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zone

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John F. Kennedy

"For we are opposed, around the world, by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence; in infiltration instead of invasion; on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice; on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined, its dissenters are silenced, not praised; no expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed....."








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The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down... but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault. — Council on Foreign Relations member Richard Gardner, l974


WEBSTER’S 1828 DICTIONARY:
CONSPIR’ACY, noun [Latin conspiratio, from conspiro. See Conspire.]

1. A combination of men for an evil purpose; an agreement between two or more persons, to commit some crime in concert; particularly, a combination to commit treason, or excite sedition or insurrection against the government of a state; a plot; as a conspiracy against the life of a king; a conspiracy against the government.

More than forty had made this conspiracy. Acts 23.

2. In law, an agreement between two or more persons, falsely and maliciously to indict, or procure to be indicted, an innocent person of felony.
Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws. — Mayer Amsched Rothchild, a prominent European banker in the eighteenth century
If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. — Thomas Jefferson
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. — Thomas Jefferson
The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. — Curtis Dall (Franklin D. Roosevelt’s son-in-law), My Exploited Father-in-Law
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. — President Woodrow Wilson, 1913
This Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Wilson) signs this bill the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalized. — Hon. Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., Dec. 23, 1913
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominate men. I have unwittingly betrayed my country. — President Woodrow Wilson, 1916
In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press... They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers... An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers. — U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen... At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties. — New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire. — Winston Churchill, l922.
We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. — Professor Arnold Toynbee, l931 Institute for the Study of International Affairs.
For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support...
The UN is but a long range, international banking apparatus nearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One World Revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power... The depression was the calculated ’shearing’ of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market... The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. — Curtis Dall, from My Exploited Father-in-Law
The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson. — letter to Colonel House by Franklin D. Roosevelt, November 21st, l933
Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure." — Joseph Kennedy, July 26th, l936 New York Times.
We shall have world government whether or not you like it by conquest or consent. — James Warburg member Council on Foreign Relations speaking before Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes. — Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952
Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government a bureaucratic elite. — Senator William Jenner, 1954
The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for “the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all powerful one world government.” — Harpers magazine, l958
The case for government by elites is irrefutable. — Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 1963
The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation states involved. As managers and creators of the system they will rule the future. — Senator Barry Goldwater l964 from his book: With No Apologies
The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland; a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds’ central banks, which were themselves, private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups. — Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time 1966, Professor Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University.
The Council on Foreign Relations is “the establishment.” Not only does it have influence and power in key decision making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one world dictatorship. — Congressman John Rarick 1971
The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent; all under their control... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent. — Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976
I never thought the Federal Reserve System would prove such a failure. The country is in a state of irretrievable bankruptcy. — Senator Carter Glass 1983
We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries. — David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, address to The Trilateral Commission, June, 1991.
In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all. — Strobe Talbott, Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, l992

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quotes from: SovereignFellowship . com

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Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


Ezekiel 28
11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
 
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I really like your posts, zone.
Timothy 6:10 sums is all up, doesn't it..
 
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

This document is from 100 years ago and it has many interesting things in it for those who have allot of time to read it, it takes about 6 hours to read if I remember right.

It has things in there about having homosexuality taking power positions everywhere, it has very evil ideas that most of us wouldn't consider.

If you don't believe there is an ongoing conspiracy then you don't believe that greedy evil people groups that want to take over the world in the past just wave there arms and give up getting weaker and weaker instead of stronger and stronger, no matter how long it takes.


The newest thing the government is doing to help us is this: Fed's $1 Trillion Debt-Buying Plan Loosens Lending and Drains the Dollar
I myself find it disturbing. Just one more step to making the entire planet under one financial system, and when that happens governments will just be figureheads not really have any real power. The ones controlling the money system will be god. (thats what most people will believe)
 
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Some people have said that The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion 100 years ago applied to America at that time,so how much more would it apply now.

If you read the Protocols it seems like America is operating that way.

It seems like America does not push out all their ways at once,but change things little by little,until they get where they want to be,with the 1960's playing a big part in their plan,as it was the start of the youth wanting their way,for they need a society that wants their own way and are selfish and arrogant.

Each president will add a little to the puzzle until they get where they want to be.

Both democrat and republican are in on the plan so it does not matter which one you pick,if you actually do pick the president.

President Bush said that if Homeland Security goes in to effect some of the liberties have to go,and he said that there ought to be a limit to freedoms.

