Mary and Joseph,who is who?(concerning Jesus)

[joefizz]

Ok I keep seeming to get my 13 sized shoe(my actual shoe size) jammed in my mouth so to speak so I'd like to discuss about the names of Joseph and Mary pertaining to Jesus(as his father mother,disciple and so on) because for the longest noone has "clarified" to me who is who and so I presumed Mary and Joseph to later be called Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea.
Twice I have been corrected and so due to this I'd like a thorough analysis or all around genera idea of who each person was and how they pertained to Jesus and if there is a way to "remember" the difference between them.
Thank you in advance to everyone it's somewhat "embarrassing" that I never noticed any differentiation.

 

[maxwel]

Mary the mother of Jesus is usually called... Mary the mother of Jesus.

Joseph the father is Jesus is usually called... not anything after the early portions of the gospels; he isn't mentioned.
He isn't talked about after Jesus begins his public ministry; most scholars assume he died before then.

 

[Laish]

Ok I remember a list of the women called Mary in the New Testament. I could not find the one I saw before but came across this one for ya .
How many Mary’s are there in the Bible?




The following are the ones listed in the New Testament.
One encyclopedia list the following:
1. Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 1-2).
2. Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons. The name Magdalene indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers. Luke 7:37, Luke 8:23, Luke 87:36-50
3. Mary of Bethany, sister of Martha and Lazarus (Luke 10:38-42).
4. Mary, the mother of the disciple James and Joses (Matt 27:55-61).
5. Mary, the mother of John Mark (Acts 12:12).
6. Mary of Rome (Rom 16:6).
Another encyclopedia lists the following.
The Name Mary in the New Testament:
The name Mary occurs in 51 passages of the New Testament to which the following group of articles is confined. Collating all these references we have the following apparent notes of identification:
(a) Mary, the mother of Jesus;
(b) Mary Magdalene;
(c) Mary, the mother of James;
(d) Mary, the mother of Joses;
(e) Mary, the wife of Clopas;
(f) Mary of Bethany;
(g) Mary, the mother of Mark;
(h) Mary of Rome;
(i) the “other” Mary.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright (c)1996 by Biblesoft)
MARY
The Mother of Jesus. Mary was the daughter of Eli or Heli, of the tribe of Judah and of the lineage of David, hence in the royal line (Luke 3:23).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary Magdale’ne (mag-da-le’ne, or commonly mag’da-len; “of Magdala”).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Sister of Lazarus. The facts about her are few. She and her sister Martha appear in Luke 10:38-42 receiving Christ in their house.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, the Wife of Clopas (Grk. Maria he tou Klopa, KJV “of Cleophas”). In John’s gospel we read that “there were standing by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene” (John 19:25).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Mother of Mark. Also sister to Barnabas (cf. Col 4:10). It would appear from Acts 4:37 and 12:12 that while the brother disposed of his property for the benefit of the church, the sister gave up her house as one of the places of meeting.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)

I hope this helps I will check out Joseph for ya and post later.
Blessings
Bill

 

[Bladerunner]

Ok I keep seeming to get my 13 sized shoe(my actual shoe size) jammed in my mouth so to speak so I'd like to discuss about the names of Joseph and Mary pertaining to Jesus(as his father mother,disciple and so on) because for the longest noone has "clarified" to me who is who and so I presumed Mary and Joseph to later be called Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea.
Twice I have been corrected and so due to this I'd like a thorough analysis or all around genera idea of who each person was and how they pertained to Jesus and if there is a way to "remember" the difference between them.
Thank you in advance to everyone it's somewhat "embarrassing" that I never noticed any differentiation.

Three Marys and two Josephs. One was father and mother... One was Magdalene, one was a sister, and one was a an"an honourable counsellor" or a "prominent council member", who talked to Pilate and ask for Jesus's body.

 

[Bladerunner]

Mary the mother of Jesus is usually called... Mary the mother of Jesus.

Joseph the father is Jesus is usually called... not anything after the early portions of the gospels; he isn't mentioned.
He isn't talked about after Jesus begins his public ministry; most scholars assume he died before then.

