false love, which likely looks much the same on the surface. Hence, there are those I would not believe if they professed, or even 'showed', their love to me, because I do not believe lies. And likewise, there are those that would not believe me if I were to profess love to them because they do not believe the truth.

Are you saying that even if a poster on CC claims to be a Christian, if he/she does not display Christian humility, ETC., they may not really be a Christian?

 

[EarnestQ]

All you say is so true, and it means that our walk has to be on a very narrow path. When someone sins we are to be able to judge that sin and even be able to give people a hand away from the sin they are in, but not judge them at the same time. Impossible unless we are holding the hand of the Lord.

I am living in an assisted living facility and the one Christian here just left for the hospital. A minister comes in on Sunday but I am the only one who goes. The poor man knows about grace and Jesus, but he doesn't recognize the Father of Jesus or anything about our walk with God after salvation. So I must go to others to share with. By living completely apart from my brothers and sisters in Christ, yet loving these people, it is a lesson to learn. I can only bring them to
Christ by living it and not sharing it when it would be rejected.

You might consider contacting a few (good) churches in your community and ask if there is anyone available to visit with you on occasion.

 

[LaurieB]

You might consider contacting a few (good) churches in your community and ask if there is anyone available to visit with you on occasion.

Very good suggestion. I hope they will do this ... I know when my mother was in a rehab (not the same as as AL ... I know), they did have a Minister come in on a regular basis and they had Church services. Of course, if it is the wrong service or the wrong Minister/Pastor, if would be difficult ... but a great thought.

 

[Incognito]

Correct doctrine is a miracle.

Godly attitude is a miracle.


Which miracle is most important? You can't have either one without asking God for it.

So a better question would be "which would you ask God for, correct doctrine or Godly attitude"?

Why wouldn't you ask for both? Why do you not know that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him?

John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

Hebrews 7:7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

I thank God that I am not like these other fellows and I have godly attitude. NO, no, no.

I just thank God. And I tell others where I got all these blessings from so they can be blessed as well.


Ephesians 1:3-6
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


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AFTER Holy Spirit baptism; it's "GOD who worketh in us..." (Philippians 2:13) who PRODUCES *BOTH!*

The problem is what "man" PERCEIVES as "godly" and "ungodly" not knowing the WORD OF GOD!

"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt IN ANY WISE *REBUKE* thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him" (Leviticus 19:17).

"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, or speakest to warned the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND" (Ezekiel 3:18)!

BETTER THEE THAN ME!

"THIS WITNESS IS TRUE: Wherefore REBUKE THEM SHARPLY (WITH THE WORD), that they may be strong in *THE FAITH*" (Titus 1:13)!

NOW YOU KNOW WHY I DO WHAT I DO!

HOW ABOUT YOU?

Blessings

 

[Incognito]

I don't disagree with you but the initial question referred to those who had already accepted the "doctrine" of salvation through Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection.

What is the "doctrine" of salvation?"

 

[Incognito]

You might consider contacting a few (good) churches in your community and ask if there is anyone available to visit with you on occasion.

To bring the doctrine of "men" produced by the VICEGERENT?

It would be better to "OBEY GOD" (Acts 5:29) and "Seek ye FIRST the Holy Spirit baptism..." who *IS* "the Kingdom of God" (Matthew 6:33) so HE can "guide you into ALL truth" (John 16:13)!

 

[hunterpoet]

Bible Discussion Forum..

thank you very much

 

[Mem]

Are you saying that even if a poster on CC claims to be a Christian, if he/she does not display Christian humility, ETC., they may not really be a Christian?

I'm saying the fruit cannot really be discern by outer appearances, as some of it is wax fruit mixed in with real fruit. Real fruit can only be discerned by the Spirit, since, after all, it is spiritual fruit.

I mean, are lemons disqualified as being fruit because they are characteristically sour?

 

[EarnestQ]

I suggested:

"You might consider contacting a few (good) churches in your community and ask if there is anyone available to visit with you on occasion."

You responded:

To bring the doctrine of "men" produced by the VICEGERENT?

It would be better to "OBEY GOD" (Acts 5:29) and "Seek ye FIRST the Holy Spirit baptism..." who *IS* "the Kingdom of God" (Matthew 6:33) so HE can "guide you into ALL truth" (John 16:13)!

What is "VICEGERENT"?

Are you saying that if he asked for some Christian companionship from a local Bible believing church he would not be "obeying God"?

 

[EarnestQ]

Real fruit can only be discerned by the Spirit, since, after all, it is spiritual fruit.

Are you saying that if a poster is being abusive that we are to judge them as non-Christians?

If they strongly disagree with our own firmly held beliefs, are we to judge them as non-Christians?

 

[Didymous]

Incognito, you are the vicegerent here.

 

[Mem]

Are you saying that if a poster is being abusive that we are to judge them as non-Christians?

If they strongly disagree with our own firmly held beliefs, are we to judge them as non-Christians?

Not everyone regards the same Christ, so as not to qualify as non-Christian in that way. I'm not saying anything about judging according to what might be perceived as abuse, as putting lemon juice on a cut may sting, but it is also analgesic or some other fancy medical term, ha!), ...though that might be a bad illustration of my thought, as I'm not absolutely sure putting lemon juice on a cut is advisable or not except with further research.