They will use Homeland Security to void out the constitution and have a new constitution.

President Obama said he is a citizen of the world and a citizen of America,so he is for the world,and he will add to the plan,so it will be a slow change.

Both Democrat and Republican are in on the plan.

It is like you have a song you play on the piano and you change it only one note at a time over a period of time and eventually you change the whole song to a completely different song but very slowly and subtle.

Russian President Vladamir Putin visited the German Parliament,with other European nations and said,that Russia and Europe need to put aside their differences and offer peace and safety for the world and themselves.

When Russia and Europe come together and have a constitution,they will tell the world they can offer peace and safety if the follow their lead.

President Bush said that America and Europe need to join together,in which no power on earth can divide them.

The problem is America can never join them because our constitution will not be compatible with Europe's constitution.

They will use Homeland Security to void out the constitution and have a new constitution.

They will convince the american public that they have to have a new constitution because of disasters and problems.

Canada,North America,and Mexico,will all merge as one,supernation number one,one horn of the 10 horn kingdom.

America can work in the world unlike any other nation because of their country that allows any race and religion to be there.

When they went against Iraq they appear as not being prejudiced because of how America operates.

The Arab nations will give Europe the most trouble when they want the world to come together so it is America's job to keep the Arab nations from coming together,and to change the main ones over to a new government so they will fall in line when Europe offers peace and safety for the world.

America's job is to set the world up for Europe and to show the world that all races and religions can live together in harmony.

When Europe offers peace and safety for the world all the Arab governments will fall in line.

The thing is that when Europe offers peace and safety for the world and they go to a 10 horn kingdom,and a one world religious system and a one world government,they will not be able to handle the problems.

All the Arab governments will fall in line but the people of those nations will say that it is an insult to Allah and will go forth with a terrible army and will clash with the world,which is the 6th trumpet of the Bible in Revelation chapter 9.

The 10 horn kingdom will not be able to handle the problems and that war will be so terrible that the world will look for another solution,and God said they will repent of their evil deeds and will not turn to Him so God gives them the antichrkist.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.They will use chaos to bring about the antichrist system.America will use problems to void out the constitution.The 10 horn kingdom will use problems to bring about the antichrist system.


Matt
 

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Zone, very interesting source of info. I had to do a little research to accompany "rumors" I have heard. The Federal Central Banking System, was of course, established by the Rothschild family as you pointed out. My understanding from viewing the web site Rothschild.com - Welcome to Rothschild is a highly organized "in the family, started with family and after 200 years remains in the family. Their control was in the strength of keeping it in the family. Their wealth is obtained from global avenues. I have only one "rumor" that I feel has some real validity. That is, who benefits most from wars? Those who loan the money? Yep, so if you want to talk conspiracies, ask yourself who really started the wars? Are they as we are told? Why the "war on mass destruction"? Which we never hear anymore that phrase. The conspiracy "theories" on past wars may not be so much as a theory but those in the know and tell. What is the deficit and loss of lives since 9/11? The copyrights on the rothschild website I take very seriously and those who want to read it right from the horses mouth should check out this enormous Rothschild web site. Federal Reserve is a fancy name for the central banking system that the Rothschild own and operate all over the world. It has no ties to our Federal government!!
 
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Zone
Excellent presentation. The Tower of Babel in Genesis 11 was Man's first attempt to "Unite" everyone under One Leader. Now thousands of years later with computers it can finally be accomplished. This takes care of the One World Government Scheme of Things right now with the Tri-Lateral Commission.
CFR, World Court in The Hague, The UN etc etc.

The One World Church will arise as well. Where the False Prophet will come from. So we will have the "Beast" controlling the One World Order, and The "False Prophet" the head of The one World Church.

If you don't join THAT CHURCH you simply will be eliminated. There won't be any competition to debate or argue with...
 

