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cionski

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You, THE ONE WHO TRULY EXISTS, show us your presence, your dreadful and terrible presence that we may be translated into the realms of your reality. Oh, we, for so long have dread into these fleeting illusions of our lives thinking that by holding on to them we might gain the satisfaction of our souls. But oh, to our foolishness, we were but chasers of the ephemeral pursuits of our existence.
OH, You, THE ONE WHO TRULY EXISTS, show us your presence, your dreadful and terrible presence for it calms the very recesses of our souls. to be visited by your dreadful presence is far better than holding on to these fleeting, momentary illusions of our being that holds us in bondage of fear while we are yet living.
 
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though i see what you are saying, i'm not sure dreadful is the proper word. fearful is better, but dreadful can be attributed to something like a horrible day at work. like: my day was so dreadful because i was fired, or it was boring, or i got in an accident
 
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cionski

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mmm...my first objection to your argument is, don't be subjective in defining my terms. be objective. i have my own definition of dread and if you won't define it in my terms then your off the mark in interpreting what i just stated.
 
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cionski

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secondly, words do not have one definition. they vary on many degrees. depending on the context. so one must also interpret the words based on its context not just based on what a person (the reader) knows about the word.
 
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cionski said:
secondly, words do not have one definition. they vary on many degrees. depending on the context. so one must also interpret the words based on its context not just based on what a person (the reader) knows about the word.
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While God is dreadful to those who ignore Him, who have made their hearts hard to His voice, (and He will certainly destroy His enemies,) to those who love Him, He is anything but dreadful.

It should be noted that to our flesh, and to the nature which is of this flesh, His presence is death, but to us it is a welcome death, one that we seek, in order to lay aside the life of sin to live in the Son more fully.
 
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dread

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–verb (used with object) 1. to fear greatly; be in extreme apprehension of: to dread death.

2. to be reluctant to do, meet, or experience: I dread going to big parties.

3. Archaic . to hold in respectful awe.


–verb (used without object) 4. to be in great fear.


–noun 5. terror or apprehension as to something in the future; great fear.

6. a person or thing dreaded.

7. dreads, Informal . dreadlocks.

8. Informal . a person who wears dreadlocks.

9. Archaic . deep awe or reverence.


–adjective 10. greatly feared; frightful; terrible.

11. held in awe or reverential fear.




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See images of dread


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I think dread is the wrong word to.
 
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cionski

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Deep awe, respect, fear is how i define dread. But these synonyms cannot contain what dread really means. Because deep in our hearts, we sense a deep fear, discomfort when we encounter (experience) the living God. It is like threading into the unknown. His infinity haunts my soul so much that the more I know Him the more I get scared of Him but it gives me infinite satisfaction. It is like listening to a ghost story, the more you plunge into the story the more you get scared, but the more you want it too. Its very paradoxical. That's what experience with the living God really is.
 
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Yearning. Just recently the Holy Spirit talked of how some of his people are yearning to go home.
 
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cionski said:
mmm...my first objection to your argument is, don't be subjective in defining my terms. be objective. i have my own definition of dread and if you won't define it in my terms then your off the mark in interpreting what i just stated.
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cionski said:
secondly, words do not have one definition. they vary on many degrees. depending on the context. so one must also interpret the words based on its context not just based on what a person (the reader) knows about the word.
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whoa, hey, i was just saying that dreadful wasn't the best choice of words because it has so many interpretations, and not everyone knows all of them. I even told you that i understand what you're saying. I wasn't trying to argue, but sorry that it sounded that way.
 
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cionski

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Yes, i also understand you but what I am trying to say is this: Try to interpret a statement, a sentence, a phrase, a story etc. based on what the writer really means not on what we (the readers) think it means. That's how we should interpret everything (especially the bible) right?
 
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Yes, i also understand you but what I am trying to say is this: Try to interpret a statement, a sentence, a phrase, a story etc. based on what the writer really means not on what we (the readers) think it means. That's how we should interpret everything (especially the bible) right?
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That is an unreasonable expectation. Each person is different, and has had unique experiences which color how they see words and events. And in addition, each person writes differently, and we the readers are not able to actually see into his mind to see what he means. To write, one must consider the reader as much as what he is trying to say.

As an aside, reading the scripture without the leading of the Holy Spirit without seeking to gain His understanding, is fruitless.
 
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cionski

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well, i just want to ask you one question: Do you want being misinterpreted because the readers want to mean what they want to mean? Your argument is in fact self-defeating.
 
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Changing words all around. Like when I was kid to say something was good or cool became its bad. Now adays to say something is good or cool they call it wicked. The writer has to make his writing clear to others unless he wants to be the only one who reads it.

I understood when you were writing dread you were meaning fear but I also knew it would confuse lots of people. People don't want to be confused when they read. Does that help.
 
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this argument is pointless and i don't think it should continue. let's just say that what cionski meant was good, and what some of us initially read wasn't what he meant, and therefore confused some people.
 
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greatkraw

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so what is the story?

he is like a pet dog?

will show himself when you call?
 
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cionski said:
well, i just want to ask you one question: Do you want being misinterpreted because the readers want to mean what they want to mean? Your argument is in fact self-defeating.
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Ridiculous, when we speak to others, we must always consider what their hearing is like, unless the Holy Spirit is working to open their ears, or we will always be misunderstood. What you propose for communication is not communication at all, but dictation.
 
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who's this refering to?
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I think he is refering to the tone of the original post. I assume that it is a language problem, but it sound as if the poster is summoning God.
 
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cionski

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ahahaha.very interesting.I meant what I do want to mean. I am no manipulator of words. I just want words that express what i really want to express. i believe dread is the most appropriate one to use and I am not entitled to change it due to dictations of others. If a reader wants to be clarified, he then can ask me.
 
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So is it settled, then?
 
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