I agree but Joseph was spoken of as the father of Jesus' half siblings
.

 

[Didymous]

Ok I remember a list of the women called Mary in the New Testament. I could not find the one I saw before but came across this one for ya .
How many Mary’s are there in the Bible?




The following are the ones listed in the New Testament.
One encyclopedia list the following:
1. Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 1-2).
2. Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons. The name Magdalene indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers. Luke 7:37, Luke 8:23, Luke 87:36-50
3. Mary of Bethany, sister of Martha and Lazarus (Luke 10:38-42).
4. Mary, the mother of the disciple James and Joses (Matt 27:55-61).
5. Mary, the mother of John Mark (Acts 12:12).
6. Mary of Rome (Rom 16:6).
Another encyclopedia lists the following.
The Name Mary in the New Testament:
The name Mary occurs in 51 passages of the New Testament to which the following group of articles is confined. Collating all these references we have the following apparent notes of identification:
(a) Mary, the mother of Jesus;
(b) Mary Magdalene;
(c) Mary, the mother of James;
(d) Mary, the mother of Joses;
(e) Mary, the wife of Clopas;
(f) Mary of Bethany;
(g) Mary, the mother of Mark;
(h) Mary of Rome;
(i) the “other” Mary.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright (c)1996 by Biblesoft)
MARY
The Mother of Jesus. Mary was the daughter of Eli or Heli, of the tribe of Judah and of the lineage of David, hence in the royal line (Luke 3:23).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary Magdale’ne (mag-da-le’ne, or commonly mag’da-len; “of Magdala”).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Sister of Lazarus. The facts about her are few. She and her sister Martha appear in Luke 10:38-42 receiving Christ in their house.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, the Wife of Clopas (Grk. Maria he tou Klopa, KJV “of Cleophas”). In John’s gospel we read that “there were standing by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene” (John 19:25).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Mother of Mark. Also sister to Barnabas (cf. Col 4:10). It would appear from Acts 4:37 and 12:12 that while the brother disposed of his property for the benefit of the church, the sister gave up her house as one of the places of meeting.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)

I hope this helps I will check out Joseph for ya and post later.
Blessings
Bill

You can see the lineage of Joseph at the beginning of Matthew.

 

[Depleted]

Ok I keep seeming to get my 13 sized shoe(my actual shoe size) jammed in my mouth so to speak so I'd like to discuss about the names of Joseph and Mary pertaining to Jesus(as his father mother,disciple and so on) because for the longest noone has "clarified" to me who is who and so I presumed Mary and Joseph to later be called Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea.
Twice I have been corrected and so due to this I'd like a thorough analysis or all around genera idea of who each person was and how they pertained to Jesus and if there is a way to "remember" the difference between them.
Thank you in advance to everyone it's somewhat "embarrassing" that I never noticed any differentiation.

First, yay! I've got little feet compared to you. (Only size 10 -- in men's shoes.) I feel so dainty right now.

Second, why not just google this?

Mary seems to have been a common name back then. There was Mary, Jesus's mom. Mary, sister to Martha and Lazarus. Mary Madeline. And, quite possibly, a 4th Mary, although can't remember how she was connected. (Read that a long time ago about figuring out who was whom at Jesus' empty tomb. Just can't remember who that Mary was.)

And Joseph? Some good hints Joseph, Jesus' dad, wasn't that Joseph. The family never got rich, so how would they have a tomb paid for? And, if Joseph was still alive, why wasn't he at his son's death, but just happened to have a tomb lined up?

Mostly, you can really check this out on Google.
Joseph of Arimathea
Mary Magdalene
Mary and Joseph

 

[joefizz]

Mary the mother of Jesus is usually called... Mary the mother of Jesus.

Joseph the father is Jesus is usually called... not anything after the early portions of the gospels; he isn't mentioned.
He isn't talked about after Jesus begins his public ministry; most scholars assume he died before then.

Thanks,probably the reason I got him mixed up with the arimathea Joseph,because my thought process was that his father would ask for his body,not someone else,but that's what I get for thinking lol.

