AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...)

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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: NEW ROME AND BABYLON THE GREAT
("Come out of her, My people...")​


In the days of the apostle John, at the time that the Lord gave him the revelation, “Babylon” was Rome.

America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.

Rome (which would have been Babylon, had the events foretold in the Revelation taken place at the time it was given) was a city that was also a nation; so Babylon today (like the original city of Babylon), is not just a city but also representative of a nation.


The Babylon Checklist:


  • America is the great importer and customer of the world. She buys all its goods, and other nations profit from and depend upon her business. (Revelation 18:3, 11-14)
  • America has dominion over the kings of the earth economically, and perhaps militarily. (Revelation 17:18)
  • America is a multicultural nation, as Rome also was. (Revelation 17:15)
  • America bought slaves (the transatlantic slave trade)---and she still has them, in the form of secret slavery and sex slavery---just as Rome bought slaves. (Revelation 18:13)
  • America is wealthy, as Rome was. (Revelation 18:16,17)
  • America is a self-indulgent lover of pleasures, as Rome was. (Isaiah 47:8, Revelation 18:7)
  • All the nations of the world have drunk the wine of the passion of America’s sexual immorality, through her sexually immoral and perverted movies and music, which are exported to the nations of the world and enjoyed by them. (Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 17:2, 18:3)
  • America is the mother of earth's abominations, via the influence of her movies and music, and her immoral pop-culture and values, which the nations of the world imbibe and emulate, corrupting themselves likewise. (Revelation 17:5)


(Contrary to popular belief, and the assertions of some patriotic Americans, the United States of America was not founded as a Christian nation, nor is it a Christian nation. The USA is not a theocracy, and it is not governed by the New Testament, even though some Biblical principles may have been included in or have influenced its constitution and some of its founding fathers may have been deists or Christians. The history of this country is not a Christian history according to the New Testament’s teachings, even though a majority of its population may have historically been professing Christians of some kind. And it certainly isn’t in any way a Christian nation now, by government or by culture, even though Christians live here---quite comfortably, I might add...)


Of all the nations in the world, the USA is the one that lines up best with the Bible’s description of Babylon, the great city of the last days (which city could be New York City---the home of Wall Street, and the most iconic and famous American city---representative of the whole of the USA, as the city of Rome was representative of the Roman nation and as the city of Babylon was representative of the Babylonian nation).


So, the Lord’s call to His people who are dwelling in Babylon is to come out of her, spiritually:


Do not partake of her forbidden and corrupting delicacies, which surround you.

Do not make her standards your standard.

Do not embrace her ideologies and 'wisdom', which are contrary to Christian doctrine (the doctrine of the New Testament), and anti-Christ.

Do not become adulterers in your hearts, in love with the pleasures and comforts of the land in which you sojourn.

Do not compromise the word of God in order to have what Babylon offers you and to be comfortable and prosperous in her, which is not what you were called to by God.

Come out of her spiritually, brothers and sisters---if you have become like her---and save your lives. If you come out of her spiritually, and cleanse and separate yourselves from Babylon’s corrupting influences and unGodly ways, God will also deliver you from her physically. He will not destroy the righteous with the wicked. But if you love her, and will not separate yourself from her because you love her, and your treasure is here, and you have found your life here, and you are partaking in her sins and will not repent of them, you will not escape her judgments, or save your life.


“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…” (Revelation 18:4)


You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.


Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:4-10)


But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure (take heed, those of you who are indulging in pornography), or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Be ye not therefore partakers with them.) (Ephesians 5:3-7)


We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober… (1 Thessalonians 5:5-8)


Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13,14)


Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming (on the children of disobedience). (Colossians 3:5,6)


Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”


Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 6:17,18; 7:1)


Do not love the world, or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world---the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions---is not from the Father but is from the world. (1 John 2:15,16)


He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life. (John 12:25)


Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21)
 

trofimus

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“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…
So, where will you go... to Canada? :)
 
Apr 15, 2017
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That is true.

God said no nation rules unless He allows it,and there is a purpose for America.

God has to end this sin business on earth one day,so He is going to give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom in Revelation.

So the wicked will become worse in selfishness,arrogance,and self exaltation,which has started years ago.

