Sounds awful but it's how I feel

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supernova1976

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I have been walking with God for over 20 years now. Lately, I am unmoved by anything. The Bible is looking more like a great work of fiction to me and I am seeing everyone as fake and liars in the religous community most of the time. I went to service yesterday for example and the preacher was going on and on about the same ol same ol- sermons I have heard for years about Jesus saving us from hell, and I am just not feeling it. My thought bubble went something like this-
"yeah we will see how much you love God when he takes away your friends, status in the world, your loving wife and children and your health" sounds awful I know- but I cannot control my thougths I can only control how I respond to them. So I just nodded and smiled the rest of the day with friends and relatives as if I was totally on board. The truth? I thought- "what if this is all a made up story?" there are so many times the bible confuses me. For starters, it states- "all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved" yet it states very clearly in Matthew that "only a few" will find that narrow road. So on the day of judgement I think everyone will pretty much be freaking out and calling on the name of the Lord? no? then we are all good, unless that piece of scripture is a total lie.

I often wonder how many Christians are living for God in their private lives when they don't have a human audience- only God- and I gotta say, even a woman that serves in the church has admitted to me her preverse thoughts on masterbation- and I know a man that served in the children's ministry that had everyone fooled and was taken off the board for child abuse- so people to me? I think are full of crap. I am even full of crap- but at least I will admit it openly- I often wonder what it is all for.
 
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I have been walking with God for over 20 years now. Lately, I am unmoved by anything. The Bible is looking more like a great work of fiction to me and I am seeing everyone as fake and liars in the religous community most of the time. I went to service yesterday for example and the preacher was going on and on about the same ol same ol- sermons I have heard for years about Jesus saving us from hell, and I am just not feeling it. My thought bubble went something like this-
"yeah we will see how much you love God when he takes away your friends, status in the world, your loving wife and children and your health" sounds awful I know- but I cannot control my thougths I can only control how I respond to them. So I just nodded and smiled the rest of the day with friends and relatives as if I was totally on board. The truth? I thought- "what if this is all a made up story?" there are so many times the bible confuses me. For starters, it states- "all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved" yet it states very clearly in Matthew that "only a few" will find that narrow road. So on the day of judgement I think everyone will pretty much be freaking out and calling on the name of the Lord? no? then we are all good, unless that piece of scripture is a total lie.

I often wonder how many Christians are living for God in their private lives when they don't have a human audience- only God- and I gotta say, even a woman that serves in the church has admitted to me her preverse thoughts on masterbation- and I know a man that served in the children's ministry that had everyone fooled and was taken off the board for child abuse- so people to me? I think are full of crap. I am even full of crap- but at least I will admit it openly- I often wonder what it is all for.
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Sometimes it's incredibly hard to keep faith. Especially with all the pride, complacency and compromise that I see, that I hear, and even that I feel. Sometimes it's very overwhealming.

I've been wrestling with some things myself lately. Debating on whether or not I should leave my current church due to the fact that they talk the talk yet rarely walk the walk. Yet, I can't point the finger at them because I am just as guilty.

The first step to making things right is the initial realization that something is wrong. The most we can do is pray about it in the hopes that God will lead us through this difficult time.
 
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I can't fault you for how you "feel" but remember we walk by faith, not by feeling. So the preacher is preaching the same old message...that's because it's the only message - the saving grace of Jesus Christ. There is no new message, it doesn't change. If you want to go deeper in the scriptures join a study group or get involved in a good sunday school class.

You said "yeah we will see how much you love God when he takes away your friends, status in the world, your loving wife and children and your health"
Hmmmm... how come God always seems to get the blame for this. Satan is the destroyer. Why not point your anger toward him.

Count me as one who is living for God in their private life, BUT... I'm just a man in the flesh and there is a constant struggle between flesh and spirit.

Don't make your decisions about Christianity based on how people act and think. Use Christ as your role model.

I'm going to take a guess and say that you are probably not praying much and not staying in the word daily. When you get away from God there is a void that Satan is most happy to fill. It takes action on your part to stay in fellowship with God.

You really want to see how real God is? Do you really? Let's see how serious you are. Take a trip out of the country with a missionary group. You will see and experience things of God like you have never imagined. I know, I've done it several times. It will change your life!

