Do You Bank on the Bible as True?

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Blain

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Thread: Do You Bank on the Bible as True?

Yes, I believe the Bible I use is true and others are false. I'm just responding to the thread. I am passionate about the word of God. I will not apologize for that.

I have responded to others threads, not just about the Bible version issue.
If your passionate about the word of God you might want to stop attacking it. just because you like a certain version of it doesn't mean you have to attack other versions of it. And honestly the whole kjv vs other versions had nothing to do with the thread and you know that, if you want to do that make your own thread
 
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Everything in the bible is truthfully stated but not everything in the bible is a statement of truth. Cain killed his brother Abel but that does not mean that God condones murder.
Good point. I also think, "Am I my brother's keeper," is pure crap too. Yes! Yes he was.

A lot of people take what really is in the Bible, but said by people, not by God, and try and twist it into their own little pearls of wisdom, when all along it was just stuff people said as excuses, bad advice, or to a certain people on a certain day about something in particular. And in doing that, they then rally with, "This is what God's words say."

It happens often on here.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why just 66? Why not less? Why not more?
Because 66 books comprise the biblical CANON -- divinely inspired therefore the Word of God.

You are free to read any other books you wish but you dare not call any other books inspired.
 

CS1

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How many Books are the infallible, inerrant Word of G-d? There are 66 of them that make up the Bible. How many do you believe are G-d breathed? Talken' creation 6 days Genesis all the way to Revelation and if you alter one word.... all the plagues in the Book will be cast upon you.....



Is all Scripture the word of G-d? If not what parts should I believe? If not how do you choose what is? If parts are dead, I think some might say; did G-d die? Or is His Word not Him, alive, so it died but He did not?


I ask these questions because I want to understand how people think.... I honestly don't get anyone not believing the all 66 Books are alive, sharper than a two edged sword dividing the soul and marrow.....

I believe the Bible to be the word of God, and without error. I believe both Old and New Testament are inspired by God.

Why do I believe this? Because I have faith in what we do know of God from the very word that has not been controversial; in orthodox Christianity.


That God is:

  • Truth
  • Holy
  • All knowing
  • All present
  • All powerful
  • Unchanging
  • Loving

This is the foundational TRUTH of God from what we have learned from the word of God from the Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic Languages BY the Holy Spirit and our Lord Jesus who saved us.. IF we have Faith in the Attributes of God Then we should know HE is more than able to speak to us in the kjv, nkjv, niv, the nasb, nlt, amp, living, and God is Able to KEEP HIS word no matter what Man try’s to do in silencing the Word of God.

Anyone who trusted Jesus for salvation, had to hear the Word of God. No Man Can change what God has done. God is able to send His word and over see it. I have faith in the God I serve, and know He will not fail.
 
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Thread: Do You Bank on the Bible as True?

Yes, I believe the Bible I use is true and others are false. I'm just responding to the thread. I am passionate about the word of God. I will not apologize for that.

I have responded to others threads, not just about the Bible version issue.
Hail! Hail, 1611! Because before 1611, no one but no one knew God's word.

Hail, Hail, Elizabethan English! Because if you don't know it, and know it through the KJV, you can not be saved!


 

Enoch987

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Would you at least admit that the NASB is a false witness?

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

Btw, notice the title of the thread. I did not come up with this thread, just responded. Don't I have that right? I would hope that if you believed you had the preserved word of God, you would stand up for it as well.[/QUOTE/]

I think the NASB and all modern translations translate from the earliest known manuscripts while I know the King James translates from the Textus Receptus which was changed to support the Christian Creeds.
The Evidence;
See Luke 9:35 God said, "This is my chosen Son" in the modern bibles but "This is my beloved Son" in the King James
James 5:4 sabaoth means host but if we knew there was a Lord of hosts we would also find there is a Lord God of hosts in the Old Testament but the Creeds argue for equality between Father and Son and we can't have that so the Hebrew word for hosts is used. (The King James reference Bible explains this.)
Revelation 1:8 and 1:11, Jesus is the Lord Almighty (that is in Corinthians) while God the Father is the Lord God Almighty.
The King James Reference Bible says the Majority Text has that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega in most manuscripts at the end of Revelation but not in the first three chapters.
John 5:7, Father, Son and Holy Spirit is not in the earliest manuscripts, inserted because the Holy Spirit is a neuter noun like "water and blood and Spirit in one accord "in the following verse, the person that added the verse wanted to emphasize the Holy Spirit is a person not a thing like water or blood.
So even though most Christians have been taught in interpret the Bible according to the Creeds, the modern Bibles translate from the earliest manuscripts without apology.
The King James Bible support the Christian Creeds which is a good place to start understanding but know they were written to defeat Arius and when one argues to win, the truth can get muddied.
Now prove my facts before arguing with my conclusions.
 

Didymous

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The two older, more reliable texts(codex vaticanus, codex sinaticus), blah blah blah......
 

OneFaith

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How many Books are the infallible, inerrant Word of G-d? There are 66 of them that make up the Bible. How many do you believe are G-d breathed? Talken' creation 6 days Genesis all the way to Revelation and if you alter one word.... all the plagues in the Book will be cast upon you.....



Is all Scripture the word of G-d? If not what parts should I believe? If not how do you choose what is? If parts are dead, I think some might say; did G-d die? Or is His Word not Him, alive, so it died but He did not?


I ask these questions because I want to understand how people think.... I honestly don't get anyone not believing the all 66 Books are alive, sharper than a two edged sword dividing the soul and marrow.....


