Does Jesus’ Two Great Commandments Hold us to Judaic Law?

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newton3003

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Jesus in Matthew 37-40 says, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

How is this applied to Judaic law? We have an example in the Scriptures that deals with the second commandment: Romans 13:8-10 says, “Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, ‘You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,’ and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”

But under the same principle, what laws would be fulfilled by loving God with all our heart, soul and mind? What commandments would be fulfilled, and to what extent? Consider 2 JOHN 5-6 which says, “And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it.” What commandments are referred to here?

If 2 JOHN 5-6 refers to the Ten commandments, then consider that the first commandment, EXODUS 20:2-3 which says, “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me.” Right. And what is God’s relationship to us? It is that we look to Him for our well-being, but that doesn’t come for nothing since He has made demands on us, in the form of the 400 some-odd Laws we see in the Pentateuch.

Jesus didn’t come to overturn the Law. He says in Matthew 5:17-20, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

What “commandments” does Jesus refer to? Whether he refers to his two great commandments, or he is referring to the Ten commandments, we have to consider the First Commandment of God and the first great commandment of Jesus.

Except for Jesus, nobody is capable of fulfilling every Law in the Pentateuch. And JAMES 2: 10 warns us that “Whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” But to the extent that we can’t fulfill all the Laws, the Bible says that God may forgive us if we ask for His forgiveness.

How does HEBREWS 6:1, which says “…let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God…” fit into all of this? Some have interpreted this passage to mean that we shouldn’t just be stuck with going through the motions of abiding by whatever commandments are represented by Jesus, but that we should GO BEYOND by loving God and eachother in spirit as well as in deed. In that sense, Romans 7:6 says “But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.”

Some may say that abiding by the “written code” addresses man’s interaction with eachother, since only God knows what is in our hearts. Perhaps the day may come when abiding by the two great commandments of Jesus comes naturally, without need of a second thought. Until then, as we live on earth, I tell you we need divine direction via the Laws, that we can wrap around and carry out with our earthly minds.
 

Joidevivre

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It isn't divine direction via the Laws that we need to be able to love.

We need to fully receive the Holy Spirit in ourselves (give over ourselves to Him), and then first receive His love for us. To be able to surrender to it, be healed by it, be nurtured by it - and then we can love not only God more completely, but others.
 

Redeemed2015

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Jesus in Matthew 37-40 says, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
Messiah is directly quoting Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. This isn't anything new, Messiah is citing the Law of G-D.


How is this applied to Judaic law?
I'm gonna be honest, when you say "Judaic law" I don't know what you are talking about. Are you referring to the 612 Commandments found in the Torah(Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy), or are you referring to the Oral Traditions of what is now called the Talmud? Because there is a major difference between the two.

The Torah/Law applies to everyone, especially to those in Covenant with G-D.
And the Talmud is man-made, contrary to the Torah and condemned by Messiah time and time again as He teaches against the "Commandments of men" being over the "Commandments of G-D."

Here is the kicker, The Latter is the only one with Jewish roots.
The former, the Torah is not Judaic, is not Jewish, is not for the just the Jews, but applied not only to ALL of Israel(all 12 Tribes) but also to sojourners and strangers among them. As the scriptures tell us, "There is one law for the native born and the strangers among you." -Leviticus 24:22 and Exodus 12:49

So, being that Messiah is citing the Torah, I would say that these verse hold bearing as to the heart of the Law; being that each commandment that is given falls into 2 categories: Loving G-D and Loving others.

The real question is: how are we supposed to love?
1 John 5:3 - "For this is the love of G-D, that you keep my commandments; and my commandments are not burdensome."
John 14:15 - "If you love Me, keep my commandments."
John 13:23 - "If anyone loves me, he will keep my commandments. My Father will love him and we will come and make our dwelling with him."

The word Torah is loosely translated as "Law" but directly translates as "Instructions". The Instructions of G-D as to how we are to love HIM and how we are to love our neighbor.

Many will suggest that myself and others are teaching a "works-based" salvation. But as I have stated countless times, I do no believe or teach such a doctrine! Salvation is by grace through faith, just as the Epistles teach and just as the scriptures bear witness. One does not obey the commandments of G-D in order to achieve Salvation, one obeys the commandments of G-D BECAUSE one has salvation, and because one loves G-D as well as his neighbor.

Messiah came and taught the Torah. He lived by the Torah. He is our example. Are we not told to walk just as He walked?
(1 John 2:6)

Messiah even declares such when He tells us: "I did not come bringing my own doctrine, but the doctrine of the one who has sent me."(John 7:16 and John 12:49)

Messiah's message was simple: Obey the Commandments, this is how we are to love both G-D and our Neighbor.
 

