10 Reasons Sin Confession Is Questionable!!!

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BenFTW

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TOTAL FORGIVENESS
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The blood of Jesus has granted us the remission of our sins (Hebrews 10:18).

2. Communion involves consuming bread and wine, representations of Jesus' flesh and blood. The blood representing the remission of our sins/our forgiveness (Matthew 26:27). We remember Jesus and that which He attained on our behalf through His suffering (the forgiveness of sin, reconciliation to the Father).

3. All sin has been forgiven through Jesus because He is the sacrifice for sin, once and for all (Hebrews 10:10-14).

4. If Christ is not risen, you are dead in your sins. He is risen though, and so you are not dead in your sins (1 Corinthians 15:17).

5. Jesus was sent to reconcile us to God, if we still have sin on our account (held against us), we remain condemned. However, there is no condemnation in Jesus Christ (Romans 8:1). Therefore our sin has been forgiven and has experienced remission (back to point 1).

6. Jesus being the sufficient sacrifice that He is for all sin, there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Therefore, there is nothing more to do in order for sin to experience remission/forgiveness. Jesus did it.

7. We are justified by faith, not works. We do not earn salvation (saved by grace through faith), we believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins, paying the penalty for our sins (death), and resurrected on the third day for our justification (Romans 5:1, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:5). So forgiveness then is a matter of faith in the Son of God.

8. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin(Hebrews 9:22). Remission occurs through blood shed, the method described in God's word. So what does that make of any method otherwise mentioned?

9. We may enter God's presence boldly, something we could not do if our sin was not forgiven. We would die! The blood of Jesus has made our sins of scarlet as white as snow and we do not have to have reservations going before Him (Hebrews 10:19-22).

10. Seeking forgiveness through anything other than faith in Christ is to trample underfoot the Son of God, considering His blood as common (not able to do that which God says it does; being the same as the blood of bulls and goats that are not able to take away sin) and attempts to find another offering, if you will (see point 6), when there remains no more sacrifice for sins (Hebrews 10:29). We are forgiven through Christ and Him crucified. This is the profession of our faith.

It is for these reasons that we have total forgiveness. We are redeemed and forgiven of all sin. This does not mean we stop repenting, but it does mean that we no longer seek forgiveness from God because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake. We may express gratitude, worship, and praise to the Lord for His mercy and grace. Thank Him for the Gospel, that we are reconciled to God, forgiven, and our sins paid in full by the Son of God, Jesus Christ our Messiah.

Ephesians 4:32 King James Version (KJV)

32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 

Nehemiah6

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Ben,

Give it a rest.
 

BenFTW

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Ben,

Give it a rest.
Oh I know there is another thread on this topic as well, but I wanted to start fresh with clear and concise points. Are you willing to consider these points, or is your mind made up? Do you disagree with them, and how so? Has this given you some food for thought?
 

Johnny_B

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TOTAL FORGIVENESS
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1.
The blood of Jesus has granted us the remission of our sins (Hebrews 10:18).

2. Communion involves consuming bread and wine, representations of Jesus' flesh and blood. The blood representing the remission of our sins/our forgiveness (Matthew 26:27). We remember Jesus and that which He attained on our behalf through His suffering (the forgiveness of sin, reconciliation to the Father).

3. All sin has been forgiven through Jesus because He is the sacrifice for sin, once and for all (Hebrews 10:10-14).

4. If Christ is not risen, you are dead in your sins. He is risen though, and so you are not dead in your sins (1 Corinthians 15:17).

5. Jesus was sent to reconcile us to God, if we still have sin on our account (held against us), we remain condemned. However, there is no condemnation in Jesus Christ (Romans 8:1). Therefore our sin has been forgiven and has experienced remission (back to point 1).

6. Jesus being the sufficient sacrifice that He is for all sin, there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Therefore, there is nothing more to do in order for sin to experience remission/forgiveness. Jesus did it.

7. We are justified by faith, not works. We do not earn salvation (saved by grace through faith), we believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins, paying the penalty for our sins (death), and resurrected on the third day for our justification (Romans 5:1, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:5). So forgiveness then is a matter of faith in the Son of God.

8. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin(Hebrews 9:22). Remission occurs through blood shed, the method described in God's word. So what does that make of any method otherwise mentioned?

9. We may enter God's presence boldly, something we could not do if our sin was not forgiven. We would die! The blood of Jesus has made our sins of scarlet as white as snow and we do not have to have reservations going before Him (Hebrews 10:19-22).

10. Seeking forgiveness through anything other than faith in Christ is to trample underfoot the Son of God, considering His blood as common (not able to do that which God says it does; being the same as the blood of bulls and goats that are not able to take away sin) and attempts to find another offering, if you will (see point 6), when there remains no more sacrifice for sins (Hebrews 10:29). We are forgiven through Christ and Him crucified. This is the profession of our faith.

It is for these reasons that we have total forgiveness. We are redeemed and forgiven of all sin. This does not mean we stop repenting, but it does mean that we no longer seek forgiveness from God because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake. We may express gratitude, worship, and praise to the Lord for His mercy and grace. Thank Him for the Gospel, that we are reconciled to God, forgiven, and our sins paid in full by the Son of God, Jesus Christ our Messiah.

Ephesians 4:32 King James Version (KJV)

32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Brother I agree we are totally forgiven from all sins past, present and future because of repentance once and for all. We confess sins that we have in our lives now, because we still have sins that we need to allow God to work out in our lives as He is sanctifying us. As you mentioned these sins are forgiven, yet it is still in our lives and we will die with sin in our lives. That is why John says "he who says he has no sin makes Him a liar". It is through the life (blood) of Jesus that we have forgiveness of sins. Because He lived the perfect life by keeping God's Law perfectly so that once He expirenced the Father's wrath, it would be satisfied and we could be saved.

I John 1:5-10 “This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”

The confussion come from the RCC and the confessional booth, to them confession and repentance is the same, but that is not what the Greek word means. The Greek word is, "
homologeō" here is what Vine's Expository Dictionaery of New Testament Words, Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of The New Testament, BAGD Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature says about this word. It means "to assent, to agree with, accord, denotes, either (a) to confess, declare, admit, to say the same thing, profess, admit. I like the commentary from Vine's and The International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (IDNTT), Vine's I John 1:9 "to declare openly by way of speaking out freely, such confession being the effect of deep coviction of facts."

The IDNTT is the greatest explaination, "Derived from the legal usage, homologeō in I John 1:9 means the confessing and acknowledgement of sins. The one who makes the avowal faces a fact. He tries neither to hide nor deny it. When someone acknowledges and avows his fault thus honestly, he experiences God's faithfulness and righteousness in the forgiveness of sins. The tradition of penitential Psalms is continued in the passages about confession of sins where except in I John 1:9 exomolegeō is used. Confession is a sign of repentance (--> Conversion) and thus a mark of the new life of faith. This is seen particularly clearly in Mark 1:5 parallel, where as the Psalms, public confession of sins means also being set free from them. The same is true of Acts 19:18, where the converts confess their earlier magical practices, and of James 5:16, where James exhorts mutual confession of sins, especially where illness is involved." end quote.

Let's look at the Scriptures mentioned, Mark 1:5 in it's context. “John appeared, baptizing in the wilderness and proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
5And all the country of Judea and all Jerusalem were going out to him and were being baptized by him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.”

Notice John is preaching repentance, yet the people come confessing their sins or we could say they came giving testamony of their past sins, because :exomologeō is the Greek word used for "confess(ing)" here as mentioned above, we will look at the word after looking at the Scriptures. The context of Acts 19:18 the story of the sons of Sceva.

Acts 19:14-20 “Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this. 15But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?” 16And the man in whom was the evil spirit leaped on them, mastered all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17And this became known to all the residents of Ephesus, both Jews and Greeks. And fear fell upon them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was extolled. 18Also many of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices. 19And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20So the word of the Lord continued to increase and prevail mightily.”