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Zone, very interesting source of info. I had to do a little research to accompany "rumors" I have heard. The Federal Central Banking System, was of course, established by the Rothschild family as you pointed out. My understanding from viewing the web site Rothschild.com - Welcome to Rothschild is a highly organized "in the family, started with family and after 200 years remains in the family. Their control was in the strength of keeping it in the family. Their wealth is obtained from global avenues. I have only one "rumor" that I feel has some real validity. That is, who benefits most from wars? Those who loan the money? Yep, so if you want to talk conspiracies, ask yourself who really started the wars? Are they as we are told? Why the "war on mass destruction"? Which we never hear anymore that phrase. The conspiracy "theories" on past wars may not be so much as a theory but those in the know and tell. What is the deficit and loss of lives since 9/11? The copyrights on the rothschild website I take very seriously and those who want to read it right from the horses mouth should check out this enormous Rothschild web site. Federal Reserve is a fancy name for the central banking system that the Rothschild own and operate all over the world. It has no ties to our Federal government!!

yes, WLTx, it's true.
however, the Rothschilds are NOT at the top of the pyramid.
there is another group up there.
the capstone of the pyramid is Satan, but there's a power between all we've discussed and him.

here's a fascinating photo of one of the buildings the elite have prepared for themselves as they construct their utopian city-states AWAY from North america (which is slated to become a slave plantation). this building is in Astana, Kazakhstan.

any image search for occult elite cities will bring up the thousands that have appeared while we have been dumbed down and distracted by the "performance" of the actors.

look carefully at the occult symbolism (hardly hidden) in this building. it shows their satanic religion, but see the PROFANE (you and me) at the bottom, watching the events take place on according to ACTORS on a stage? that's us believing what they have laid out as reality.

then above that they show STAIRWAYS, LADDERS if you will (degrees) to the higher echelon where the power elite at a round table, surrounded by lush gardens, planning their world, unknown to those below.

then.....over the power elite at the ROUND TABLE (hint: Milner Group, Cecil Rhodes, Templars, etc), we see the as yet hidden power above them (i will point to the most hidden group shortly)

this is a real building, in a real city, prepared for the elite and guarded by chemically and genetically altered soldiers who believed they have gone to fight a war on terror. these cities are everywhere. they are all TOTALLY OCCULT, and they all have places for ritual sacrifices (the devils that run this world age have been making sacrifices to their god satan - whatever name they give him - in every war under the hands of despots they themselves have installed. but don't take my word for it.

in any case, i have found that though many people are awake to this stuff, it's only BLOOD BOUGHT CHRISTIANS that truly understand the significance. the coming one world religion is NOT new age. it's very old.

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here's an elevation illustration of the building: the photo below it is the "theatre" BELOW GROUND: remember that HYPOCRITE means ACTOR.














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Palace of Peace and Reconciliation

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Palace of Peace and Reconciliation


The Palace of Peace and Reconciliation (also translated as the Pyramid of Peace and Accord) is a 77 m high building in Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan. The structure was built by Sembol Construction at a cost of 8.74 billion Kazakh tenge (about $58 million) and opened in late 2006.
The pyramid portion of the building is 62 m high which sits on a 15 m high earth covered block. All of this construction is above ground level. Though the landscaping of the park rises up to cover the lower levels, these are not in fact basements.

It was designed by the British architects Foster and Partners (lead design). Turkish architects, Tabanlioglu Architecture undertook construction information packages for the Foster design and engineers Buro Happold undertook lead structural and services design. The Foster team was led by architects Nigel Dancey, Lee Hallman and Peter Ridley. Sembol Construction undertook a Design and Build contract, and were ultimately responsible for the final details and finishes, some of which varied considerably from the Foster and Tabanlioglu intent.

The design is of five "storeys" of triangles, each triangle being 12 m on a side. The lower portions, three "storeys" of triangles, are clad in pale granite. The upper two rows of triangles, 4 triangles per side, form a glazed apex; instead of stone cladding the triangles of the apex feature a design of stained glass by Brian Clarke, incorporating doves.

Construction is of steel frame for the pyramid and concrete for the lower levels. The engineers had to design the building to withstand expansion and contraction due to temperature variations of over 80°C, from -40 to over 40°C - leading to an expansion of the building of up to 30cm.

The Pyramid was specially constructed to host the Congress of Leaders of World and Traditional Religions. A 1,500-seat opera house is built into the lower levels, with auditorium and performance equipment design by Anne Minors Performance Consultants and acoustics by Sound Space Design.

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more on occult cities worldwide to come:

keep in mind most of the people involved in this are useful idiots: it has not been revealed to them what is at the top.

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zone

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Zone
Excellent presentation. The Tower of Babel in Genesis 11 was Man's first attempt to "Unite" everyone under One Leader. Now thousands of years later with computers it can finally be accomplished. This takes care of the One World Government Scheme of Things right now with the Tri-Lateral Commission.
CFR, World Court in The Hague, The UN etc etc.

