Prophecy in a Nutshell

[pre-trib]

It occurs just slightly prior to the beginning of Daniels 70th week.
The Day of the Lord begins with ezekial 38;18-20 which matches perfectly with Revelation 6;14-17 and Isaiah 2;19
Actually it is this prophecy of every mountain and wall shall fall to the ground, that the dome of the rock is destroyed and the third temple is built.
Considering that Israel's immediate arab neighbors were defeated (Isaiah 17;1/Psalms 83) and the Lord of all creation had wiped out Israels enemies in the Ezekial; 38 prophecy,...logic dictates that there would not be any islamic nations to object to Israel in building a third temple.
When the Great and terrible Day of the Lord begins,...it begins when the A.O.D. begins. Anytime there is a word change of description, there is a reason for it.
In the first half of Daniels 70th week, the Great multitude, the two witnesses and the 144,000 will be able to witness and bring many to the Lord in the first half "UNOBSTRUCTED"
The reason for this is because permission to war and prevail against the saints is not granted to the beast until the A.O.D. begins and the Beast is also granted to continue for 42 months Revelation 13;5-7.
Malachi 4:5 is clear that the Lord will send Elijah........"before"......... the Great and terrible Day of the Lord.
Enoch and Elijah will die their death as it is appointed for man to die once (O.T.Saints before the Cross) ,....when the A.O.D. begins.(Take notice that it was at the midpoint of Daniels 70 week that the Beast, Rev 13;5-7)is granted to prevail and not before.

The Day of the Lord begins with Ezekial 38;18-20,Revelation 6;14-17 and Isaiah 2;19......and it continues until the A.O.D. begins.
When the A.O.D. begins that is when the Great Tribulation begins also known as The Great and terrible Day of the lord.("Before" meaning as in the first half of Daniels 70th week).

Before Ezekial 38 can come to pass,..a time of normal life must be present such as marrying and giving in marriage and drinking , as in the days of Noah. Ezekial 38 describes Israel dwelling in safety and not expecting an attack, for that matter the world was even surprise that this attack to place as is described in Ezekial 38.

It is the Prophecy of Isaiah 17;1/Psalms 83 combo that causes Israel to believe she is dwelling safely. Israel will gain more territory from her immediate arab neighbors in keeping with the promise of a certain amount of land promised to Abraham's descendents by the Lord.
So in a nutshell,..Even though technically, the rapture can happen any moment,..it is my opinion that it will occur just slightly prior to Ezekial 38.
The Ancient Jewish wedding as a shadow type, suggests that the Bride will only be in heaven for 7 years and then the lord will return in His physical second return to rule and reign for a thousand years.


So it is believed that the beginning of the generation that would not pass away until all these things came to pass, which includes the A.O.D. and the Second Physical coming of the Lord,Began on May 14 1948.
So the question is asked,.."How long is a generation"?
Psalms 90;10 indicates that it is 70 years but could be as long as 80 years.
But we have sign post's along the way.and the Lord made it clear that the Bride would not be cought by surprise, that we would perceive the general time era of when we would be caught up to meet the Lord in the air(1 Thessalonians 5;4)

It is very obvious today that Isaiah 17;1 could happen any day.

 

[Elijahtruth]

PRE-TRIB ESQ; GO TOO RAPTURE FALSE TEACHING LISTED on the topics page read and go to the Lords site, He Gathers all those of Adam, adnd Eve for the epic end times gathering it has begun...much respect Elijahtruth Adam and Eve seed gathering ministry onh the net...

 

[pre-trib]

PRE-TRIB ESQ; GO TOO RAPTURE FALSE TEACHING LISTED on the topics page read and go to the Lords site, He Gathers all those of Adam, adnd Eve for the epic end times gathering it has begun...much respect Elijahtruth Adam and Eve seed gathering ministry onh the net...

luke 12;36...who did He marry?

 

[forerunner]

luke 12;36...who did He marry?

Who is he??? it was a made up story, he was and invented character of a parable.

 

[pre-trib]

Who is he??? it was a made up story, he was and invented character of a parable.