Notice these people came out "confessing and divulging their practices, i.e. or that is, their sins as we see was the magical arts. The conviction was so deep that they brought out books to be burned, with a value of, "fifth thousand pieces of silver" the equivalent of 1 million dollars if each coin was an once. Either way that is a large amount of money for books, when you think about 30 pieces of silver that Jesus sold for was 5 weeks of work based on a 6 day work week. We see that there was a deep coversion in these people, their repentance ran deep. Why because the Holy Spirit by the Word of God was changing hearts, it was not what we see today, Jesus wants you to live blessed now to have all you want is the new message.

These people not only heard the story of the seven sons of Sceva, they also had heard the stories of the Romans killing Christians. John the Baptist and James had their heads cut off, Steven was stoned to death by the Jews with Saul soon to be Paul, watching and holding the coats of those stoning Steven, the apostles and believers were being beaten with rods, inprisoned and whipped.

Yet the Spirit's conviction was so deep that they publicly burned these books for all to see, these people could of followed the way of
Ananias, and his wife Sapphira and sold the books and gave the money or part to the apostles, who knows if they heard that story as well. Many believers today myself included need to do a check to see what we have from our B.C. days that should be burned or trashed, listen to James.

James 5:13-18 “Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praise. 14Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working. 17Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth. 18Then he prayed again, and heaven gave rain, and the earth bore its fruit.”

Next post.
 

Johnny_B

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Here we see that we need to confess our sins to one another boldly knowing that the Lord has set us free from all sins, yet if there is sin in your life which we all have. We boldly confess it so that the elders and/or the brotheren can pray for us, that we would be save or restored, this makes me think of I Corinthians 11:27-32,

“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. 31But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged. 32But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.”

It would seem that James is in tume with the same Spirit as Paul this is why they are talking about illness, sickness, suffering and many being weak to the point of death. There are those that are taking communion in an unworthy manner. Paul is giving the warning and James is giving the remedy, many do not understand the seriousness of communion. Yes it is in the rememberance of Christ and His return, yet some see it as a piece fo bread and a cup of juice. When you look at what Paul and James are saying, we need to do as Paul says we need to examine ourselves and because we are born again we come boldly before our community of believers and confess our sins so that the pray of righteous men will restore us. Are we eating and drinking judgement on ourselves or are we letting our children eat and drink judgement one themselves because they fully do not understand yet?

Some might ask why does Paul say, "if we judge ourselves truly, we would not be judged." He says that because of what John said, "if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins" Why because we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit and are not afraid to declare our sins because we know that the Lord has forgiven us of all our sins, yet sin dwells in us. So we boldly come and testify about the sins that He has forgiven us of as the Spirit reminds us we agree and testify, as we are sanctified, remebering. Titus 3:4-7

“But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

Romans 12:1-2 “I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”

We are being renewed by the Spirit and transformed by the renewal of the mind, that we confess our sins to the household of faith. So that we will not eat and drink in an unworthy manner in our worship services, the cheerful will be as Ephesians 5:18-21 insturuces us to be filled with the Spirit or renewed.

“And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, 19addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, 20giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.”

The testamony of the rebirth that we submit to one another out of reverance to Christ in confession of our sins to be restored if there is illness, sin, eating or drinking in an unworthy manner. We call on the elders to be anointed with oil that the prayer of the righteous can restore us to right standing with the Lord and our suffering, illness and the possiblity of death and judgement come before it's time, we will be saved from it, that we can sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs to one another, which reminds me of Hebrews 4:14-16

“Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”





 
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1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (RSV)
Pr 28:13 ¶ He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy. (RSV)
1Jo 1:8 ¶ If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (RSV)
 
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I thought hypergrace wasn't allowed as a topic on here anymore.
 
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why do certain people work so hard at trying to make scripture say things it never said

just throw out the Bible already and right your own :p

I thought hypergrace wasn't allowed as a topic on here anymore.
oh

is that what it is :rolleyes:
 
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TOTAL FORGIVENESS
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The blood of Jesus has granted us the remission of our sins (Hebrews 10:18).

2. Communion involves consuming bread and wine, representations of Jesus' flesh and blood. The blood representing the remission of our sins/our forgiveness (Matthew 26:27). We remember Jesus and that which He attained on our behalf through His suffering (the forgiveness of sin, reconciliation to the Father).

3. All sin has been forgiven through Jesus because He is the sacrifice for sin, once and for all (Hebrews 10:10-14).

4. If Christ is not risen, you are dead in your sins. He is risen though, and so you are not dead in your sins (1 Corinthians 15:17).