Studyman

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Jesus in Matthew 37-40 says, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

How is this applied to Judaic law? We have an example in the Scriptures that deals with the second commandment: Romans 13:8-10 says, “Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, ‘You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,’ and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”

But under the same principle, what laws would be fulfilled by loving God with all our heart, soul and mind? What commandments would be fulfilled, and to what extent? Consider 2 JOHN 5-6 which says, “And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it.” What commandments are referred to here?

If 2 JOHN 5-6 refers to the Ten commandments, then consider that the first commandment, EXODUS 20:2-3 which says, “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me.” Right. And what is God’s relationship to us? It is that we look to Him for our well-being, but that doesn’t come for nothing since He has made demands on us, in the form of the 400 some-odd Laws we see in the Pentateuch.

Jesus didn’t come to overturn the Law. He says in Matthew 5:17-20, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

What “commandments” does Jesus refer to? Whether he refers to his two great commandments, or he is referring to the Ten commandments, we have to consider the First Commandment of God and the first great commandment of Jesus.

Except for Jesus, nobody is capable of fulfilling every Law in the Pentateuch. And JAMES 2: 10 warns us that “Whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” But to the extent that we can’t fulfill all the Laws, the Bible says that God may forgive us if we ask for His forgiveness.

How does HEBREWS 6:1, which says “…let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God…” fit into all of this? Some have interpreted this passage to mean that we shouldn’t just be stuck with going through the motions of abiding by whatever commandments are represented by Jesus, but that we should GO BEYOND by loving God and eachother in spirit as well as in deed. In that sense, Romans 7:6 says “But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.”

Some may say that abiding by the “written code” addresses man’s interaction with eachother, since only God knows what is in our hearts. Perhaps the day may come when abiding by the two great commandments of Jesus comes naturally, without need of a second thought. Until then, as we live on earth, I tell you we need divine direction via the Laws, that we can wrap around and carry out with our earthly minds.
Very nice. How can I know how to properly Love God unless I learn how from Him. How can I learn to properly Love my neighbor unless I learn from Him?

In my opinion this is why Jesus said "On these two hang all the Law and Prophets" and why Paul said regarding the Old Testament.

1 Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

I believe we learn through study of these examples.

Good topic:)
 
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What “commandments” does Jesus refer to? Whether he refers to his two great commandments, or he is referring to the Ten commandments, we have to consider the First Commandment of God and the first great commandment of Jesus.
Everything he said. His words subsume the law of Moses.
 

Grandpa

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It holds you to Judaic Law until you come to the Lord Jesus to relieve you of that burden.

Matthew 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Galatians 3:24-25
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death
 

Dan58

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Jesus in Matthew 37-40 says, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

How is this applied to Judaic law?

I believe Jesus summarized the purpose of the 10 commandments with the 2 greatest commandments. The greatest commandment encapsulated the first 5, and the second greatest commandment is contained in the second five.
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts" (Hebrews 8:10).

The important word added was "love". We keep the laws when we love God and love others. Prior to Christ, people tried to obey the letter of the law, but Christ explained and demonstrated the spirit of the law.

I suspect that the problem with the Pharisees (religion), was that it observed the law but missed the point. They might beat a person half to death but believed they still kept the commandment "Thou shalt not kill". But as Jesus explained, even the desire to commit adultery (or kill someone) was breaking the spirit of the law, because a persons heart was in the wrong place. We keep his commandments because we love them, and not out of some loveless obligation.
 

Zmouth

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Many will suggest that myself and others are teaching a "works-based" salvation. But as I have stated countless times, I do no believe or teach such a doctrine! Salvation is by grace through faith, just as the Epistles teach and just as the scriptures bear witness.

For he that cometh to God must believe he is. (See Hebrew 11:6) If a person cannot come to God unless they believe he is, then if salvation is by grace through faith then how does a person who does not believe in God come to him?
 

Joseppi

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If you continue in the words of Jesus then you are his disciple and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Once you come to Christ then you must follow him. All the followers of Moses were commanded to follow Christ.

There is in Jesus the new and living way to walk perfect before the Lord.

When I read that men are following Moses or some other man I know they are lost until they come to faith in the man Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Do you believe in God?
Then believe also in Jesus.

The law is letter. It contains no life. You can’t give the law, life. But you can be given life by faith in the words of Jesus.

The law is a burden, a condemnation of all men, a damnation of souls. It is stone cold truth.

Jesus is alive, and he is the Truth, the Way, and the Life.

Do you want to be free?
 
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