America is like Babylon,the daughter of Babylon,anything goes multiculture,that allows all religions to be practiced,and all ethnic groups to live there,in an attempt to get the world to harmonize,and put aside their differences.

On the back of the dollar bill,announcing the conception of a new order of the ages,and out of many,one.

America's purpose is to gather the nations together to establish evolution as the standard religion of the world,which is how they interpret the Bible,and to produce the New Age Christ,which they do not believe he will help mankind until the nations come together as one to try to establish peace on earth,which they want him to help them to evolve through the power of nature to be greater.

America has a dual purpose.To start the separation between those that love God,and those that do not love God,for she gets the Gospel out,and allows it to be preached in the nation,and in the world,and allows fleshy pleasures,and worldliness,and the pursuit of money,and material things.

There are many nations along with America,but they are allowing America to do her thing until a certain point in time,and then she will collapse on purpose,and her collapse will cause the nations to come together to continue with the peace plan America started,as Europe takes more interest in the affairs of the world.

But when the nations come together,and operate by the ten horn kingdom,they have it planned for the ten horn kingdom to collapse,so the world will accept the New Age Christ,and then the unified religious system will collapse,Mystery Babylon,for they will burn her with fire,and make her desolate,for they have no need for her anymore,for their little occult practices,and the belief in evolution,could not cause them to be greater to the extent they wanted,and if they thought it caused them to benefit in any way it is just their imagination,but they know it does not benefit them like they believe the New Age Christ will benefit them,which that too is a lie,and they will find out then that there is no power.

For all who do not love God will be deceived by a devil to follow the beast kingdom,so they will have the nature of a devil,and cannot turn back to their original nature to have a choice,so they will not rebel against the New Age Christ who promised power,and could not deliver,but they will go along with him as they war against everyone that opposes their kingdom.

America and Russia,and Right Wing,and Left Wing,are actually working together,the Hegel System,and controlled conflict brings about controlled change,so North Korea and America probably have been working together all along,for it does not make sense North Korea's boldness,but it does make sense according to controlled conflict brings about controlled change,and small nations would feel the nations coming together would be a benefit to them.

They want to solve peace in the Middle East,and then the nations will come together,the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system,Mystery Babylon,with all religions interpreted according to evolution,and anything preached contrary to that is against international law,which Christianity will rapidly decline,and the time that the world will only want to hear the Bible according to evolution,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher,and ascended master,which they want to become an ascended master when the New Age Christ appears claiming to have harnessed the power of nature.

The way the world operates sparks a war between Islam and the world,and then the world will turn to the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth,and that is the falling away first,when the transgressors are come to the full,then a king of fierce countenance,and understanding dark sentences,will stand up,and they will follow him,which they believe it is Lucifer that will help them that brought the principle of mind to the then animal-man,and will cause them to evolve through the power of nature.

In Revelation a certain nation caused the world to come together,for when she falls the other nations stand afar off for the fear of her torment.

America fits the description of Babylon in Revelation,which is Babylon in spirit.

Babylon has not fallen yet.

In Daniel 7,Babylon,Medo-Persia,and Greece,shall never have physical dominion again,but their lives were prolonged for a season and time,which means their ways are still on earth.

Which Babylon represents human religion,the occult,and the kingdom of man,and Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty,and Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until God puts down the world,which she represents pushing for power,world denomination,which she shall devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces.

When Jesus strikes the feet of ten toes in Daniel 2 then Babylon,and Medo-Persia,and Greece,and the Roman Empire fall.

As long as their ways are on earth they have not fallen yet.

The beast kingdom in Revelation 13 has ten horns,the Roman Empire,the physical dominion,with the ways of a lion,Babylon,human religion,the occult,kingdom of man,with the ways of a bear,Medo-Persia,physical cruelty to take away everyone that goes against the beast kingdom without compassion as past kingdoms showed,although they could be cruel at times,and the ways of a leopard,Greece,human wisdom.

The world going by their own religion,their own wisdom,and being physically cruel that has not been done before to that extent,that acknowledges no personal God,and since the beast kingdom is the kingdom of man,and human religion,the occult,then she is known as Babylon in spirit.