5. Jesus was sent to reconcile us to God, if we still have sin on our account (held against us), we remain condemned. However, there is no condemnation in Jesus Christ (Romans 8:1). Therefore our sin has been forgiven and has experienced remission (back to point 1).

6. Jesus being the sufficient sacrifice that He is for all sin, there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Therefore, there is nothing more to do in order for sin to experience remission/forgiveness. Jesus did it.

7. We are justified by faith, not works. We do not earn salvation (saved by grace through faith), we believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins, paying the penalty for our sins (death), and resurrected on the third day for our justification (Romans 5:1, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:5). So forgiveness then is a matter of faith in the Son of God.

8. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin(Hebrews 9:22). Remission occurs through blood shed, the method described in God's word. So what does that make of any method otherwise mentioned?

9. We may enter God's presence boldly, something we could not do if our sin was not forgiven. We would die! The blood of Jesus has made our sins of scarlet as white as snow and we do not have to have reservations going before Him (Hebrews 10:19-22).

10. Seeking forgiveness through anything other than faith in Christ is to trample underfoot the Son of God, considering His blood as common (not able to do that which God says it does; being the same as the blood of bulls and goats that are not able to take away sin) and attempts to find another offering, if you will (see point 6), when there remains no more sacrifice for sins (Hebrews 10:29). We are forgiven through Christ and Him crucified. This is the profession of our faith.

It is for these reasons that we have total forgiveness. We are redeemed and forgiven of all sin. This does not mean we stop repenting, but it does mean that we no longer seek forgiveness from God because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake. We may express gratitude, worship, and praise to the Lord for His mercy and grace. Thank Him for the Gospel, that we are reconciled to God, forgiven, and our sins paid in full by the Son of God, Jesus Christ our Messiah.

Ephesians 4:32 King James Version (KJV)

32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Wait, you have the word confess here, don’t you mean ask forgiveness? Was that a typo?
 

1ofthem

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Maybe you can make a list of why a born again child of God wouldn't feel remorse and repent for sinning. Because I can't
even think of one GOOD reason for not asking forgiveness for sin...

Seems like some people want to make God who they want him to be...Some seem to have the attitude that God does everything we tell him to do, but we don't have to do anything he tells us to do. God is still God. If you want to keep on sinning and not repent then that's up to you. But if you are TRULY saved know that he will chastise you for that.

Also the attitude that there is no sense to ask for forgiveness of sin makes me question if someone is truly saved or not. What born again Christian would not want to repent and ask for forgiveness for sinning. When we are saved God gives us a new heart. He takes away the stony heart. The new heart walks in the Spirit and when and if it don't it will humble down and repent. Sinning and walking against God's ways will sadden the new heart and if it don't then there is something wrong. A heart of stone is a heart that won't feel remorse.

Just my thoughts on this anyhow.
 
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Maybe you can make a list of why a born again child of God wouldn't feel remorse and repent for sinning. Because I can't
even think of one GOOD reason for not asking forgiveness for sin...

Seems like some people want to make God who they want him to be...Some seem to have the attitude that God does everything we tell him to do, but we don't have to do anything he tells us to do. God is still God. If you want to keep on sinning and not repent then that's up to you. But if you are TRULY saved know that he will chastise you for that.

Also the attitude that there is no sense to ask for forgiveness of sin makes me question if someone is truly saved or not. What born again Christian would not want to repent and ask for forgiveness for sinning. When we are saved God gives us a new heart. He takes away the stony heart. The new heart walks in the Spirit and when and if it don't it will humble down and repent. Sinning and walking against God's ways will sadden the new heart and if it don't then there is something wrong. A heart of stone is a heart that won't feel remorse.

Just my thoughts on this anyhow.
frankly, I question this:

This does not mean we stop repenting, but it does mean that we no longer seek forgiveness from God because the Father has forgiven us for Christ's sake
it seems a contradiction

maybe the problem is mine. I was never very good at doublespeak :p
 
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How can repent of something we already repented of. Can someone please answer this?
 