We know that the old testament is scripture because Jesus quoted from every book except Song of Solomon- which was found among most ancient copies of the bible. We know the new testament is scripture because Jesus commanded the apostles to write down all that He commanded them to, then He Himself said it was finished. You can't fake scripture anyways. Unlike man-made writings, it is flawless, true, and matches perfectly to all other scriptures within itself.
 

tanakh

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The core truth in the Bible is spiritual not literal. There are different levels of understanding. I once knew a person who insisted that the characters in the Parables were actual individuals and had we been there Jesus could have introduced us to the Good Samaritan, The woman who found the lost coin the sower and all the rest.
 

tanakh

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Hail! Hail, 1611! Because before 1611, no one but no one knew God's word.

Hail, Hail, Elizabethan English! Because if you don't know it, and know it through the KJV, you can not be saved!


Not just before 1611 but now! That's what I hate about the whole KJV business . It infers that everyone who doesnt read and study from the KJV is not completely Christian so that condemns everyone else.
 

Didymous

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I've had 1611 KJV, and they were very hard to understand, because of the gothic font. I'm quite satisfied with the 1679 KJV, and the Roman font.
 

Joseppi

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I was lost when God showed me his love, and put his Holy Bible in my hand to read. I asked a man where to begin reading in it and he said to start with the Gospel of John. By the time I came to John 3:16 I knew the book was true and that I could trust Jesus. When I read “ whosoever” I realized that I am a whosoever. I have never had need to turn to any other book for the truth of God.

Back then there weren’t a bunch of people going around in churches claiming that if I believe the Holy Bible is God’s written word then I must be a cult member.

I love and utterly trust the text of the Holy Bible and view all other bible versions as inaccurate, corrupted, weak, ineffective, and not used of God. And I know others like the phony bibles but, I don’t.

So, living in the world today forces me to listen to the corrupt quotes out of modern bibles. But I compare what the phony bibles say with the Authorized and keep their corruption out of my mind as best I can.

It is my belief that the modernized false bibles produce the lamps without oil in the parable of the ten virgins. Without the words of the true and authorized Holy Bible of God I believe many will be deceived and fall away from the faith and perish. If Jesus’ word isn’t abiding in your heart you don’t know Jesus and when he returns he won’t know you so, take heed.

If two bibles are true they will agree with one another and they will agree internally as well,
 
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I was lost when God showed me his love, and put his Holy Bible in my hand to read. I asked a man where to begin reading in it and he said to start with the Gospel of John. By the time I came to John 3:16 I knew the book was true and that I could trust Jesus. When I read “ whosoever” I realized that I am a whosoever. I have never had need to turn to any other book for the truth of God.

Back then there weren’t a bunch of people going around in churches claiming that if I believe the Holy Bible is God’s written word then I must be a cult member.

I love and utterly trust the text of the Holy Bible and view all other bible versions as inaccurate, corrupted, weak, ineffective, and not used of God. And I know others like the phony bibles but, I don’t.

So, living in the world today forces me to listen to the corrupt quotes out of modern bibles. But I compare what the phony bibles say with the Authorized and keep their corruption out of my mind as best I can.

It is my belief that the modernized false bibles produce the lamps without oil in the parable of the ten virgins. Without the words of the true and authorized Holy Bible of God I believe many will be deceived and fall away from the faith and perish. If Jesus’ word isn’t abiding in your heart you don’t know Jesus and when he returns he won’t know you so, take heed.

If two bibles are true they will agree with one another and they will agree internally as well,
Has someone held you captive? How is it possible to become indoctrinated to this level in the free world?

If you believe the Holy Bible you believe it in any language it's translated to including modern English. The rest of the things you have expressed in your post are very definitely cultish in nature. The statements you have made here regarding other translations are not backed up by the KJB itself. You go so far as to claim Christians who read other than King James English will be denied by Jesus. That is bizarre and warped thinking.
 

trofimus

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Because 66 books comprise the biblical CANON -- divinely inspired therefore the Word of God.

You are free to read any other books you wish but you dare not call any other books inspired.
Why do you trust canon established by (mostly) unbelieving Jews?
 
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NayborBear

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There is enough information in any of the myriad of translations of the canonized 66 books, for the believer to gain Everlasting life. If this is what the believer wants? Then, it's there! That being said, a mention should be made of the difference between everlasting, which, in the context of eternity, is from (an) Earth/Heaven "ages", to the next "earth/heaven" age(s).


 

trofimus

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There is enough information in any of the myriad of translations of the canonized 66 books, for the believer to gain Everlasting life. If this is what the believer wants? Then, it's there! That being said, a mention should be made of the difference between everlasting, which, in the context of eternity, is from (an) Earth/Heaven "ages", to the next "earth/heaven" age(s).


Is there not enough information in 1 or 5 or 10 of Bible books to gain everlasting life?
 

Nehemiah6

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Why do you trust canon established by (mostly) unbelieving Jews?
Sez who? Christ established and confirmed the Hebrew canon, Peter confirmed over half the NT canon, and called his own epistles inspired. Luke called his Gospel inspired, as did John for both his Gospel and Revelation. The other books bear internal testimony to their canonicity, and the Holy Spirit confirms that. The Apocrypha is EXCLUDED.
 

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Every translation will have its errors. You better have the Holy Spirit to lead you through the scriptures. That makes the difference. God can help you over the errors and lead you to the truth He wants you to have. Does anyone have all truth? I don't think so. God is going to give His glory to no one. If you think you have all the truth, you won't be open to learning.

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trofimus

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Sez who? Christ established and confirmed the Hebrew canon, Peter confirmed over half the NT canon, and called his own epistles inspired. Luke called his Gospel inspired, as did John for both his Gospel and Revelation. The other books bear internal testimony to their canonicity, and the Holy Spirit confirms that. The Apocrypha is EXCLUDED.
Thats just your wish.