Jesus Christ is the Word of God come in the flesh,,...not one word comes back to Him void.
It is the real deal,..and so is lazarus and the rich man....."HE" is the Lord

 

[Devolution]

Gog and Magog happen way after all you have mentioned im afraid. Please read Rev 20:7-8. Satan is imprisoned during Christ's 1000 yr reign. Is released after the 1000k is expired, and THEN Gog & Magog attack the mortal Jews in Israel, of whom God defends. Trib & Wrath long passed. This attack is before the second resurrection. The final curtain on Satan and all those who rejected Christs teachings during His reign.

 

[pre-trib]

Gog and Magog happen way after all you have mentioned im afraid. Please read Rev 20:7-8. Satan is imprisoned during Christ's 1000 yr reign. Is released after the 1000k is expired, and THEN Gog & Magog attack the mortal Jews in Israel, of whom God defends. Trib & Wrath long passed. This attack is before the second resurrection. The final curtain on Satan and all those who rejected Christs teachings during His reign.

Ezekial 38 and revelation 20:7-8 are two different events
There are many differences,...one for example,.....Gog is killed and buried in Ezekial 39;11...including his armies...Israel is also instructed for 7 months to bury them,..AND 7 YEARS TO BURN THE WEAPONS.

Now lets consider what happens at the end of the millennium.
Satan's armies are destroyed,..and then the Great White Throne Judgement begins,...do you honestly believe that the Lord will wait 7 years after the armies are destroyed to begin the Great White throne Judgement?
Why Bury them all if the Lord causes the sea and earth to give up the dead?Why even bother?

This is only a sample..............You should try looking for the differences instead of repeating what someone may have told you.

 

[Devolution]

Sigh, such attacks are common when one is challenged. Read Ezek 38: 11: And thou shalt say (gog&magog), I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates. So now whoever told you what you declare and are repeating, without understanding, you both should look at your mistakes. Is Israel unwalled today? Is she dwelling safely? Without bars and gates??? Have you not read that God will be their wall, their defence? Future prophecy. Since 38:8 tells us God brings them back from the sword, obviously after the false prophet conquers and scatters Israel before Christs return, and since there's no war during Christs reign and all modern weaponry destroyed, only God can defend them when satan is released from his imprisonment Rev 20:7, since they have no means of defending themselves as they DO today. At REST !! Do you not understand that prophecy? It is concerning the millenium when Israel is at peace dwelling mortally not yet spiritually in the kingdom, search the epistles where it is explained what the REST means. I say Israel is dwelling physically in, not spiritually inheriting the kingdom yet, for the first will be last, but under God's protection, learning the ways of Christ through His resurrected saints for 1k yrs, you are in error, this is only a sample.

 

[pre-trib]

Sigh, such attacks are common when one is challenged. Read Ezek 38: 11: And thou shalt say (gog&magog), I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates. So now whoever told you what you declare and are repeating, without understanding, you both should look at your mistakes. Is Israel unwalled today? Is she dwelling safely? Without bars and gates??? Have you not read that God will be their wall, their defence? Future prophecy. Since 38:8 tells us God brings them back from the sword, obviously after the false prophet conquers and scatters Israel before Christs return, and since there's no war during Christs reign and all modern weaponry destroyed, only God can defend them when satan is released from his imprisonment Rev 20:7, since they have no means of defending themselves as they DO today. At REST !! Do you not understand that prophecy? It is concerning the millenium when Israel is at peace dwelling mortally not yet spiritually in the kingdom, search the epistles where it is explained what the REST means. I say Israel is dwelling physically in, not spiritually inheriting the kingdom yet, for the first will be last, but under God's protection, learning the ways of Christ through His resurrected saints for 1k yrs, you are in error, this is only a sample.

Oh! to see you make these erroneous statements tells me that you are not really aware of history and current prophetic events,....the crazy thing about it is,..it will most likely come to pass before this year has expired,..regardless,..it is very near.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/17423-day-lord.html

You Quote:
Future prophecy. Since 38:8 tells us God brings them back from the sword, obviously after the false prophet conquers and scatters Israel before Christs return, and since there's no war during Christs reign and all modern weaponry destroyed,

My Reply:
First of all "Brought back from the Sword ....let's keep it straight for the record and not twist the Word of God for the correct dividing of the Word of God

After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.
"The Sword" is world war 2 ...It wasa land that was barron and desolate,..and now is as the Garden of Eden.

You Quote:
all modern weaponry destroyed, only God can defend them when satan is released from his imprisonment .

My Reply:
Ezekial 38 ;4
I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords
Ezekiel 38;7
Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.(The word Guard interpreted means "ARMORER")
Ezekiel 39;3
3Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand.