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frankly, I question this:

it seems a contradiction

maybe the problem is mine. I was never very good at doublespeak :p
It is doublespeak that hollows out the word repent and redefines it to mean turning the mind towards an awareness of being perfected. So repenting is not changing one's mind about bad behavior, but changing one's mind to ignore the concept of sin altogether by focusing only on one's righteousness.
 

Chester

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If your thread title was "10 Reasons asking forgiveness for sins is questionable" it would have some validity. I think this is what you meant!?

Confession of sin is always Biblical and right and needed. Confession of sin is agreeing with God about the sin.
 
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It is doublespeak that hollows out the word repent and redefines it to mean turning the mind towards an awareness of being perfected. So repenting is not changing one's mind about bad behavior, but changing one's mind to ignore the concept of sin altogether by focusing only on one's righteousness.
What?????????
 

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3.All sin has been forgiven through Jesus because He is the sacrifice for sin, once and for all (Hebrews 10:10-14).
Ben,

I will address this next, but the first thing to address is the title of this thread:

10 Reasons Sin Confession Is Questionable!!
This statement contradicts Scripture, and whenever you contradict Scripture, it is automatically a red flag. The Scripture being contradicted is this (among others):

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10).

Here is the apostle John telling us plainly that forgiveness of our present sins in CONTINGENT upon our confession of those sins, and there is "apostle Ben" contradicting him. So whom should we believe, and who is clearly in error?

Now, getting back to your other statement: "All sin has been forgiven through Jesus because He is the sacrifice for sin, once and for all"

You have made a blanket statement without qualifying it or properly explaining how sins are forgiven, because you have blocked out the previous Scripture, as well as all the Scriptures that require repentance. In fact you have not even mentioned repentance in the OP. So give this some thought and then qualify what you have stated above as bolded.



 
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Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Confession is us taking responsibility for our sins which we have sinned.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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This is very untrue, and you write this because it seems to me that you do not believe that righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Is this correct?



It is doublespeak that hollows out the word repent and redefines it to mean turning the mind towards an awareness of being perfected. So repenting is not changing one's mind about bad behavior, but changing one's mind to ignore the concept of sin altogether by focusing only on one's righteousness.
 

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Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Confession is us taking responsibility for our sins which we have sinned.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
While the word "confess" is used here, it is not a reference to the confession of sins, but a PROFESSION OF FAITH via a public declaration that Jesus of Nazareth is indeed Lord and Christ, and that the sinner believes this wholeheartedly and receives Christ as Lord and Savior.

Strong's Concordance
homologeó: to speak the same, to agree
Original Word: ὁμολογέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: homologeó
Phonetic Spelling: (hom-ol-og-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I confess, profess, acknowledge, praise
Definition: (a) I promise, agree, (b) I confess, (c) I publicly declare, (d) a Hebraism, I praise, celebrate.

At the same time, sinners confess their sins at the time of conversion, and saints confess their sins at the time that they ask for forgiveness.

SINNERS
And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. (Acts 19:17-19).

SAINTS

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10)
 
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Maybe you can make a list of why a born again child of God wouldn't feel remorse and repent for sinning. Because I can't
even think of one GOOD reason for not asking forgiveness for sin...

Seems like some people want to make God who they want him to be...Some seem to have the attitude that God does everything we tell him to do, but we don't have to do anything he tells us to do. God is still God. If you want to keep on sinning and not repent then that's up to you. But if you are TRULY saved know that he will chastise you for that.

Also the attitude that there is no sense to ask for forgiveness of sin makes me question if someone is truly saved or not. What born again Christian would not want to repent and ask for forgiveness for sinning. When we are saved God gives us a new heart. He takes away the stony heart. The new heart walks in the Spirit and when and if it don't it will humble down and repent. Sinning and walking against God's ways will sadden the new heart and if it don't then there is something wrong. A heart of stone is a heart that won't feel remorse.

Just my thoughts on this anyhow.
Do you mean forgiveness as In the person Is REQUIRED to ask for forgiveness after salvation In order to stay saved or do you mean a person should apologize so to speak to GOD,apologize not to maintain salvation but to let GOD know that they are aware that they messed up and will be ready to revenge that mistake next time?