The powers that be want evolution to be the standard religion of the world so they can evolve to be greater through the power of nature,and they do not believe that the New Age Christ will help them to evolve until the nations come together to try to establish peace on earth.

If America were truly a Christian nation,and the powers to be did not have the plan to establish evolution as the religion of the world,she would of operated differently.

But the powers that be do not care if America collapses,for she was not meant to be a nation that continues on,but to collapse on purpose after she worked in the world for a time,so that it will cause the nations to come together.

Like the phoenix bird that is consumed by fire,and out of it's ashes arises a new phoenix bird,or so they believe.
 
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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: NEW ROME AND BABYLON THE GREAT
("Come out of her, My people...")​


In the days of the apostle John, at the time that the Lord gave him the revelation, “Babylon” was Rome.

America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.

Rome (which would have been Babylon, had the events foretold in the Revelation taken place at the time it was given) was a city that was also a nation; so Babylon today (like the original city of Babylon), is not just a city but also representative of a nation.


The Babylon Checklist:


  • America is the great importer and customer of the world. She buys all its goods, and other nations profit from and depend upon her business. (Revelation 18:3, 11-14)
  • America has dominion over the kings of the earth economically, and perhaps militarily. (Revelation 17:18)
  • America is a multicultural nation, as Rome also was. (Revelation 17:15)
  • America bought slaves (the transatlantic slave trade)---and she still has them, in the form of secret slavery and sex slavery---just as Rome bought slaves. (Revelation 18:13)
  • America is wealthy, as Rome was. (Revelation 18:16,17)
  • America is a self-indulgent lover of pleasures, as Rome was. (Isaiah 47:8, Revelation 18:7)
  • All the nations of the world have drunk the wine of the passion of America’s sexual immorality, through her sexually immoral and perverted movies and music, which are exported to the nations of the world and enjoyed by them. (Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 17:2, 18:3)
  • America is the mother of earth's abominations, via the influence of her movies and music, and her immoral pop-culture and values, which the nations of the world imbibe and emulate, corrupting themselves likewise. (Revelation 17:5)


(Contrary to popular belief, and the assertions of some patriotic Americans, the United States of America was not founded as a Christian nation, nor is it a Christian nation. The USA is not a theocracy, and it is not governed by the New Testament, even though some Biblical principles may have been included in or have influenced its constitution and some of its founding fathers may have been deists or Christians. The history of this country is not a Christian history according to the New Testament’s teachings, even though a majority of its population may have historically been professing Christians of some kind. And it certainly isn’t in any way a Christian nation now, by government or by culture, even though Christians live here---quite comfortably, I might add...)


Of all the nations in the world, the USA is the one that lines up best with the Bible’s description of Babylon, the great city of the last days (which city could be New York City---the home of Wall Street, and the most iconic and famous American city---representative of the whole of the USA, as the city of Rome was representative of the Roman nation and as the city of Babylon was representative of the Babylonian nation).


So, the Lord’s call to His people who are dwelling in Babylon is to come out of her, spiritually:


Do not partake of her forbidden and corrupting delicacies, which surround you.

Do not make her standards your standard.

Do not embrace her ideologies and 'wisdom', which are contrary to Christian doctrine (the doctrine of the New Testament), and anti-Christ.

Do not become adulterers in your hearts, in love with the pleasures and comforts of the land in which you sojourn.

Do not compromise the word of God in order to have what Babylon offers you and to be comfortable and prosperous in her, which is not what you were called to by God.

Come out of her spiritually, brothers and sisters---if you have become like her---and save your lives. If you come out of her spiritually, and cleanse and separate yourselves from Babylon’s corrupting influences and unGodly ways, God will also deliver you from her physically. He will not destroy the righteous with the wicked. But if you love her, and will not separate yourself from her because you love her, and your treasure is here, and you have found your life here, and you are partaking in her sins and will not repent of them, you will not escape her judgments, or save your life.


“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…” (Revelation 18:4)


You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.


Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:4-10)


But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure (take heed, those of you who are indulging in pornography), or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Be ye not therefore partakers with them.) (Ephesians 5:3-7)


We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober… (1 Thessalonians 5:5-8)


Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13,14)


Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming (on the children of disobedience). (Colossians 3:5,6)


Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”


Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 6:17,18; 7:1)


Do not love the world, or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world---the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions---is not from the Father but is from the world. (1 John 2:15,16)


He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life. (John 12:25)


Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21)
I've already asked you by whose authority you teach.

You teach by your own authority, and it is not a godly authority. You need authority in your life, because you're being blown about like a rudderless ship.

And the only one who doesn't seem to notice this is you.

Since it's all about ego for you, how's this one? You are proving to men why women should not teach.

You've become your own idol.
 

Noose

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I'll suggest you go back to Daniel and read then read again, it is about other kingdoms vs the Kingdom of God- Now, if the kingdom of God is not a country with a president and physical boundaries but a spiritual kingdom, why would anyone think the kingdom of antichrist has Trump on the helm and borders Canada or anywhere on this Earth?
 

Locutus

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SDA much?

We don't want you yanks up here....
 

Laish

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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: NEW ROME AND BABYLON THE GREAT
("Come out of her, My people...")​


In the days of the apostle John, at the time that the Lord gave him the revelation, “Babylon” was Rome.

America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.

Rome (which would have been Babylon, had the events foretold in the Revelation taken place at the time it was given) was a city that was also a nation; so Babylon today (like the original city of Babylon), is not just a city but also representative of a nation.


The Babylon Checklist:


  • America is the great importer and customer of the world. She buys all its goods, and other nations profit from and depend upon her business. (Revelation 18:3, 11-14)
  • America has dominion over the kings of the earth economically, and perhaps militarily. (Revelation 17:18)
  • America is a multicultural nation, as Rome also was. (Revelation 17:15)
  • America bought slaves (the transatlantic slave trade)---and she still has them, in the form of secret slavery and sex slavery---just as Rome bought slaves. (Revelation 18:13)
  • America is wealthy, as Rome was. (Revelation 18:16,17)
  • America is a self-indulgent lover of pleasures, as Rome was. (Isaiah 47:8, Revelation 18:7)
  • All the nations of the world have drunk the wine of the passion of America’s sexual immorality, through her sexually immoral and perverted movies and music, which are exported to the nations of the world and enjoyed by them. (Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 17:2, 18:3)
  • America is the mother of earth's abominations, via the influence of her movies and music, and her immoral pop-culture and values, which the nations of the world imbibe and emulate, corrupting themselves likewise. (Revelation 17:5)


(Contrary to popular belief, and the assertions of some patriotic Americans, the United States of America was not founded as a Christian nation, nor is it a Christian nation. The USA is not a theocracy, and it is not governed by the New Testament, even though some Biblical principles may have been included in or have influenced its constitution and some of its founding fathers may have been deists or Christians. The history of this country is not a Christian history according to the New Testament’s teachings, even though a majority of its population may have historically been professing Christians of some kind. And it certainly isn’t in any way a Christian nation now, by government or by culture, even though Christians live here---quite comfortably, I might add...)


Of all the nations in the world, the USA is the one that lines up best with the Bible’s description of Babylon, the great city of the last days (which city could be New York City---the home of Wall Street, and the most iconic and famous American city---representative of the whole of the USA, as the city of Rome was representative of the Roman nation and as the city of Babylon was representative of the Babylonian nation).


So, the Lord’s call to His people who are dwelling in Babylon is to come out of her, spiritually:


Do not partake of her forbidden and corrupting delicacies, which surround you.

Do not make her standards your standard.

Do not embrace her ideologies and 'wisdom', which are contrary to Christian doctrine (the doctrine of the New Testament), and anti-Christ.

Do not become adulterers in your hearts, in love with the pleasures and comforts of the land in which you sojourn.

Do not compromise the word of God in order to have what Babylon offers you and to be comfortable and prosperous in her, which is not what you were called to by God.

Come out of her spiritually, brothers and sisters---if you have become like her---and save your lives. If you come out of her spiritually, and cleanse and separate yourselves from Babylon’s corrupting influences and unGodly ways, God will also deliver you from her physically. He will not destroy the righteous with the wicked. But if you love her, and will not separate yourself from her because you love her, and your treasure is here, and you have found your life here, and you are partaking in her sins and will not repent of them, you will not escape her judgments, or save your life.


