The New About The New Covenant

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● Jer 31:31-34 . . Behold, the days are coming, declares The Lord, when I
will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took
them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that
they broke, though I was their husband, declares The Lord.

. . . But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after
those days, declares The Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write
it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And
no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying
"know The Lord" for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the
greatest, declares The Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will
remember their sin no more.

The original covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God under oath
contains a number of curses for non compliance. They're on display at Ex
34:6-7, Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:1-69.

Those curses are covenanted, i.e. they're contractual; which means that
when the Jews, as a people, fail to comply with the covenant, God is
obligated to slam them with any number of misfortunes including throwing
them to the wolves, e.g. Nebuchadnezzar, Titus, and Hitler.

The new covenant contains no curses of a contractual nature; viz: God isn't
obligated to slam its participants for non compliance.
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[Dino246]

I'm not sure "obligated", with respect to God, is the best term in this context.

 

[beta]

I'm not sure "obligated", with respect to God, is the best term in this context.

I would say that 'obligated' is the right term when it comes to upholding a 'contract/covenant' even applying to GOD . It's not being disrespectful to expect God to keep His own rules...in fact absolutely necessary if we are to see Him as our dependable example.

 

[beta]

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● Jer 31:31-34 . . Behold, the days are coming, declares The Lord, when I
will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took
them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that
they broke, though I was their husband, declares The Lord.

. . . But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after
those days, declares The Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write
it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And
no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying
"know The Lord" for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the
greatest, declares The Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will
remember their sin no more.

The original covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God under oath
contains a number of curses for non compliance. They're on display at Ex
34:6-7, Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:1-69.

Those curses are covenanted, i.e. they're contractual; which means that
when the Jews, as a people, fail to comply with the covenant, God is
obligated to slam them with any number of misfortunes including throwing
them to the wolves, e.g. Nebuchadnezzar, Titus, and Hitler.

The new covenant contains no curses of a contractual nature; viz: God isn't
obligated to slam its participants for non compliance.
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True the NC is free from these curses but it is not without consequence when we fail to keep our side of the deal which is 'to love God and neighbour....as I understand it.

 

[BenFTW]

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● Jer 31:31-34 . . Behold, the days are coming, declares The Lord, when I
will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took
them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that
they broke, though I was their husband, declares The Lord.

. . . But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after
those days, declares The Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write
it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And
no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying
"know The Lord" for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the
greatest, declares The Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will
remember their sin no more.

The original covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God under oath
contains a number of curses for non compliance. They're on display at Ex
34:6-7, Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:1-69.

Those curses are covenanted, i.e. they're contractual; which means that
when the Jews, as a people, fail to comply with the covenant, God is
obligated to slam them with any number of misfortunes including throwing
them to the wolves, e.g. Nebuchadnezzar, Titus, and Hitler.

The new covenant contains no curses of a contractual nature; viz: God isn't
obligated to slam its participants for non compliance.
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Ephesians 6:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Its interesting that a promise from the Old Testament Law was presented in the NT as still being effectual. If you honor your parents, the promise is long life on earth. Does this mean the opposite is true, to dishonor them means that long life on earth is no longer guaranteed based upon a promise? Doesn't mean you won't live long, but its also no guarantee, if you are not honoring your parents.

I think non-compliance is its own punishment. There are blessings associated with walking in the Lord's ways, and acting in faith upon His promises. To not do so, robs you of blessings that are available. Do you wish to live long? Honor your parents. Do you wish to be blessed in order to bless others? Give. Do you wish to pray for the healing of others? Pray in faith to the Lord. All of these things are available for those that wish to partake. Why rob yourself, and others?

 

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Another thing different in the new covenant is the nature of its high
priesthood.

NOTE: A biblical high priesthood doesn't consist of a guild of priests, i.e. it's
an office held by only one man at a time; typically to his death.