So it is that your erroneous interpretation of "all modern weaponry destroyed" is a false statement.

If you wish to try and understand how it is that this time of false peace will come in the near future,..then click onto the following link

Jack Kelly

But there is more to this my friend and brother in Christ Jesus,......After this coming war in the middle east,..a time of false peace will come,.....I cannot tell you the day or hour,..but it is in those days when the pre-trib rapture will occur....If you wish to know more,..I will explain.

 

[Devolution]

Please read Ezek 39: 29. Neither will I hide My face any more from them: for I have poured out My Spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God. What law does Israel today live under? THE LAW OF MOSES. Who did they reject even to this day? JESUS. What does scripture say? The Gentiles become His people, the last come first (resurrected in Christs name whom 90% of Jews reject even today). So how can it be what you say? Read it again !! Like I said read rev 20:7-8. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quaters of the earth, GOG and MAGOG, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. These are not my words, it is so plain it can't possibly be private interpretation, You asked if God could possibly wait 7 years after Gog & Magog, before the last judgement..When Christ returns the seventh trumpet is blown. Every city on this planet will be destroyed along with all modern factories technology etc, EVERY CITY..all swords beaten into plowshares, all survivors in thos countries will be subject to Christs authority, no more tech. 1000yrs later Satan released, gathers those who still reject Christ, 1000yrs a long time to re-populate, then satan destroyed in the Last battle. Why it Takes 7 years is only logical. No more phones or t.v to spread that news overnight like today, it will take time. Why do they need hear it through men and not God telling them? Because it's they who need to prove themselves to God, not the other way round. That hasn't changed in the future either. Let them hear the dread through the dreadful. I do agree with you on one point though.. it is very very close, the storm is almost upon us. Not many years till we see that wicked one.. but i will say that your demeaning of persons who dare challenge you is not Gods way. Therefore i wont give you relevant scripture. I have no 'church' to defend either. It comes and is established with Christ on His return. That church i defend. I said my peace. Arguing is pointless. Hope you resist the strong delusion God sends on the world to accept the evil one.

 

[pre-trib]

Please read Ezek 39: 29. Neither will I hide My face any more from them: for I have poured out My Spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God. What law does Israel today live under? THE LAW OF MOSES. Who did they reject even to this day? JESUS. What does scripture say? The Gentiles become His people, the last come first (resurrected in Christs name whom 90% of Jews reject even today). So how can it be what you say? Read it again !! Like I said read rev 20:7-8. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quaters of the earth, GOG and MAGOG, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. These are not my words, it is so plain it can't possibly be private interpretation, You asked if God could possibly wait 7 years after Gog & Magog, before the last judgement..When Christ returns the seventh trumpet is blown. Every city on this planet will be destroyed along with all modern factories technology etc, EVERY CITY..all swords beaten into plowshares, all survivors in thos countries will be subject to Christs authority, no more tech. 1000yrs later Satan released, gathers those who still reject Christ, 1000yrs a long time to re-populate, then satan destroyed in the Last battle. Why it Takes 7 years is only logical. No more phones or t.v to spread that news overnight like today, it will take time. Why do they need hear it through men and not God telling them? Because it's they who need to prove themselves to God, not the other way round. That hasn't changed in the future either. Let them hear the dread through the dreadful. I do agree with you on one point though.. it is very very close, the storm is almost upon us. Not many years till we see that wicked one.. but i will say that your demeaning of persons who dare challenge you is not Gods way. Therefore i wont give you relevant scripture. I have no 'church' to defend either. It comes and is established with Christ on His return. That church i defend. I said my peace. Arguing is pointless. Hope you resist the strong delusion God sends on the world to accept the evil one.

The following is by our brother Doug L.



17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.

19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.

20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.

21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.

27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

The feast in Ezekiel 39:17-20 is much bigger than the feast in Ezekiel 39:4 - because the 39:17-20 feast is the Armageddon feast. How do we know? Because (1) there is no more mention of Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 17-29
(2) the language in the verses of 28 and 29 can only be from a perspective of after Armageddon.

In verse 28, it says that none of children of Israel are left in the nations. That corresponds to Matthew 24:31, the gathering of the elect. In verse 29, "for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel"
which means that Israel cannot be in a state of rejection of Jesus.