 

[Didymous]

Don't be embarrassed, Joe. We all have to study the Bible to begin to know it. In 12 years I've barely scratched the surface.

 

[joefizz]

Ok I remember a list of the women called Mary in the New Testament. I could not find the one I saw before but came across this one for ya .
How many Mary’s are there in the Bible?




The following are the ones listed in the New Testament.
One encyclopedia list the following:
1. Mary, the mother of Jesus (Luke 1-2).
2. Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons. The name Magdalene indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers. Luke 7:37, Luke 8:23, Luke 87:36-50
3. Mary of Bethany, sister of Martha and Lazarus (Luke 10:38-42).
4. Mary, the mother of the disciple James and Joses (Matt 27:55-61).
5. Mary, the mother of John Mark (Acts 12:12).
6. Mary of Rome (Rom 16:6).
Another encyclopedia lists the following.
The Name Mary in the New Testament:
The name Mary occurs in 51 passages of the New Testament to which the following group of articles is confined. Collating all these references we have the following apparent notes of identification:
(a) Mary, the mother of Jesus;
(b) Mary Magdalene;
(c) Mary, the mother of James;
(d) Mary, the mother of Joses;
(e) Mary, the wife of Clopas;
(f) Mary of Bethany;
(g) Mary, the mother of Mark;
(h) Mary of Rome;
(i) the “other” Mary.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright (c)1996 by Biblesoft)
MARY
The Mother of Jesus. Mary was the daughter of Eli or Heli, of the tribe of Judah and of the lineage of David, hence in the royal line (Luke 3:23).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary Magdale’ne (mag-da-le’ne, or commonly mag’da-len; “of Magdala”).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Sister of Lazarus. The facts about her are few. She and her sister Martha appear in Luke 10:38-42 receiving Christ in their house.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, the Wife of Clopas (Grk. Maria he tou Klopa, KJV “of Cleophas”). In John’s gospel we read that “there were standing by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene” (John 19:25).
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
MARY
Mary, Mother of Mark. Also sister to Barnabas (cf. Col 4:10). It would appear from Acts 4:37 and 12:12 that while the brother disposed of his property for the benefit of the church, the sister gave up her house as one of the places of meeting.
(From The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)

I hope this helps I will check out Joseph for ya and post later.
Blessings
Bill

Thanks,I'm bookmarking this thread to review,assuming it doesn't get deleted during server maintenance.

 

[Laish]

Yea and as for Joseph. Well the others I agree with only two I can see in the NT bro .
I just wanted to be sure.
Blessings
Bill

 

[joefizz]

First, yay! I've got little feet compared to you. (Only size 10 -- in men's shoes.) I feel so dainty right now.

Second, why not just google this?

Mary seems to have been a common name back then. There was Mary, Jesus's mom. Mary, sister to Martha and Lazarus. Mary Madeline. And, quite possibly, a 4th Mary, although can't remember how she was connected. (Read that a long time ago about figuring out who was whom at Jesus' empty tomb. Just can't remember who that Mary was.)

And Joseph? Some good hints Joseph, Jesus' dad, wasn't that Joseph. The family never got rich, so how would they have a tomb paid for? And, if Joseph was still alive, why wasn't he at his son's death, but just happened to have a tomb lined up?

Mostly, you can really check this out on Google.
Joseph of Arimathea
Mary Magdalene
Mary and Joseph

1.Glad you feel great
2.I don't trust google concerning important information
3.This is a Christian Chat forum so I figured I'd get more substantial and "accurate" answers here as opposed to a search engine with randomized answers for each typed word or topic

 

[Magenta]

Mary, the mother of Jesus.

Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus' sister. She sat at Jesus’ feet, listening to His words. When her sister Martha complained, Jesus basically said, “Only one thing is needed. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.” (Luke 10:42)

Some believe this to be the Mary who poured a pint of pure
nard on Jesus’ feet, and then she wiped them with her hair.

Mary Magdalene had seven demons when Jesus cured her. She followed Jesus in his ministry and helped support him out of her own means. When Jesus was crucified, she was at cross. She went to the grave early Sunday morning to anoint Jesus’ body. She was the first one to meet the resurrected Jesus, and was the first to testify of His resurrection. Jesus sent her to do so.