Take care my brother
 
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Ps 139:23Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:Ps 139:24And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

it is the key word that we need to focus on, and sometimes the key words are the little words, Here the key word in these scriptures and in your situation is MY. we can't focus on what others are doing, we can't say that we are right and they are all wrong, or they are right and I am wrong. You have a walk with The Almighty Creator of the universe, the Lord God Jehova, Himself. He loves you regardless of what you do, and in return exspects nothing less of you to love Him in return. I don't know what all you have lost due to your walk with Him, but I have found in Life when we get down to where we have nothing but the Love of God to lean on, then we should realize that The Love of God is all we need. I had to bury my oldest daughter at the ripe young age of 19. I could have gotten Mad at My God, but I praised Him for allowing me to have a daughter and for 19 years with her and also realize the fact, and you need this right now. God gave you and I everything that was precious to Him when He allowed His Son to die for us. Now from what you are telling me from this thread is that we are to only love Him when He is pouring out blessing upon blessing on us, but through our weakness and He starts withdrawing some of those blessings then He is no longer a good God and we should, not serve Him anymore. He was a Good God when He gave me a Child but a mean God when he called that child home, No no no come on pleeeaaassseee. the devil Which I hate now with a passion told me one day that he was going to take my home, I told him that there was no way he could take everything that I had away from me, for he could never take MY Jesus! But don't Judge God by christians, churches and the way they treat others, but rather judge God by the love that He poured out on Calvary for You Get personal with Himand see how He stands.


Ro 8:16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:Ro 8:17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Ro 8:18For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
 
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Why was this person banned? He had a genuine and valid expression that is a good leaning point for anyone who may stumble across this page.
I hope he is being counselled.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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Mandel said:
Why was this person banned? He had a genuine and valid expression that is a good leaning point for anyone who may stumble across this page.
I hope he is being counselled.
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while i'm not certain what the person did in order to be banned, i do know it happened in chat and not in the forums.
 
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in this times the bible say:
Mattew 13:3
Then he told them..:A farmer went out to sow his seed.As he was scattering the seed,some feel along the path,and the birds came and ate it up.Some fell on rocky places,Where it did not have much soil.It sprang up quickly,because the soil was shallow.But when the sun came up ,the plants were scorched,and they withered because they had no root.other seed fell among thorns,which grew up and choked the plants.Still other seed on good soil,where it produced a crop a hundred.....

when anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it,the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart.
This is the seed sown along path.The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy.
But since he has no root,he last only a schort time.When trouble or persecution comes because of the word,he quickly falls away.The one whon received the seed that fell among the thorns is tha man who hears the word,but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealt choke it, making it unfruitful.
But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understand it.
He produces a crop,yielding a hundred,sixty or thirty times what was sown.
 
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I'de have to say the older guy's views about the same old sermon yr after yr is quite possably boring him to consider sinnng himself ( if u get my drift )..and others because they are not spending the time in Gods truth or word also a circle of concern or study group these really do concentrate on how we are doing in our christian walk everday including weekdays..i had one of my closest friends at work take a 2 yr break to go on a missionary run from Australia to the PHILLIPINNES and basically went and spread the good news there for a whole 2 yrs straight ( how more rewarding ) in heaven is that !! than sitting bored out you're brains every weekend hoping to dicuss some weird sex crimes between felow christians... i can't judge the thoughts of the man but i can try and pass on a few important facts in simple terms hopefully not as boring as his usual pastors efforts ...try and read OR MEMORISE THESE FEW TRUTHS.. 1. James 4:8 = Draw close to God and God will draw close to You !! or 2. Mat 6:13 = Do not cause us to be tempted, but save us from the evil one. 3. 1Peter 2:11 Dear friends, you are like foreigners and strangers in this world, I beg you to avoid the evil things you're bodies want you to do that fight against you're soul....

Anyways i'm looking for a few answers from like minded Christians myself .. the main one is how do i get an un believer to believe in the truth and the light..or test their own beliefs without pushing to far?

Plz assisit if anyone has any good ways to get the initial do you know God or Jesus " question cos 9 out of 10 will say yes..but mean not persoanlly or faithfully etc etc..ok it's my sister who i Love with all my heart and even my prayers are somewhat being answered in regard to her readng the bible but has no real belief yet??? any helpers out there??

regs & Good faith 2 all,

Seth.
 
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Sethias,

I had some difficulty understanding the first part of your post. I think you were referring to what I had posted. If not, I apologize and just disregard my ramblings.

Who was bored and considering sinning due to the same old sermons? And the "weird sex crimes between fellow Christians" went over my head. Help me out here...
Thanks
 
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kind of understand how he feels, my church that i grew up in fell apart because 'christians' started fussing over a funeral and someone inheritance. the pastor was accused and ended up being ran out of church, this was a man i was close to, he came to all of my baseball games and even to some college games far away, but now that i do not regularly attend church, i am outside looking in so to speak. and i realize why alot of non believers act the way they do towards christians, its almost like the middle ages when the christian church and the crusades and all that stuff went on but on a smaller scale. i am a believer and a christian, however, i feel pushed away by churches and i have a hard time believing what alot of ministers say because it simply is silly. anyway. don't reply to me with the usual jibber jabber, i was just letting out how i've felt lately
 
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