I would urge anyone reading this post to take a look at the two feasts and see that they bracket the 7 years of the 70th week.

Doug L.

About the 7th trumpet,..it occurs between the second and third "WOE" which occurs at hye mid point of Daniels 70th week.
Also the 7th trumpet is a judgement trumpet,..not a hurrah trumpet
The 7th trumpet is called a plague.
Are seals, trumpets and bowls all the “wrath of God”? In Revelation 9:20, the trumpets are referred to as “plagues”, a transliteration from the Greek. In Revelation 15:1, the bowls are called “the last seven plagues”, indicating that they are part of a larger group of plagues, of which the trumpets are also part. The bowls are called the wrath of God in Revelation 16:1. In Revelation 15:1, we are told that the wrath of God is completed in the bowls, which implies His wrath is begun elsewhere.

The judgment of Babylon is referred to as “plagues” in Revelation 18:4 and 8, and verse 8 specifies this comes from the Lord. So the trumpets, bowls, and the judgment of Babylon are all part of the same group of plagues, and are called God’s wrath. The first through fifth seals, and the events coming from them, are not referred to as plagues or wrath. When the 6th seal is open, the people of the earth say it is the day of the Lamb’s wrath. Is it?

In Rev. 15:1, the “bowl judgments” are “the seven last plagues”, after the other plagues. The trumpets are also called plagues in Rev. 9:20. The “seven last plagues” must happen after the other plagues. In 17:1 “And one of the seven angels having the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying to me, Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on the many waters”. John is again taken outside the sequence.

Seals, Trumpets, Bowl happen in order. Any interpretation that overlaps or rearranges these is not supported by the text. (i.e. some teach the 6th seal happens at the end of the tribulation, after the trumpets and bowls)

 

[Consumed]

straining a camel to get a gnat, Pharasies had all the answers, brood of vipers Jesus called them, even John the Baptist called them a brood of vipers, knowledge of the scriptures or the knowledge of Jesus Christ being found in the scriptures how to live a holy life in justification thru faith in Jesus.

 

[Devolution]

Rev 18 : 21-24. Talks about the destruction of Babylon the great. That great city Babylon = the world. What does it say? All trade is NO MORE. The voice of them is GONE forever, lest they rise a second time and fill the earth with their cities. Does that last bit sound familiar to you? It's somewhere else in the scriptures, search for it. So ALL semblance of moderninity is abolished when Christ is ruling. Our infrastructures and tech has taken thousands of years to get to our stage, with it all destroyed as God stated, not me, at the 7th trump, the future armies would indeed be using midevial weapons, hence the 7 years to burn their equipment. Ezek 39: 9-10 tells us those of the cities of Israel shall set on fire and burn the weapons, the shields, the bucklers, th bows & arrows, and handstaves for those 7 years. So civilians are doing the clean up. What credentials would be needed to clean up a modern battlefield? With Destroyed artillery pieces, all manner af armoured vehicles, toxins, mountains of bullet shell casings, all metal guns, missile fragments etc etc, these arent very fire friendly? And would take modern equipment to remove the larger wreckage of vehicles etc. But they are all gone by that stage. The 7th trump and vials you mention as seperate events. Not so. Read Rev10:7 . What does it say? But in the voice of the 7th angel=trumpet, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should BE FINISHED, as He hath declared to HIS SERVANTS the prophets. So where do the vials fit in? They are one and the same. The vials give more insight and correlate perfectly with O.T & N.T scripture giving us a slightly bigger picture of world events during the wrath of God. Again God said, not me, that when the 7th angel begins to sound, the Mystery of God will be FINISHED. The mystery of revelations which the world argues over. So vials and trumpets are the same, the seals are time frames unfolding to which we are nearing the end of the black horse. Next comes that wicked one. The 70 wks is long fulfilled. When Gods neatly fitting doctrine isn't forced to fit into mens doctrines it all flows smoothly and completes each other. Nothing i say will budge you. You are full of the wine of your doctrine, drunk on ots intellectual appeal of self grandisement. Gods Word is for the simple (in worldly terms) not these highly decorated theologins with their complex explanations and titles to dazzle. Have you not read, not many learned will be saved? WHy? They rely on their degrees & self glorifying intellect to demand authority so their views are heard and all else are shunned. This happens in churches etc all the time. Sad.