The One World Church will arise as well. Where the False Prophet will come from. So we will have the "Beast" controlling the One World Order, and The "False Prophet" the head of The one World Church.

If you don't join THAT CHURCH you simply will be eliminated. There won't be any competition to debate or argue with...

thanks ricke.
as i know we all have, i've worked very hard, day and night since Jesus saved me. i've cried endlessly, felt utterly alone at times, but am carried forward by a desire to do anything i can to wake up the saints to what HAS ALREADY HAPPENED and to prepare for what is coming to pass.

you're right that we will have to make a choice: CHRIST or the god of this world. but he won't appear in Russia or Rome or Brussels. he's going to appear on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

those who think they're flying away somewhere are still asleep: that pretrib theory is no accident, and it is not new (2 Thessalonians 2).

we have to have the love of the Truth, at any cost to ourselves, and if it's our destiny, to go down speaking it boldly: JESUS CHRIST suffered agony and death to rescue whomsoever will, not from what these devils have planned, but from what God has coming as a result of rebellion and sin: WRATH.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


satan blinds those who believe not: but not everyone WANTS to remain blind and lost - that's what we are here for, to carry the Glorious Gospel of Christ. He has provided the complete and only way out of this. i ask you to soberly consider: WHO IN THIS WORLD TODAY HATES JESUS CHRIST MORE THAN ANY OTHERS?

surely not those who have never heard of Him.

Peace:)
love zone.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
 

zone

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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

This document is from 100 years ago and it has many interesting things in it for those who have allot of time to read it, it takes about 6 hours to read if I remember right.

It has things in there about having homosexuality taking power positions everywhere, it has very evil ideas that most of us wouldn't consider.

If you don't believe there is an ongoing conspiracy then you don't believe that greedy evil people groups that want to take over the world in the past just wave there arms and give up getting weaker and weaker instead of stronger and stronger, no matter how long it takes.


The newest thing the government is doing to help us is this: Fed's $1 Trillion Debt-Buying Plan Loosens Lending and Drains the Dollar
I myself find it disturbing. Just one more step to making the entire planet under one financial system, and when that happens governments will just be figureheads not really have any real power. The ones controlling the money system will be god. (thats what most people will believe)

there's so much controversy surrounding the Protocols, why not just go to THE ZOHAR.
 

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[FONT=&quot]Keeping to Biblical literal interpretations, I am watching current news of Turkey, Istanbul, PM Erdogan, EU, Israel, and Jerusalem. In addition I am studying to know and understand Islamic prophecies regarding Jesus (Isa) and his Second Coming according to the Muslim/Islamic beliefs. The following is a possible false prophet: [/FONT]
·[FONT=&quot] Matthew 24:23
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
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· Mark 13:21
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
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Already the stage has been set for End Times and “here is Christ, or there”, however dear saints do not believe this lie. Read on and you will know and understand that the Muslim faith expect Jesus (Isa) to descend and end wars and make peace very very very soon and they believe he may be here already and has not have himself yet. So specific is their prophecy the author declares how long Jesus will be here, what he does, he marries and then after the appointed time he will make war against Gog/Magog and then ascend back to heaven. Of course, while a few similarities of our Holy Bible, there are more “deceptions..ie lies in the Muslim Quaran and the learned interpretaors of the Quaran”.
Daniel 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

[FONT=&quot]I’ve given a great deal of thought and research regarding the “and think to change times and laws”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Islam/Muslims have a calendar that began count at Muhammad time (not sure if it is time of his death or birth). At this time in Islamic calendar, it is 1400’ish years. At this time they no longer are using that calendar and have adopted the Gregorian calendar. (And in my thought, wouldn’t it be amazing if the whole world was also on Zulu time? Not only One World Government, One World Religion, One World Money system, but even a one world calendar and clock.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesus, as prophesied here by Mufti A.H. Elias, in this article and that Isa will change the religion to the “only true religion” – ie Muslim/Islam. (Change, in their way of thinking, Christian and Jewish false laws.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So here we have the deception Jesus warned about the false Christ, which according to this article we are in the End Times and Muslims are expecting the end prophecies to be revealed any day soon.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Also, the Bible has a lot of translations and therefore rejected because the meanings have changed with new translations and also it is not the final “Holy Book” as the Quran is.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So, what I am presenting here is 4 things happening in and from the East: not the West, as so many of the West eschatologist want to interpret the Bible from a western point of view.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]False Christ (deceiving even the elect if possible and even the Jews who believe that the Messiah has not come and will come)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]False Prophet[/FONT] (Christians will not ever call Jesus a prophet – this is “speak great words against the most High”)[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Think Cange of times (Islam calendar and Zulu time)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Think Change of laws (Quran only laws that are considered correct) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Additionally, there are many underground structures that mostly those who have money can build monolithic. Perhaps they are stock piling food and supplies in anticipation of the December 21, 2012 world event of destruction. The day after and the world is still as was before, where will they turn next? Desiring a changed world – ready (prepared) for the New World?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And lastly, all these conspiracies are great to get us on the that trail, but is it just another bait and switch, and “the tail is wagging the dog”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The following url is too long and probably would not be read if posted, so if this is interest to you here it is:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/jesus.html[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Title: Jesus (Isa) A.S. in Islam, and his Second Coming [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]by Mufti A.H. Elias [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I. Jesus (A.S.) In Islam[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
 

