God's word.

[Dmurray]

I am finding a lot lately that people seem to think that because our society has changed economically and technologically that God's word also has changed.

What is your opinion on this? Should God's word change to suit our lifestyle or should we change our lifestyle to suit his word. After all he is the King of King's, the Lord of Lord's and our Judge.

It is written:

1. "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. " 1 Corinthians 14:33

2. "LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." Psalm 119:89

3. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Timothy 3:16

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1

Last time I checked God doesn't change he is the same today, yesterday, the same from eternities beginning until eternities end.

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

If He is the word, and he is the Beginning and the ending, which is and was and is to come, then why do people think that the Word changes?

[Dmurray]

WOOPS! LOL I VOTED WRONG!!!

LOL, thats funny one David!!!!

David

Hi, I voted that God's word doesn't change but did not feel inclined to post reasons for my vote. The format would not accept a nil return- hence this explanation of this. I did wonder if this is a question which will lead somewhere.
love
edwin

[VW]

God's word does not change. Scripture is what I think you are asking about. Scripture is not Jesus. Jesus is not scripture. Scripture comes from God, it is not God. I know that this seems a strange distinction, but I believe that it is very important that we know this.

[machew]

I don't think the issue is that God's word changes, because God obviously knows what should be said and what shouldn't. God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes. So the issue must be on our side, our interpretation, and often our bias in what we want it to say. Everyone perceives reality and interprets reality through a lens that was developed through each person's past parental figures, mentors, teachers, friends, and other people of influence in their life. When we come to the Bible we come with already existing conclusions, opinions, etc (A bias). Before we've even started reading the book we tend to lean towards a particular interpretation of certain scriptures to match what we've been taught in the past or based on our experience. Only allowing the Holy Spirit to read the Bible to you, and receiving what He says 100%, gets you a 100% correct interpretation, because lots of verses in the Bible can't be fully comprehended with only the mind.

Another issue is that of the acceptance and approval of man. When people are swayed by popular opinion(fear of man), they tend to be more willing to want interpret scriptures in a way that implies that the scriptures change to fit every generation. This in my opinion is not correct. God has already accounted for every generation, as He is outside of time, and said things in the Bible exactly the way that they needed to be said to accommodate every generation. Additionally, the statutes of God have no need for change, as they are perfect. If His Word changes, then it would change from a state of perfection into some other state which would make what He said not perfect. God has no need to change, He is already perfect. The goal is for us to be more like Him, not the other way around.


Blessings,

Machew

Times change. We deal with different issues and different cultures. The literal interpretation of scripture comes down to two steps: What was the human author saying to the origianl audience? Then, what is God saying to us?

No, God's word doesn't change. People change God's word by either taking things out or putting things in.

[Dmurray]

Originally Posted by charisenexcelcis

Times change. We deal with different issues and different cultures. The literal interpretation of scripture comes down to two steps: What was the human author saying to the origianl audience? Then, what is God saying to us?

There is only oneauthor and he is not a Human anymore. He is the Almighty. However there were many writers, but still only one author.

Originally Posted by Dmurray

There is only oneauthor and he is not a Human anymore. He is the Almighty. However there were many writers, but still only one author.

Each human author wrote using their own vocabulary and style and God moved upon them in such a way that the words that they wrote were without error in content. Many human author, One divine author, the end result being the word of God.

I think that some things in the Bible were speaking to people in that time about issues specific to their time and culture, i.e. a woman covering her head, a woman keeping silent in the church. . . Some people today still take these interpretations literally. But in our day and age there are women who preach from the pulpit. Is that wrong according to the Bible? I don't think so. Paul was addressing a certain issue specific to a certain time, place and situation.

I don't think God's Word changes. There are certain absolutes contained in the Word and they don't change, no matter what the time, place, or culture. Like fornication. It is pretty clear what God thinks of it. Adultery, drunkenness, homosexuality. . . people try to say certain things are okay today because of the culture we live in. It comes down to interpretation to discern between something like the way a woman should dress and something like a sexual sin. I think God makes it pretty plain what displeases him.

Then you have the old covenant and the new covenant. There were all kinds of rules and laws for the Jews that were really impossible to keep perfectly. God used it as an example to show mankind that you can't, in and of yourself, save yourself. So laws in the old covenant were replaced with the new, better covenant. Reading the New Testament, things changed somewhat. It was summed up in a word--love. But certain things stayed the same. Certain sins were still viewed by God as sin. So God's Word is the same yesterday, today and forever. I do think society (unsaved especially) likes to pick and choose what they want to adhere to and throw the rest out. Define sin according to their own desires. But God's view does not change.

[resurrection33]

What Jesus said in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John still holds true today.

[arabian_princess]

paul changed te bible after jesus

[Slepsog4]

OBSERVE: what the text actually says
INTERPRET: what it meant to its original readers
APPLICATION: for how it applies to your life and situation

[VW]

Originally Posted by arabian_princess

paul changed te bible after jesus

Actually, there was not a bible before Jesus, it was called something else.

And Paul was not the only writer of the New Testament, there were several.

Originally Posted by Cheers199

No, God's word doesn't change. People change God's word by either taking things out or putting things in.

God does not change and its sad that people only take what they want to here from it in,, Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever !

Originally Posted by Slepsog4

OBSERVE: what the text actually says
INTERPRET: what it meant to its original readers
APPLICATION: for how it applies to your life and situation

Excellent. the word of God is timeless, it speaks to us just as surely as it did thousands of years ago.

[resurrection33]

Originally Posted by arabian_princess

paul changed te bible after jesus

Originally Posted by VW

Actually, there was not a bible before Jesus, it was called something else.

And Paul was not the only writer of the New Testament, there were several.

They didn't know their writings were going to be included in the Bible, did they?

[VW]

Originally Posted by resurrection33

They didn't know their writings were going to be included in the Bible, did they?

No, they did not. What they wrote was passed around and copied and carried from town to town, to be shared.

[livingbygrace]

Originally Posted by Dmurray

WOOPS! LOL I VOTED WRONG!!!

I have found lately that the most important thing is to come before God and ask Him to change me, and to bring me to yield to what he wants from me, and that I may grow to love Him and his precious Son more and more.

We often let things get in the way of this. We become distracted. Could this subject be a distraction for you? You do seem to discuss it a lot. I believe that Jesus is the divine Son of God and that God's Spirit resides in. He has been with God from the beginig. But lets say you are right fro arguments sake and I am wrong on this subject. The only difference it seems to me is that I elevate God the Father above all, including His Son. Do you think that God will be greatly upset witrh me for doing this? I don't

The better discussions are how we can alkl come closer to God for we are all saved if we believe Christ is the Son of the living God, He died for our sins on the cross and that if we repoent of our sin and ask him into our lives as Lord and Saviour, we are saved. So this is not a salvation issue is it? But it can be a divisive one.