Slave to righteousness

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Can i have your thoughts on what it is to be a slave to righteousness and if possible can you give me an example of how you are a slave to righteousness.
 
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Because I have a mind set on the things of the Spirit I can't easily hold grudges, look at naked women other than my wife, cheat people out of money, etc. I can still do those things. I just can't do them willingly. I'm always pulled back inside to righteousness. And so far, I cooperate and go back to right things, like a slave.
 

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Willing slave to Jesus because of my great debt He paid.
 
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Deade

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This is how we are to think of ourselves. Because our "old man" sinful nature is ever with us, we must willingly subject ourselves to serve righteousness or reap the consequences of sin.

Rom. 6:18-23 "Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."



 

DustyRhodes

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Romans 6: [SUP]18 [/SUP]You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

God does not force us to do anything, He pours His graces upon us and gives
us all the tools to live a wonderful Christian life. So it is up to us to surrender
to Him will all our heart and mind. We accept that all that we do is for His will
and not our own. To become a slave to Him is our own choice and in our heart
we give ourselves to HIm
 
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Ok so say there is somebody i use to be in a relationship with and that person is always asking me for money.
Its been years since we were together and all through these years that we have not been together he continues to ask me to borrow money, to pay his phone to buy shoes to pay his RENT for transportation for everything, but he has NEVER paid me back one penny, am i suppose to continue "loaning/giving" him money simply because he keeps asking me, even though im a single parent with 2 kids trying to financially make it on my own. I struggle because when ever i tell him i can not he brings up God and how i am suppose to help then i feel like i have to "lend" it to him and i do.
Am i suppose to continue helping him? Is he using my walk with God to manipulate me into giving him money or am I in the wrong for wanting to say enough is enough no more.
 

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Ok so say there is somebody i use to be in a relationship with and that person is always asking me for money.
Its been years since we were together and all through these years that we have not been together he continues to ask me to borrow money, to pay his phone to buy shoes to pay his RENT for transportation for everything, but he has NEVER paid me back one penny, am i suppose to continue "loaning/giving" him money simply because he keeps asking me, even though im a single parent with 2 kids trying to financially make it on my own. I struggle because when ever i tell him i can not he brings up God and how i am suppose to help then i feel like i have to "lend" it to him and i do.
Am i suppose to continue helping him? Is he using my walk with God to manipulate me into giving him money or am I in the wrong for wanting to say enough is enough no more.
His borrowing is only you enabling him to be a leech and not take care of his own needs. This has nothing to do with God or helping the poor and needy. Stop it at once.

 
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If i do not help does that mean i am not being a slave to righteousness which in return will mean i am not righteousness. And if i am not slave to righteousness does that mean i am still a slave to sin?
 

Dino246

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Paul uses the phrase, "slave to righteousness" as a contrast to "slave to sin". In our fallen state, we cannot help but sin; we have no choice in the matter. In that sense we are slaves to it.

Being a "slave to righteousness" isn't about being a slave to other people's idea of righteousness! It's about being set free from the the fallen state, and being a willing servant of God.

I agree with Deade; you need to stop being a doormat to a leech. I strongly recommend that you read the book Boundaries by Cloud and Townsend. :)
 
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Being a slave to righteousness doesn't mean being someone's doormat. He's using you. IMO it's unrighteous for you to keep enabling his abusive behavior and dependency so that he never develops what it takes to grow up.
 
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Why does he not have enough money?



You are a single mom with two kids you need to feed, house, clothe, etc.


You take money from your kids to give to him. What does God say about that?
 

blue_ladybug

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Use your common sense. STOP giving him money. STOP enabling him. Tell him he needs to get a job if he needs money... Tell him that Tina's ATM is permanently broken. He's a bum and he's using you, and you keep allowing it... And it's not fair to your kids, or you for that matter. Your money should be spent on THEM, not on some manipulative user loser with no money, no job and no intentions of stopping to ask you to lend him money. You don't owe him ANYTHING.


Ok so say there is somebody i use to be in a relationship with and that person is always asking me for money.
Its been years since we were together and all through these years that we have not been together he continues to ask me to borrow money, to pay his phone to buy shoes to pay his RENT for transportation for everything, but he has NEVER paid me back one penny, am i suppose to continue "loaning/giving" him money simply because he keeps asking me, even though im a single parent with 2 kids trying to financially make it on my own. I struggle because when ever i tell him i can not he brings up God and how i am suppose to help then i feel like i have to "lend" it to him and i do.
Am i suppose to continue helping him? Is he using my walk with God to manipulate me into giving him money or am I in the wrong for wanting to say enough is enough no more.
 

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Honestly the whole slave to righteousness thing doesn't quite make sense to me. The term slave is to be in bondage and not having a choice or any sense of worth, people liken a slave to righteousness as a willing servant of God but that doesn't line up with being a slave of God, we aren't in bondage and it isn't as if we are forced to do his bidding
 

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If i do not help does that mean i am not being a slave to righteousness which in return will mean i am not righteousness. And if i am not slave to righteousness does that mean i am still a slave to sin?
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10

But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8
(Your children come first!)