zone

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[FONT=&quot]Keeping to Biblical literal interpretations, I am watching current news of Turkey, Istanbul, PM Erdogan, EU, Israel, and Jerusalem. In addition I am studying to know and understand Islamic prophecies regarding Jesus (Isa) and his Second Coming according to the Muslim/Islamic beliefs. The following is a possible false prophet: [/FONT]
·[FONT=&quot] Matthew 24:23[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.[/FONT]
· Mark 13:21
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

Already the stage has been set for End Times and “here is Christ, or there”, however dear saints do not believe this lie. Read on and you will know and understand that the Muslim faith expect Jesus (Isa) to descend and end wars and make peace very very very soon and they believe he may be here already and has not have himself yet. So specific is their prophecy the author declares how long Jesus will be here, what he does, he marries and then after the appointed time he will make war against Gog/Magog and then ascend back to heaven. Of course, while a few similarities of our Holy Bible, there are more “deceptions..ie lies in the Muslim Quaran and the learned interpretaors of the Quaran”.
Daniel 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
[FONT=&quot]I’ve given a great deal of thought and research regarding the “and think to change times and laws”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Islam/Muslims have a calendar that began count at Muhammad time (not sure if it is time of his death or birth). At this time in Islamic calendar, it is 1400’ish years. At this time they no longer are using that calendar and have adopted the Gregorian calendar. (And in my thought, wouldn’t it be amazing if the whole world was also on Zulu time? Not only One World Government, One World Religion, One World Money system, but even a one world calendar and clock.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesus, as prophesied here by Mufti A.H. Elias, in this article and that Isa will change the religion to the “only true religion” – ie Muslim/Islam. (Change, in their way of thinking, Christian and Jewish false laws.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So here we have the deception Jesus warned about the false Christ, which according to this article we are in the End Times and Muslims are expecting the end prophecies to be revealed any day soon.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Also, the Bible has a lot of translations and therefore rejected because the meanings have changed with new translations and also it is not the final “Holy Book” as the Quran is.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So, what I am presenting here is 4 things happening in and from the East: not the West, as so many of the West eschatologist want to interpret the Bible from a western point of view.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]False Christ (deceiving even the elect if possible and even the Jews who believe that the Messiah has not come and will come)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]False Prophet[/FONT] (Christians will not ever call Jesus a prophet – this is “speak great words against the most High”)
[FONT=&quot]3) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Think Cange of times (Islam calendar and Zulu time)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Think Change of laws (Quran only laws that are considered correct) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Additionally, there are many underground structures that mostly those who have money can build monolithic. Perhaps they are stock piling food and supplies in anticipation of the December 21, 2012 world event of destruction. The day after and the world is still as was before, where will they turn next? Desiring a changed world – ready (prepared) for the New World?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And lastly, all these conspiracies are great to get us on the that trail, but is it just another bait and switch, and “the tail is wagging the dog”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The following url is too long and probably would not be read if posted, so if this is interest to you here it is:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/jesus.html[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Title: Jesus (Isa) A.S. in Islam, and his Second Coming [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]by Mufti A.H. Elias [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I. Jesus (A.S.) In Islam[/FONT]
hey WLTx
all three so-called Abrahamic faiths are anticipating a messiah (naturally ours has come once already).

Islam is not the only one of those that want to change times and laws.

Judaism also has their own calendar that does not revolve around Jesus.
they are also introducing a set of LAWS for the whole world.....

gtg
later, love zone.