The serpents seed?

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The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

To whom exactly is this referring?
 

trofimus

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A tough and good question.

I can imagine various hypothesis, from very strange ones to figurative ones.

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The only example I recall from the Bible would be the unbelieving Jews. Christ said to them that their father is satan.

"Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires."
John 8:44

They killed Christ (but He resurrected after it) and He then sent a destroyer so they ceased to exist as a nation and till today they are spiritually blind and damned much more than most of other nations.
 
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Nehemiah6

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The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

To whom exactly is this referring?
THE SEED OF THE WOMAN = CHRIST

THE SEED OF THE SERPENT = HIS BITTER ENEMIES = "CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL"

IT SHALL BRUISE THY HEAD = CHRIST DESTROYED THE POWER OF THE DEVIL ON THE CROSS

THOU SHALT BRUISE HIS HEEL = THE CRUCIFIXION OF CHRIST VIA HIS ENEMIES
 
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A tough and good question.

I can imagine various hypothesis, from very strange ones to figurative ones.

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The only example I recall from the Bible would be the unbelieving Jews. Christ said to them that their father is satan.

"Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires."
John 8:44

They killed Christ (but He resurrected after it) and He then sent a destroyer so they ceased to exist as a nation and till today they are spiritually blind and damned much more than most of other nations.
I believe that the seed of the serpent are the non-elect, from every tribe, nation, tongue, &c.
 
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It is literal in that snakes lash out often going for the legs ankles etc, people kill them.
The animal which Satan used, a snake, was to crawl on its belly.



It is prophecy as Jesus was going to be born as a human (seed of a woman) and he
would strike a blow to Satan and his seed (demonic) by the death and resurrection.


Interestingly there are other bible verse which refer to cutting off the head or tail in the
bible, also representing destroying Satan’s work but the reference of a snake is
apparent.



Isaiah 9:14-16 NKJV
[14] Therefore the LORD will cut off head and tail from Israel, Palm branch
and bulrush in one day. [15] The elder and honorable, he is the head; The
prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail. [16] For the leaders of this people
cause them to err, And those who are led by them are destroyed.


Being the head or the tail is also used to represent authority or lack of it, in the bible,
depending on the context.
 

OneFaith

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The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

To whom exactly is this referring?
Jesus and Satan. The bruise was the cross. Bruises heal. But if someone crushes someone’s head, their power is gone forever. (Translation should say crush head bruise heel)
 
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After studying a little I think the serpents seed could be in all of us. The natural born sinner, the old us. And the women's seed is the christ in us.

Every human birthed into this world is spiritually contaminated with the seed of Satan. Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

All natural human beings are incompatible with God. Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

God sowed His seed (word seed): Gen 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Satan sowed his seed (word seed): Gen 3:4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"

The spirit beings of type man (Adam) received the seed of Satan and rejected the seed of God. They were spiritually birthed from Satan.

How do we know the Word is the seed? Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.

Satan is the legal owner of the natural man. 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

Good News.

God brought new Seed "her seed". Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus told us that he brought new Seed. Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Every human can now escape from captivity through a new birth. 1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.
 

trofimus

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I believe that the seed of the serpent are the non-elect, from every tribe, nation, tongue, &c.
The question is how are they satan´s seed. If only figuratively or if there is some kind of real connection between them and satan.
 
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After studying a little I think the serpents seed could be in all of us. The natural born sinner, the old us. And the women's seed is the christ in us.

Every human birthed into this world is spiritually contaminated with the seed of Satan. Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

All natural human beings are incompatible with God. Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

God sowed His seed (word seed): Gen 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Satan sowed his seed (word seed): Gen 3:4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"

The spirit beings of type man (Adam) received the seed of Satan and rejected the seed of God. They were spiritually birthed from Satan.

How do we know the Word is the seed? Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.

Satan is the legal owner of the natural man. 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

Good News.

God brought new Seed "her seed". Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus told us that he brought new Seed. Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Every human can now escape from captivity through a new birth. 1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.
You have given this much thought. Do you think that the story of the Garden of Eden was literal or allegory?
 
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The question is how are they satan´s seed. If only figuratively or if there is some kind of real connection between them and satan.

Seeds seem to be words or commandments.


1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

When man was upright and had not sinned it was in respect to the seed of the word subject to a law. In choosing to do the will of the god of this world mankind died mankind having received the corruptible seed.
 
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You have given this much thought. Do you think that the story of the Garden of Eden was literal or allegory?
Literally with a spiritual understanding hidden called the hidden manna in the book of Revelation, or historically true parables which without the Holy Spirit spoke not.
 

posthuman

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what about the antichrist? "the man of sin" ?
 

Zmouth

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The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

To whom exactly is this referring?
If not the serpent then maybe the Boxer? :p

[video=youtube;l3LFML_pxlY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LFML_pxlY[/video]
 
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Seed of woman-->Jesus
Seed of Serpent-->1st beast/Little Horn

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
 
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The question is how are they satan´s seed. If only figuratively or if there is some kind of real connection between them and satan.
Well, its not through intercourse with Eve, as the Serpent Seed doctrine advocates. I think its along the lines that the devil is their father, in a figurative manner. Not literally their father, as the 'SS' doctrines teaches.
 

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The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

To whom exactly is this referring?


There is an old false teacher named Arnold Murray who teaches on the “serpents seeds”. The roots of this doctrine is from White supremacy. One verse in Genesis created a race of people from the devil. What a bunch of skubala.

Read :
The Lord God said to the serpent, “1 Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you will go, and dust you will eat all the days of your life; And 2 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and 3 between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15



1. What did he do? The serpent beguiled the women how did he do it? The serpent did not have sex with the women he spoke to her or sown seeds of doubt, pride, and disobedience
2. What is enmity? Something what will be hostel to another




3. What is the seed? The seed is contrast between God and the devil; God saved , the devil kills, God is truth, the devil is a liar.
 

Didymous

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It is literal in that snakes lash out often going for the legs ankles etc, people kill them.
The animal which Satan used, a snake, was to crawl on its belly.



It is prophecy as Jesus was going to be born as a human (seed of a woman) and he
would strike a blow to Satan and his seed (demonic) by the death and resurrection.


Interestingly there are other bible verse which refer to cutting off the head or tail in the
bible, also representing destroying Satan’s work but the reference of a snake is
apparent.



Isaiah 9:14-16 NKJV
[14] Therefore the LORD will cut off head and tail from Israel, Palm branch
and bulrush in one day. [15] The elder and honorable, he is the head; The
prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail. [16] For the leaders of this people
cause them to err, And those who are led by them are destroyed.


Being the head or the tail is also used to represent authority or lack of it, in the bible,
depending on the context.
Another verse of interest is the one after the ones the devil quoted during the time Jesus was tempted in the wilderness. Psalm 91:13
 

Johnny_B

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The question is how are they satan´s seed. If only figuratively or if there is some kind of real connection between them and satan.

Ephesians 2:1-3 “And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.”

Or the none elect.