Mary, the mother of James and Joses, served Jesus in Galilee and followed him to Jerusalem. She was at the grave and she went to anoint his body. The Bible says of her that she “had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for his needs” (Matt 27:55).

Mary the wife of Clopas, was one of the few at the cross (John 19:25).

Mary the mother of John, also called Mark (Acts 12:12).

Mary from Rome. In Romans 16:6 Paul writes: “Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you.”

 

[Didymous]

First, yay! I've got little feet compared to you. (Only size 10 -- in men's shoes.) I feel so dainty right now.

Second, why not just google this?

Mary seems to have been a common name back then. There was Mary, Jesus's mom. Mary, sister to Martha and Lazarus. Mary Madeline. And, quite possibly, a 4th Mary, although can't remember how she was connected. (Read that a long time ago about figuring out who was whom at Jesus' empty tomb. Just can't remember who that Mary was.)

And Joseph? Some good hints Joseph, Jesus' dad, wasn't that Joseph. The family never got rich, so how would they have a tomb paid for? And, if Joseph was still alive, why wasn't he at his son's death, but just happened to have a tomb lined up?

Mostly, you can really check this out on Google.
Joseph of Arimathea
Mary Magdalene
Mary and Joseph

My old boss, who passed away last year, always said,"you need a bigger foundation for a church than you do for an outhouse."(no offense to those with little feet).

 

[joefizz]

Don't be embarrassed, Joe. We all have to study the Bible to begin to know it. In 12 years I've barely scratched the surface.

Yeah I know it's just frustrating because I thought I had these details figured out but oh well once again God's word proves to be quite complex I thought Numbers was the toughest I had to think on,but well back to the drawing board.

 

[joefizz]

My old boss, who passed away last year, always said,"you need a bigger foundation for a church than you do for an outhouse."(no offense to those with little feet).

And you share this with such glee and now to see the result of that comment lol!(waits to see who responds to diddy's post)

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Thanks,probably the reason I got him mixed up with the arimathea Joseph,because my thought process was that his father would ask for his body,not someone else,but that's what I get for thinking lol.

Joseph the husband of Mary was from Bethlehem (Luke 2:4). He was a carpenter (Matt 13:55).


Joseph of Arimathaea was a rich man from Arimathaea (Matt 27:57). He was an honorable counsellor (Mark 15:43). He was a disciple of Jesus (John 19:38).


It might be that Joseph, the husband of Mary, had passed away before the crucifixion. I say this because as Jesus hung on the cross, he called out to Mary and the disciple whom he loved Woman, behold thy son! Then saith He to the disciple Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple booker her into his own home (John 19:26-27).


That may be why Joseph of Arimathaea asked for the body.

 

[Lewiz]

Nothing is known of Joseph other than he was dead sometime before Jesus' ministry ended.

John 19:25 But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27Then He said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.

You see, Jesus, being the first born son & double-portion heir, had authority to determine who would take care of His mother after his death, because she was already a widow. Jesus was responsible to take care of her, so he had the authority to pass the responsibility to John.

Why he did though is a mystery, because he still had 4 brothers.

 

[joefizz]

Joseph the husband of Mary was from Bethlehem (Luke 2:4). He was a carpenter (Matt 13:55).


Joseph of Arimathaea was a rich man from Arimathaea (Matt 27:57). He was an honorable counsellor (Mark 15:43). He was a disciple of Jesus (John 19:38).


It might be that Joseph, the husband of Mary, had passed away before the crucifixion. I say this because as Jesus hung on the cross, he called out to Mary and the disciple whom he loved Woman, behold thy son! Then saith He to the disciple Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple booker her into his own home (John 19:26-27).


That may be why Joseph of Arimathaea asked for the body.

Interesting assessment and thanks for the correction earlier,it's always good to know that someone knows their bible and can accurately call someone out on a mistake,I respect that.

 

[Lewiz]

Sorry, RDBD, I didn't see your post.