The new covenant's high priesthood is patterned after a man in the Old
Testament named Melchizedek (Gen 14:18-20). Mel isn't a precise rendition
of the new covenant's high priesthood; he's only what's known as a "type"
i.e. an analogy.

In my opinion, the one thing about Mel that really stands out is his
superiority over Aaron's high priesthood. In other words: Mel's high
priesthood trumps Aaron's; viz: in situations where Aaron's law and
Melchizedek's law conflict, Mel's law is the rule. (Heb 7:4-10)

A very important thing about Mel is the era in which he lived. Mel was
contemporary with Abraham, which was something like 400+ years prior to
the institution of the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as
per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

That's a tremendous advantage because biblical law isn't retroactive viz: it
doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction (Deut 5:2-4, Gal 3:17); which means
that none of the covenant's curses for non compliance applied to either Mel
or to his constituents; which, at the time, included Abraham. Good thing too
because Abe was married to his half sister; a death offense within the
jurisdiction of the original covenant. (Lev 20:17)

Christ is the new covenant's high priest and his office is patterned after
Melchizedek's (Ps 110:4, Heb 5:4-6) which means of course that, like as
Mel's, Christ's constituents are in no danger of the old covenant's curses.

Christ will always be the new covenant's high priest because unlike Aaron,
Christ is immortal (Rom 6:9). Ergo: Christ's constituents will never, ever, be
in danger of the old covenant's curses; from now on till time without end.
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[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Jesus mediated the new covenant with 11 men. They knew what the terms of the covenant were beforehand - follow me, i.e., my words.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Another thing different in the new covenant is the nature of its high priesthood.

This is when GOD transferred the priesthood to the order of Melchizedek. John was the greatest Levite, who was given the task and honor of fulfilling this righteousness prophesied in the law. At the door of heaven Jesus was

• washed with water
• anointed with holy spirit
• declared righteous and holy by GOD

But Jesus answered [and] said to him, “Permit [it] now, for in this way it is right for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he permitted him. Now [after he] was baptized, Jesus immediately went up from the water, and behold, the heavens opened to him and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon him. And behold, [there was] a voice from heaven saying, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Matthew 3:15-17​

This was the fulfillment of the type foretold by the law of commissioning Levitical priests ("For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John." Matthew 11:13), during which at the door of the tabernacle they were

• washed with water
• anointed with oil
• Clothed in garments of righteousness and holiness

And thou shalt bring Aaron and his sons unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and wash them with water. And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. Exodus 40:12-14​

Thus superseding the Levitical priesthood and its law.

The law and the prophets [were] until John. From then the kingdom of God is announced as good news, and every one forces into it. Luke 16:16​

 

[wanderer6059]

technically, it was Christ and the Father who cut the NC, we just get it because we are Christ.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

technically, it was Christ and the Father who cut the NC, we just get it because we are Christ.

Technically? What does that mean? Jeremiah 31 specifically states that the new covenant was between the houses of Judah/Israel and GOD. Jesus was the mediator of the covenant.

 

[wanderer6059]

Technically? What does that mean? Jeremiah 31 specifically states that the new covenant was between the houses of Judah/Israel and GOD. Jesus was the mediator of the covenant.

exactly, it was not us, but Christ who cut the covenant with God the Father.

 

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The covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy contains an extensive sacrificial
system. The most important ritual is Yom Kippur's annual procedure, a.k.a.
the great day of atonement.

One of Yom Kippur's purposes is to remind the people that their sins are still
on the books; even sins for which they offered regular sacrifices all during
the year.

The problem is: the covenant's sacrifices obtain pardons and forgiveness and
cleansing for the people, but the sacrifices aren't sufficient to obtain
innocence for them nor to get their records wiped clean. In other words;
Yom Kippur may obtain forgiveness, pardon, and cleansing for dishonesty;
but on the books the offender will still be listed as a liar.

And on top of that, the very moment the ritual ends, people begin
accumulating new sins towards the next Yom Kippur so there's never really a
moment when the people are guiltless.