It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay. Ecc 5:5
 

Deade

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Honestly the whole slave to righteousness thing doesn't quite make sense to me. The term slave is to be in bondage and not having a choice or any sense of worth, people liken a slave to righteousness as a willing servant of God but that doesn't line up with being a slave of God, we aren't in bondage and it isn't as if we are forced to do his bidding
How many times have you experienced a situation that really appeals to the flesh and the devil whispers an idea into your ear? Let me use an example, you are in a group of people that are talking about someone you all know. They start talking trash about them for the way they interacted with different ones. They have done you the same way.

With the devil egging you on, you find yourself joining in until you wake up. Would you risk disapproval to tell the group you won't participate in trash talk or would you just join in the gossip. This is when you need to think of yourself as a slave to sin. I often have to do that when someone cuts me off in traffic. Just think about what comes out of your mouth. Think of it as if everyone can hear it, especially the one you are directing it at.





 
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Nehemiah6

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Can i have your thoughts on what it is to be a slave to righteousness and if possible can you give me an example of how you are a slave to righteousness.
It is a metaphor which means that you have made a TOTAL COMMITMENT to righteousness in every aspect of your life (thoughts, words, deeds, everything). There are dozens of examples in the Bible.
 

joaniemarie

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Hi Tina., I hope you listen to the good advice those here in this thread gave you. And be set free from the rotten guilt that man has successfully used on you and taken advantage of you with.

Your attention and support is to God., your family and you. That man is not for you but against you. I know that sounds horrible to say about a man I don't know but it's really true. A man who would do that to a woman and her children is a user., taking advantage of your kindness and your situation. A terrible user.

The kind of "slavery" God is talking about is the blessed kind. It's "BLESSED SLAVERY" It's submitting to someone who loves you the most and best. The One who will always look out for us and takes better care of us than we could ourselves. Even if we were to have all the money in the world., it couldn't compare to how well Jesus takes care of us. Jesus is our husbandman and we who are believers in Christ as His bride.

It's a Blessed UNION.



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joaniemarie

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How many times have you experienced a situation that really appeals to the flesh and the devil whispers an idea into your ear? Let me use an example, you are in a group of people that are talking about someone you all know. They start talking trash about them for the way they interacted with different ones. They have done you the same way.

With the devil egging you on, you find yourself joining in until you wake up. Would you risk disapproval to tell the group you won't participate in trash talk or would you just join in the gossip. This is when you need to think of yourself as a slave to sin. I often have to do that when someone cuts me off in traffic. Just think about what comes out of your mouth. Think of it as if everyone can hear it, especially the one you are directing it at.






Another amazing truth is that JESUS has SET US FREE FROM THE POWER OF SIN! We are not free from the presence of sin yet but we are free from it's power! HOW AMAZING now we have a choice. To follow after our Good Shepherd who loves us and gave Himself up for us. Let's be like those little sheep who can't stop running after the Good Shepherd. :)

I'm picturing those little baby sheep who just run joyfully following the Shepherd. All their needs are met by the ONE who takes care of them. They have full confidence in Him. They are JOYFUL and worry free.
 

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It is a metaphor which means that you have made a TOTAL COMMITMENT to righteousness in every aspect of your life (thoughts, words, deeds, everything). There are dozens of examples in the Bible.
yes

I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.
(Romans 6:19)

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as a slave' a person would not really have choice about obedience to their master. you could rebel, but you will be punished for it, and coerced into obedience, to the point of death. so your choice is eventually concede, or die. you're not doing your own will, as you live, but doing the work your master has determined for you.

but it's important not to make too much of this analogy -- it's prefaced with Paul basically saying he's speaking in dumbed-down terms because we're not really smart enough to comprehend what he's really getting at. we are redeemed and the Greek term has reference to specifically paying of the debt completely for which a person has become indentured, in a way that legally prohibits them from ever being sold again as a slave. not so much bought as '
taken of the market'

much like in Hebrews where the author says he's got much more to say and explain, but he can't because we're idiots.

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find yourself in the Bible' the popular devotional books say, lol

that's me, the stupid sheep :rolleyes:
((but i have the Good Shepherd; i'm not afraid
))

 

joaniemarie

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If i do not help does that mean i am not being a slave to righteousness which in return will mean i am not righteousness. And if i am not slave to righteousness does that mean i am still a slave to sin?

Here's the great news Tina... If you asked Jesus to forgive you of your sin and save you., than He has and you have HIS righteousness. As we grow in the truth of Jesus in the Bible and through the Holy Spirit teaching us we become more like Him in our actions.

Now we go to God clothed in JESUS righteousness. :) None of us can go to God in our own righteousness or good works or good ideas. We always go in the name of Jesus believing it is HIS righteousness and not ours that gives us place. We live by the faith of the Son of God who loved us and gave Himself for us. :)

Galatians 2:20

[SUP]20 [/SUP]I have been crucified with Christ [in Him I have shared His crucifixion]; it is no longer I who live, but Christ (the Messiah) lives in me; and the life I now live in the body I live by faith in (by adherence to and reliance on and complete trust in) the Son of God, Who loved me and gave Himself up for me.