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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    you are now hell bound!
    Satan has taken many here captive.
    Most here do not attend church. Most have fallen from grace.
    You seem to know an awful lot about everybody else here in CC land.
    Extraordinary.
    What do you read all 30,000 about me information pages to ascertain
    your judgment as to our failings and infirmities according to you.

    Look you just go and judge yourself [for I see room for much improvement]
    and let me judge myself against the Word of God, rather than against your
    concepts of belief and righteousness.

    To be honest the more I read your posts the more you come across
    as muddled and nonsensical. Of course I am telling you this in the nicest
    way possible.

    Vegemite on toast anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino246 View Post


    First, if you're going to condemn people, at least ensure your pronouns are consistent.

    Second, Jesus says in Luke 6:37 "“Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."



    You don't know "most here". You have no business making such pronouncements.
    Jesus said, "You must lose your life, and you will then find His life." Why have you neglected the Cross?
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    Jesus said, "You must lose your life, and you will then find His life." Why have you neglected the Cross?
    If I considered your question to have any validity at all, I might consider responding to it.
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    Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
    Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
    2Ti 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
    2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

    A Christian is a person who acts like Christ,and is led of the Spirit,and hypocrites do not belong to the Church,and the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church.

    Therefore a Christian cannot be in spiritual bondage to Satan.

    1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    How can someone be a Christian and be in spiritual bondage,for it is a contradiction.

    Like people say hypocritical Christian,but there is no such thing as a hypocritical Christian,for a Christian is not a hypocrite,and a hypocrite is not a Christian.

    If you are not led of the Spirit,and acting like Christ,representing goodness,then you are not a Christian,no matter how much you confess Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    Most Christians don't give Satan control on purpose who are being oppressed (2 Timothy 2:24-26). Sin gives Satan the legal right to hold man captive. Yet, considering that Jesus atoned for all sin at the Cross, past, present, and future, at least for those who will believe, how can Satan hold Christians in bondage? How can a born-again Christian be freed from the bondage of Satan?
    How do you know if most Christians are presently in spiritual bondage to Satan? Was a poll conducted? A born again Christian is already free from the bondage of Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino246 View Post
    If I considered your question to have any validity at all, I might consider responding to it.
    Do you not know if you reject the Perfect Sacrifice there remains no other...why have your name blotted out the book of life? Why?
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tourist View Post
    How do you know if most Christians are presently in spiritual bondage to Satan? Was a poll conducted? A born again Christian is already free from the bondage of Satan.
    If your Faith is not placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and Him Crucified, you are a captive of Satan (2 Tim. 2:24-26); In bondage (the law of sin and death). Does God consider this person to be righteous? If so how?
    Last edited by MessageOfTheCross; April 14th, 2018 at 06:06 PM.
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    Do you not know if you reject the Perfect Sacrifice there remains no other...why have your name blotted out the book of life? Why?
    Why are you assuming that Dino has rejected Jesus Christ or what He did on the cross for us?
    Nothing Dino has ever written on this forum would give one that impression.

    Disagreeing with your gigantic straw-man is not the same as rejecting Jesus Christ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by graceNpeace View Post
    Why are you assuming that Dino has rejected Jesus Christ or what He did on the cross for us?
    Nothing Dino has ever written on this forum would give one that impression.

    Disagreeing with your gigantic straw-man is not the same as rejecting Jesus Christ...
    ​Why have you rejected the Cross?
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    ​Why have you rejected the Cross?
    What possible evidence do YOU have for such an absurd accusation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    ​Why have you rejected the Cross?
    What is the message of the cross? How do we know who has the true message of the cross?

    Is it not by those who like Jesus lay down their lives for their brothers - "by this shall all men know that ye are my disciples"

    I think it is most important and crucial that we model love to all around us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    Most Christians don't give Satan control on purpose who are being oppressed (2 Timothy 2:24-26). Sin gives Satan the legal right to hold man captive. Yet, considering that Jesus atoned for all sin at the Cross, past, present, and future, at least for those who will believe, how can Satan hold Christians in bondage? How can a born-again Christian be freed from the bondage of Satan?
    Whom the son sets free is free indeed.

    The correct picture for this verse is that not only are the doors to the jailhouse are opened but that the Redeemer after paying the ramsom comes in grabs you by the scruff and rushes you out.
    Condemnation is the tool Satan uses to bring doubt to the believer but Paul reminds us there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graceNpeace View Post
    What possible evidence do YOU have for such an absurd accusation?
    Your faith is not placed in the Cross...case closed.
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    Your faith is not placed in the Cross...case closed.
    I ask again, how on earth would YOU know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Whom the son sets free is free indeed.

    The correct picture for this verse is that not only are the doors to the jailhouse are opened but that the Redeemer after paying the ramsom comes in grabs you by the scruff and rushes you out.
    Condemnation is the tool Satan uses to bring doubt to the believer but Paul reminds us there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.
    Does a Believer stay free if they do not enter into sanctification? Do they stay saved? If you reject the Cross what happens to you?
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by graceNpeace View Post
    I ask again, how on earth would YOU know?
    ​Light recognize Light...I know by your fruits.
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post
    ​Light recognize Light...I know by your fruits.
    So...if I disagree with you then I am automatically apostate and hell-bound...

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    Quote Originally Posted by graceNpeace View Post
    So...if I disagree with you then I am automatically apostate and hell-bound...

    If you reject the message of the cross, you are hell bound (1 Cor. 1:18). So don't listen to theses Judaizers.
    Last edited by MessageOfTheCross; April 14th, 2018 at 07:03 PM.
    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameen View Post

    Third and Last, A man saying that he is Christian but living in carnal life cannot be called a Christian.
    The Corinthians were called saints, but they were carnal in some ways/practices, they needed doctrine, correction, reproof... but, they were still saved & righteous from God's perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MessageOfTheCross View Post

    If you reject the message of the cross, you are hell bound (1 Cor. 1:18). So don't listen to theses Judaizers.
    Who says I reject the message of the cross?

    Also, it is clear across several threads that you have no idea what a Judaizer is!
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