BTW: Never, ever, ever wish Jews a pleasant Yom Kippur because it's
supposed to be a national day of self-affliction. (Lev 16:29-31)

So then, Yom Kippurs are endless; one is never enough because the ritual is
always for the past, never for the future. In other words; Yom Kippurs are
always catching up with the people's sins instead of getting out ahead of
them.

The new covenant doesn't have an extensive sacrificial system, nor does it
have an endless parade of annual rituals like Yom Kippur. It had but one
sacrifice; just one, and it's good for all time. In other words: the new
covenant's sacrifice isn't only for past sins, but also for sins of the future
that people haven't even committed yet.

Plus, the new covenant's sacrifice is sufficient to get the people off their
perpetual guilt trip because it not only obtains pardons and forgiveness and
cleansing, but also an acquittal and a complete wipe; something nobody gets
from Yom Kippur.
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_ Switching To The New Covenant _


● Matt 5:18 . .Verily, I say unto you: Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Christ's statement reveals that the Jews can't just walk away from the
covenant that their ancestors agreed upon with God as per Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy without first fulfilling this one
particular curse:

● Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this
law by doing them.

The apostle Paul posted a reminder of that curse in one of his epistles.

● Gal 3:10 . . Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in
the Book of the Law, and do them.

Note the grammatical tense of the curse; it's present tense rather than
future, indicating that curses for non compliance are instant; no delay and
no waiting period-- "cursed be" is right now. For example:

● Lev 19:11 . . You shall not deal falsely, nor lie to one another.

Every time a Jew breaks that law they incur a curse upon themselves; and
those curses have a way of piling up. Let's say a Jew racks up 100 counts of
dishonesty during their lifetime. Well; that's 100 curses that they need to
clear off the books before they can be freed to sign on with the new
covenant.

Seeing as how there has been neither a Temple nor a fully functioning
priesthood on duty in Jerusalem since Titus destroyed the place in 70ad,
then every dishonest Jew since then has had no way to get their accrued
curses mitigated in a covenanted manner.

In God's judicious estimation, the only satisfactory alternative, in lieu of
slamming the offender, is to lay the blame on a scapegoat.

● Isa 53:6 . . All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, every
one, to his own way; and Jehovah has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

The phrase "laid on him" is in the grammatical past tense, indicating that
Jesus was as good as sacrificed for the sins of the world even before he was
crucified; in point of fact, even before creation. (1Pet 1:20, Rev 13:8, and
Rev 17:8)

NOTE: The scapegoat had to be willing of course or the whole business
would've been a ritual murder.
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[Deade]

Technically? What does that mean? Jeremiah 31 specifically states that the new covenant was between the houses of Judah/Israel and GOD. Jesus was the mediator of the covenant.

Jer. 31:31-34 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

Yes, and this outpouring of God's Spirit spoken of here and in Joel 2:28, 29 has not happened yet. Have we anytime in history where the knowledge of the Lord is/was universal? I don't think so.

 

[Blik]

True the NC is free from these curses but it is not without consequence when we fail to keep our side of the deal which is 'to love God and neighbour....as I understand it.

If we were free from curses for disobedience then there would be no more divorce, jails wouldn't be needed, tears would go away. The world of joy and abundance would be ours.

 

[Blik]

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The covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy contains an extensive sacrificial
system. The most important ritual is Yom Kippur's annual procedure, a.k.a.
the great day of atonement.

One of Yom Kippur's purposes is to remind the people that their sins are still
on the books; even sins for which they offered regular sacrifices all during
the year.

The problem is: the covenant's sacrifices obtain pardons and forgiveness and
cleansing for the people, but the sacrifices aren't sufficient to obtain
innocence for them nor to get their records wiped clean. In other words;
Yom Kippur may obtain forgiveness, pardon, and cleansing for dishonesty;
but on the books the offender will still be listed as a liar.

