A sad truth.
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You haven't provided evidence of watering down over time. You gave some different translations and some paraphrases; that's all. A competent preacher, writer, or student would not regard a paraphrase on the same level of linguistic precision as a translation, and would recognize that neither Greek nor Hebrew translate perfectly into English, so a variety of translations is possible in many cases depending on the translator's goals and contextual understanding.
You can know the character of the one who sends a message by the message sent.
If the message was known to be a lie... the messenger is not the liar... but the one who sent him is.
If you believe 1Kings 22:23 is 100% as God intended.. then you also believe He sometimes lies... no. 1Kings 22:23 is corrupted... just like 1Chron 18:22.
And to use a corrupted verse to defend a corrupted verse is like saying "if we lie enough, it will become true."
God never lies nor does He condone it. To lie is to bare false witness... That's a big no no... and God holds Himself and his workers to a higher standard than the scriptures you cited.
If the message was known to be a lie... the messenger is not the liar... but the one who sent him is.
If you believe 1Kings 22:23 is 100% as God intended.. then you also believe He sometimes lies... no. 1Kings 22:23 is corrupted... just like 1Chron 18:22.
And to use a corrupted verse to defend a corrupted verse is like saying "if we lie enough, it will become true."
God never lies nor does He condone it. To lie is to bare false witness... That's a big no no... and God holds Himself and his workers to a higher standard than the scriptures you cited.
...and believing God works through lies and condoning lies... you've lost all ground.
And I believe God speaks to our hearts through the Holy Spirit... we can feel when something is a Gospel truth or not... I believe God loves us enough to give us this... so those who want the truth can feel it out.
How do you feel when you verbally believe 1Kings 22:23? ... say the words out loud and see how they feel.. "yes.. God lies to us through lying spirits... and yes.. He speaks evil as well."
Do those words feel right to you? .. if not.. John 16:13 is at work..
And I believe God speaks to our hearts through the Holy Spirit... we can feel when something is a Gospel truth or not... I believe God loves us enough to give us this... so those who want the truth can feel it out.
How do you feel when you verbally believe 1Kings 22:23? ... say the words out loud and see how they feel.. "yes.. God lies to us through lying spirits... and yes.. He speaks evil as well."
Do those words feel right to you? .. if not.. John 16:13 is at work..
Do you realize.. Jesus was so unpopular because He challenged the corrupted ways of the ancient Jews... even though Deuteronomy warned... not to let the scriptures become corrupted... and even now.. people defend the new corrupted ways... even though Revelation warns against letting it become corrupted...
... but God doesn't waste His words... and doesn't warn people against doing things that are impossible already.
His warning not to add to or take away from... the existence of that warning... means it's possible to mess up at.
Food for thought.
... but God doesn't waste His words... and doesn't warn people against doing things that are impossible already.
His warning not to add to or take away from... the existence of that warning... means it's possible to mess up at.
Food for thought.
You've made god conform to your ideas, rather than allowing your ideas to conform to God. I have said nothing about my beliefs, so your opening comment is irrelevant at best and ad hominem at worst.
Nowhere in Scripture does it say that God does not work with lies; you made that up yourself. What it does say is "God is not a man that he should lie." Consider how much more of your beliefs about God are actually your own invention.
Since you so blithely reject any Scripture that disagrees with your view, you have no objective standard. Your position is fundamentally no different than that of a JW, Adventist, or Mormon.
Nowhere in Scripture does it say that God does not work with lies; you made that up yourself. What it does say is "God is not a man that he should lie." Consider how much more of your beliefs about God are actually your own invention.
Since you so blithely reject any Scripture that disagrees with your view, you have no objective standard. Your position is fundamentally no different than that of a JW, Adventist, or Mormon.
I use Strong's all the time, but it isn't perfect. I see traditions of man interjected into its definitions. Let's face it Antichrist has had his way with Christianity.
I don't trust my salvation to any book. Without the Holy Spirit I wouldn't ever find my way to Jesus.
How do you know if God weren't talking to a demon when the lying spirit came forth (in 1 Kings 22:23). You have to stop drawing conclusions on your interpretations. It's dangerous.
I don't trust my salvation to any book. Without the Holy Spirit I wouldn't ever find my way to Jesus.
How do you know if God weren't talking to a demon when the lying spirit came forth (in 1 Kings 22:23). You have to stop drawing conclusions on your interpretations. It's dangerous.
what would you be doing if you decide you're going to edit what you read in the scripture according to your own understanding of it, then?
because you read something and find it mysterious, you decide to delete it from the Bible. you fail to see how it glorifies God, so, depending on your own comprehension and opinion, you mark it out. what are you effectively doing, and who are you effectively trusting to inform you of the ultimate truth?
because you read something and find it mysterious, you decide to delete it from the Bible. you fail to see how it glorifies God, so, depending on your own comprehension and opinion, you mark it out. what are you effectively doing, and who are you effectively trusting to inform you of the ultimate truth?