“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…” (Revelation 18:4)


You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.


Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:4-10)


But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure (take heed, those of you who are indulging in pornography), or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Be ye not therefore partakers with them.) (Ephesians 5:3-7)


We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober… (1 Thessalonians 5:5-8)


Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13,14)


Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming (on the children of disobedience). (Colossians 3:5,6)


Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”


Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 6:17,18; 7:1)


Do not love the world, or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world---the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions---is not from the Father but is from the world. (1 John 2:15,16)


He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life. (John 12:25)


Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21)
Your check list can apply to any developed country in the world.
It could also apply to a few global corporations .Amazon, and Google come to mind .
The United States has its faults like nutters on the internet. It is not the global bugbear that
many alarmist falsely claim .
Blessings
Bill
 

Shamah

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Nehemiah6

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America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.​
There are many who teach this about America, but the Bible speaks about a literal Babylon as well as Mystery Babylon (the RCC being a part of this). There is a lot of wickedness in America, but one cannot make it something which it is not.
 

Shamah

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There are many who teach this about America, but the Bible speaks about a literal Babylon as well as Mystery Babylon (the RCC being a part of this). There is a lot of wickedness in America, but one cannot make it something which it is not.
except when it is.

 

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But the U.S.A. is simply a product of Rome

Rome still rules the world
(hence conflict with the Jews who also want to rule all)
 

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The original Babylon is used as a symbol in the Bible for various aspects of civilization without God. In Daniel the statue represents Empires that will rise and fall from his time until the return of Christ. Four of them make up the statue. Features and elements of each are still with us. Rome hasn't vanished its changed form over the centuries. Its final form will be Ten ''kingdoms'' that are represented by the statues toes. Rome had an Eastern and Western aspect that are pictured as the statues legs. Each leg has five toes. Five represent European nations and the other five will emerge from the Middle East in the territory that all the statues Empires covered including Rome. The seven heads of the Beast include those in the statue but also Egypt and Assyria. All seven oppressed Israel.

The USA has not oppressed Israel. Israel actually depends on the USA for its survival. The nations are under Gods control. Some time in the future the US will no longer be able to support Israel. Its then that the Beast will be revealed to the world.
 

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The "come out of her my people" was directed at 1st century Jerusalem, specifically to Jewish/Israelite believers in Jesus prior to the destruction of the temple and sack of the city.
 

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Though the scriptures the OP present are Truth, they have been terribly misapplied within the context of this thread.
 

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"Peoplekind", y'all!!
What an absolute embarrassment to Canada. And then the disaster of the visit to India. He should have handed in his resignation immediately after that. But anyhow, Canada has yet to be called Babylon or Rome.
 

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Though the scriptures the OP present are Truth, they have been terribly misapplied within the context of this thread.
True. How in the world can a nation be deemed to be a city?
 
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The city that will be destroyed will be an actual city, as the Bible makes clear---perhaps New York city; but the city is representative of its nation and the culture of that nation, as Rome was of Rome and Babylon of Babylon, as the OP explains. That doesn't mean that the entire nation will be burned up (probably bombed), but just the city. Whether there will be any attacks on other cities in the U.S. at the time of the city of Babylon's destruction, I don't know, but only the city of Babylon is mentioned as being utterly destroyed in a single hour, as by a nuclear missile.

God will not allow any of His saints to be destroyed in the destruction of that city, just as He rescued Lot from Sodom. (The key of course is that one has to be in Him, and the rebellious and disobedient will not remain in Him, as the New Testament teaches, and so will fare just like the unsaved who never were in Him, if they are in Babylon at the time of her destruction.)

The obedient and faithful, those who truly love God by keeping His (New Testament) commandments (all of them, not just what is convenient or desirable to one---remember the Lord's warnings to Ephesus and Sardis) and are living to please Him, have nothing to fear for the time ahead---either the persecution of the tribulation, or Babylon's destruction. But the impenitent rebels among His people will perish (spiritually), as you have already been warned.

So do what the OP says to do, which is what the Bible also says and is in agreement with its teachings---lest you fulfill the Scriptural prophecies of condemnation and defeat rather than of blessing and victory.
 
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