And on top of that, the very moment the ritual ends, people begin
accumulating new sins towards the next Yom Kippur so there's never really a
moment when the people are guiltless.

BTW: Never, ever, ever wish Jews a pleasant Yom Kippur because it's
supposed to be a national day of self-affliction. (Lev 16:29-31)

So then, Yom Kippurs are endless; one is never enough because the ritual is
always for the past, never for the future. In other words; Yom Kippurs are
always catching up with the people's sins instead of getting out ahead of
them.

The new covenant doesn't have an extensive sacrificial system, nor does it
have an endless parade of annual rituals like Yom Kippur. It had but one
sacrifice; just one, and it's good for all time. In other words: the new
covenant's sacrifice isn't only for past sins, but also for sins of the future
that people haven't even committed yet.

Plus, the new covenant's sacrifice is sufficient to get the people off their
perpetual guilt trip because it not only obtains pardons and forgiveness and
cleansing, but also an acquittal and a complete wipe; something nobody gets
from Yom Kippur.
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The sacrifice of animals for forgiveness WAS inferior to the sacrifice Christ made for our sins. That does not mean that we are to put down Yom Kippur or anything that the Lord gives or gave in the past. We are to study all the sacrifices for they teach us what Christ does for us in a much better way.

The covenant that was made on Mt Sinai had nothing to do with animal sacrifice or Yom Kippur. It was a covenant that promised blessings for obedience, and as we know even today, that sin brings all that is opposite to blessings. It had nothing at all to do with salvation. Salvation is entirely separate from law. There is no obedient act we can do that will earn us salvation, there never was. Salvation is a gift we are given by God, not a blessing really as promised by obedience but a gift.

 

[Blik]

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Another thing different in the new covenant is the nature of its high
priesthood.

NOTE: A biblical high priesthood doesn't consist of a guild of priests, i.e. it's
an office held by only one man at a time; typically to his death.

The new covenant's high priesthood is patterned after a man in the Old
Testament named Melchizedek (Gen 14:18-20).
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I think you have it backwards--the high priesthood of the OT was patterned after the high priesthood that is Christ. Also, in order to find out all that Christ is for us as high priest, we need to study the ones that were patterned after Him.

Melchizedek was both a king and a priest as Christ is. That is the similarity.

 

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FAQ: According to Ezek 18:20, people have to pay for their own sins;
i.e. another cannot take their blame nor die nor in their place. How then was
Christ's sacrifice a legitimate stand-in for the sins of the entire world?

A: The secret is in the timing.

According to 1Pet 1:20, Rev 13:8, and Rev 17:8, Jesus Christ was put on
track to satisfy justice for the sins of the world prior to the creation of the
cosmos.

According to Deut 5:2-4 and Gal 3:17, biblical law isn't retroactive viz: it
doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction.

So then, seeing as how Jesus Christ was tagged to pay for the sins of the
world many, many years prior to Ezekiel's proclamation . . .
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[Deade]

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FAQ: According to Ezek 18:20, people have to pay for their own sins;
i.e. another cannot take their blame nor die nor in their place. How then was
Christ's sacrifice a legitimate stand-in for the sins of the entire world?

A: The secret is in the timing.

According to 1Pet 1:20, Rev 13:8, and Rev 17:8, Jesus Christ was put on
track to satisfy justice for the sins of the world prior to the creation of the
cosmos.

According to Deut 5:2-4 and Gal 3:17, biblical law isn't retroactive viz: it
doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction.

So then, seeing as how Jesus Christ was tagged to pay for the sins of the
world many, many years prior to Ezekiel's proclamation . . .
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We can thank the Lord for that!

 

[Magenta]

Jer. 31:31-34 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

Yes, and this outpouring of God's Spirit spoken of here and in Joel 2:28, 29 has not happened yet. Have we anytime in history where the knowledge of the Lord is/was universal? I don't think so.