 

[pickles]

I have always been awed by revelations, mostly because it is so beyond my understanding.
Ive read and listened to many interpit revelations, it has struck me that we simply are not meant to understand it all.
Mostly because I believe it is written in a way that will be understood when the time is apon us, also written so that it cannot be corrupted.
If there is any message that I see in revelations, it is keep your eyes on Jesus, live in Jesus, and be always ready in Jesus!
In Jesus,God bless. pickles

 

[pre-trib]

I have always been awed by revelations, mostly because it is so beyond my understanding.
Ive read and listened to many interpit revelations, it has struck me that we simply are not meant to understand it all.
Mostly because I believe it is written in a way that will be understood when the time is apon us, also written so that it cannot be corrupted.
If there is any message that I see in revelations, it is keep your eyes on Jesus, live in Jesus, and be always ready in Jesus!
In Jesus,God bless. pickles

You Quote:
has struck me that we simply are not meant to understand it all.

My Reply:
I do not believe your statement here.
When the Lord speaks,..His Words will not come back to Him VOID.
...............................God Bless You Pickles

 

[pre-trib]

Rev 18 : 21-24. Talks about the destruction of Babylon the great. That great city Babylon = the world. What does it say? All trade is NO MORE. The voice of them is GONE forever, lest they rise a second time and fill the earth with their cities. Does that last bit sound familiar to you? It's somewhere else in the scriptures, search for it. So ALL semblance of moderninity is abolished when Christ is ruling. Our infrastructures and tech has taken thousands of years to get to our stage, with it all destroyed as God stated, not me, at the 7th trump, the future armies would indeed be using midevial weapons, hence the 7 years to burn their equipment. Ezek 39: 9-10 tells us those of the cities of Israel shall set on fire and burn the weapons, the shields, the bucklers, th bows & arrows, and handstaves for those 7 years. So civilians are doing the clean up. What credentials would be needed to clean up a modern battlefield? With Destroyed artillery pieces, all manner af armoured vehicles, toxins, mountains of bullet shell casings, all metal guns, missile fragments etc etc, these arent very fire friendly? And would take modern equipment to remove the larger wreckage of vehicles etc. But they are all gone by that stage. The 7th trump and vials you mention as seperate events. Not so. Read Rev10:7 . What does it say? But in the voice of the 7th angel=trumpet, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should BE FINISHED, as He hath declared to HIS SERVANTS the prophets. So where do the vials fit in? They are one and the same. The vials give more insight and correlate perfectly with O.T & N.T scripture giving us a slightly bigger picture of world events during the wrath of God. Again God said, not me, that when the 7th angel begins to sound, the Mystery of God will be FINISHED. The mystery of revelations which the world argues over. So vials and trumpets are the same, the seals are time frames unfolding to which we are nearing the end of the black horse. Next comes that wicked one. The 70 wks is long fulfilled. When Gods neatly fitting doctrine isn't forced to fit into mens doctrines it all flows smoothly and completes each other. Nothing i say will budge you. You are full of the wine of your doctrine, drunk on ots intellectual appeal of self grandisement. Gods Word is for the simple (in worldly terms) not these highly decorated theologins with their complex explanations and titles to dazzle. Have you not read, not many learned will be saved? WHy? They rely on their degrees & self glorifying intellect to demand authority so their views are heard and all else are shunned. This happens in churches etc all the time. Sad.

I am about to go to church,..so I cannot answer everything here in detail,..But I do know your statement is very flawed,.....Russia and the Islamic nations do attack Israel just slightly prior to the beginning of Daniels 70th week.
These armies only advance as far as the mountains of Israel and are destroyed long before Jerusalem,..they never make it there.
They are buried East of the dead sea.
And they never get a chance to use their weapons,...God Gets the Glory, and the Honor and Glory are His and His alone!...Praise His Mighty name!!!
Ezekiel 39:
3Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you.

 

[pickles]

You Quote:
has struck me that we simply are not meant to understand it all.

My Reply:
I do not believe your statement here.
When the Lord speaks,..His Words will not come back to Him VOID.
...............................God Bless You Pickles

If you read all my statement, you would also see that I believe it is written for the time it is meant for.
The more I have read revelations, the more I am impressed that it was written for when it happens.
Of course there is that which is already passed, but this is just my interpitation of what I have read.
I just sence that it is instructions for when we are there.
But You are right, there is no limit in God Our Fathers word.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles