Are you in the 95% of all Christians???

[DiscipleWilliam]

Greetings all,

Recently I was going through mountains of documents regarding secret societies and their connection to the Babylon and Egyptian mystery religions and realized something startling. I didn't just realize that they were pagan, or that they perverted the Word of God; I already knew that, but that 95% of Christians do in like manner as they. Ask yourself this: am I worshiping the "God" of the Most High or am I worshiping the "god" of the Babylon mystery religion. The answer might not be as obvious as it seems. Satan has been working to establish his dominance on Earth since his fall, and since then he has been extremely successful in corrupting truth and spreading falsehood. From now on (BMR) will be used in place of the Babylon Mystery Religion, and (TC) will be used for True Christianity.

(TC) is being the sons of God, living according to the will and commandments of the Most High, being a disciple of Christ Jesus. If you deliberately break the commandments on a regular basis, how are you a child of the Most High? Christians willfully neglect the Sabbath, they exchange it for the (BMR) first day of the week observance and dedication to the Egyptian sun-god Horus. This god was said to "rise from darkness" hence what we now call the Horus-on (Horizon). The rising of the (BMR) sun-god Horus. He is said to be the light-bearer or "Lucifer" the sun of god. Men and women of God were worshiping the Most High on the Sabbath since the beginning until the Roman emperor Constantine changed the observance the Most High to the first day of the week, combining the pagan (BMR) with the worship dedicated to the Most High.

Constantine was a pagan emperor. Don't let anyone lie to you, he never converted to Christianity, he only permitted it to exist for political reasons. If he didn't permit it to exist his empire would have most likely suffered a fatal blow. It's interesting that after his so-called "conversion" he caused the execution of his brother-in-law Licinius, his son, as well as of Crispus his own son by his first marriage, and of his wife Fausta. Does that sound Christian? Do not be deceived folks. We are still to keep the 4th commandment as the observance of the Most High. Anything else is (BMR) worship, do not let these false prophets deceive you folks {Matt 5:19}. Don't let the lie of Satan convince you that "it is symbolic of the resurrection of Jesus and blah blah blah. Wearing crosses are strictly abhorred within (TC) because it is a cursed symbol, symbolizing an instrument of death in which the (BMR) embraces and uses in their ceremonies, this is why some many unbelievers do not hesitate to adorn themselves with this accursed symbol. Here Satan is again using his lies about the cross saying, "it's symbolic of (TC)". Do not be deceived folks.

Are you allowing workers of iniquity to pervert the Holy Word of God? To pervert the Word of God is to re-arrange the meaning of doctrines and precepts of God by either adding or taking away from truth. I recently visited family in Washington, D.C. and discovered that the man who married my 1st cousin was a ranking member of the Scottish rite Freemasonry. Upon him finding out that I'm was a born-again Christian he asked me, "just out of curiosity, what Bible do you read?". I explained to him that I am partial to the KJV and he said that I should consider the NIV because "We funded almost the entire project, and many translators on the board were/are Freemasons, and the Southern Baptist denomination has the largest Freemason populous in the U.S. and after a while, not only they, but the majority of "Christian denominations" will all convert over to the NIV as a main translation as well because this is the Bible that We read in the Masonic lodges, and many of Your pastors are blue lodge members of Freemasonry". My mouth almost hit the floor because he said it like it was already set in stone.

The reason why many call themselves: Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics, Calvinists, Armenians etc. is because (BMR) has trained people to pledge allegiance to particular orders and sects in order to divide the body because they feel as though (TC) stole the doctrines and precepts from their ancient (BMR). It goes back to Martin Luther who belonged to the 'rose of the cross' secret society and also had a deep seated dislike for Jews. If you call yourself a Protestant you still fall under the Roman umbrella. You have never really separated, the only thing that you are doing is protesting the infallibility of the Pope. Folks we need to wake up! If you are a true child of the Most High you do not pledge allegiance to anyone or anything. Our membership is in Heaven. You should call yourself a Christian, or a disciple of Jesus Christ and only that, be careful of these deceitful memberships to questionable organizations and Churches. Read and study everything regarding your respective Church because God's people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge {Hosea 4:6}.

Americans, as well as people who reside within Democracies are usually more argumentative than most because Democracies condition people to behave in this manner to "resolve differences". However, differences don't get resolved in this manner, it takes unity to resolve differences within a collective organization. This deceit is called systematic behavioral modification. Whenever people argue what really gets accomplished? I am not a Communist, Socialist, or Fascist but I do think that Democracy is a terrible form of Gov't and they have been proven not to last long. 5 people choosing to murder 4 innocent people can be seen as a pure and un-corrupted Democracy. I believe that a Constitutional Republic would be more beneficial but I'm not going to elaborate on this matter because this is not a Political treatise. We as men and women have to realize that we are either going to stand for something or not, and the only one we can completely rely on is God, and if you are not willing to stand for something, what good are you, you might as well take the mark now.

Many Christians are accepting defeatism saying, "Jesus is coming back so why bother, why get too political" or "I'm not going to worry about conspiracy theories because Jesus is coming back" or "if you trust Jesus it will all work out". This is a damaging ideology that causes the enslavement of the mind and produces pacifism. This mentality stems from lord Authur Balfour who was highly connected to the Rothschild Illuminati banking family as well as having a background in the occult (BMR). This is very interesting because there was a Rothschild banking agent named Jacob Schiff, who was one of the funders for Cyrus Scofield's study bible which replaced the KJV in most seminaries in the US and promoted John Nelson Darby's view of futuristic prophecy. This was originally engineered to put Christians into a state of complacency. I am not trying to force anyone to believe anything, I am just producing the facts about what is REALLY going on and that if Jesus Christ did come today 95% of Christians would not like what He would have to say or His judgment {Matt 7:13}. We must ask ourselves "is this information applying to me?". The information has been provided, whether you choose to accept it is on you, but one thing that you cannot say is that you never heard it.


May the grace of the Most High and the finished work of our Lord Christ Jesus keep you.
DiscipleWilliam

 

[zone]

Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God....

this just isn't good enough for some men.
so i guess they prefer to be debtors to the Law.
sad.

 

[jimmydiggs]

This is why you should become an Independent Baptist, they're the only True Christians™

(/joke)

I do like the paragraph about Constantine though. One of the many who tried to get me to place my faith in Christ in the past, did not know much about Constantine. I explained to him, that most modern "christianity" is highly influenced by the paganism of Constantine, and that Constantine "converted" because many people in the Byzantine Empire already had. To put that into perspective, it would be the same kind of stuff that many Americans talk about when on the subject of, "Muslims ruling America."



Freemasons...

Excerpt from SBC.

19. What is the SBC's stance on "Freemasonry?"
The SBC passed a resolution in 1992 opposing membership and participation in organizations that contradict the Bible (SBC Resolution: RESOLUTION ON CHRISTIAN WITNESS AND VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS), but these resolutions are not binding upon local churches.
In its 1993 report, the SBC stated that there were aspects of Freemasonry that are incompatible with Christianity. The main conclusion of the report states:
We conclude that many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity or Southern Baptist doctrine.
The North American Mission Board of the SBC has published several articles critical of Freemasonry. They are available for reading or downloading on their web site at:

About Us - Basic Beliefs <---- click



I would be more concerned about the 95% of us Christians (note: I said US) who are spiritual cripples.
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[TheTruthWillSetYouFree]

Where did you get the stats of 95%?

 

[jimmydiggs]

@truthwillsetyoufree

Don't you know? 56% of statistics are made up on the spot.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

This is why you should become an Independent Baptist, they're the only True Christians

 

[jimmydiggs]

@Disciple
You're response appears a bit jumbly.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Greetings Jimmydiggs,

Independent Baptists, even they are not truly independent. Their independence depends relatively upon the local Church in question, and what they claim to be independent from lol. I have read that resolution my brother and thank you for doing your "due diligence", many would not labor to do even that much. What is important to keep in perspective is that they are not against Freemasonry in it's entirety, just against certain offshoots of the organization like the 'knights of Malta', 'Illuminati' and the 'knights Templar'. Here's a couple problems with the specified resolution: The higher ranks of Freemasonry do not reveal themselves to be among these groups, and will deny it unto the death, so because of this only fellow brethren are aware of who's a member and who's not. They will claim to be whoever they need to be if it means accomplishing what they hope to accomplish. Freemasons do not believe that any sect of Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity because they will admit to reading the Bible and even say that they follow certain "principles" of Jesus. Basically, the resolution is a joke because you cannot stop the infiltration of these individuals, the only One that can stop them is the One True God and for whatever reason, IDK, He is allowing this to exist for a season.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I did not attempt to argue you can't stop infiltration. Infiltration of some kind of biblical-no-no is in every church I've ever seen, of some form.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Where did you get the stats of 95%?

Greetings TTWSYF,

From my personal research statistics and statistics of my colleges. We surveyed 8 different "Christian" denominations and asked them numerous questions regarding, not only what they believed, but why they believed it, how long have they believed what they believed, and so on. It took roughly about 9 months to calculate all the data but 95% is what was based on our conclusions. Roughly 2,200 people were studied in 3 differing states. Florida, Tennessee, and New York. Think about it, how many Christians can readily delve into this type of information, or who even know in detail about this information? I haven't met too many at all. This is the foundational basis for my research statistics.

 

[tryingtofindhim]

I'll stick with the Romans road of salvations
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, &#8220;Jesus is Lord,&#8221; and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
After that we are reminded how nothing can separate us from God
Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Also about celebrating Sabbath on Sunday, not a big deal its not going to send you to hell and the only reason Christians do is because Christ resurrected on Saturday.

 

[TheTruthWillSetYouFree]

Greetings TTWSYF,

From my personal research statistics and statistics of my colleges. We surveyed 8 different "Christian" denominations and asked them numerous questions regarding, not only what they believed, but why they believed it, how long have they believed what they believed, and so on. It took roughly about 9 months to calculate all the data but 95% is what was based on our conclusions. Roughly 2,200 people were studied in 3 differing states. Florida, Tennessee, and New York. Think about it, how many Christians can readily delve into this type of information, or who even know in detail about this information? I haven't met too many at all. This is the foundational basis for my research statistics.

Do you have a paper published online? I'd like to see it. It sounds very interesting!

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Do you have a paper published online? I'd like to see it. It sounds very interesting!

Greetings TTWSYF,

If you are genuinely interested you can feel free to contact me regarding this matter.

 

[mpaper345]

When I first read the book of Revelation,I thought that Satan deceived the world to follow him,without any direct source of people setting it up for him,but when I studied the different beliefs and the occult of many organizations,it is obvious that the people that are behind wanting the one world government and religious system,are actually setting it up for Lucifer,and deceiving the rest of the world to follow her.

I do not know about Martin Luther dabbling in the occult,but there are many people who claim to be Christian leaders that will cause some to eventually follow the one world government and religious system,which the truth is that the world would never go to the beast system until there is an occultic christianity and much hypocrisy among people who claim to be with Christ.

God warned us of the New Age religion's new christianity,that is given to them by seducing spirits,and are doctrines of devils,which will be the occultic christianity in the one world religious system,and when they do away with all religions,their beliefs will be the standard of the world.

Without an occultic christianity the beast system will not come about,for the one world religious system precedes the beast appearing,which has to have an occultic christianity as part of the one world religious system and not fundamental Christianity,to have all religions as one with an occult base,before the beast can even appear.

The Bible says that perilous times will come,and the traits included are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof,ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Christianity is the standard of the world,and the more hypocritical the people who claim to be with Christ are,the more the world slips in to sin,and closer to the beast system,which they will be pure in their own lives,but not washed from their filthiness,and will not endure the truth of the Bible,but want to hear it their way.

The truth is that the beast system cannot come about,until their is an occultic christianity,that the world recognizes,and does not recognize fundamental Christianity,and there is much hypocrisy among the people who claim fundamental Christianity.

So it would be no wonder that there would be leaders who claim fundamental Christianity,that might have occult tendencies,and whose stance strays from Jesus only,to anyone that seeks the kingdom of God on earth qualifies enough to be able to enter heaven,which there are big names that say that.

The New Age leaders are a given,that they are of the occult with their new age christianity,but you will come to recognize big names of people who claim fundamental Christianity who will stray if they were not already like that.

Search and you will see some leaders who claim fundamental,how they support people who are not in the truth,and stray more away from Jesus only,which it will get worse to where the world will follow all that deceptive christianity as it gains more popularity,and the hypocrites who claim fundamental Christianity will drive them away,and the New Age new christianity will appeal to people more,which some who claim fundamental will be carried away by them.

The beast system can never come about,until the world views fundamental Christianity as a mess,and hypocritical,and hateful,so it is no wonder that we will see things that are far fetched concerning the truth of the Bible,and lots of hypocrites,and leaders who we would of thought I did not think they would ever believe something like that.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Greetings mpaper345,

That was a wonderful posting my brother. It sounds like you have a good understanding of what must transpire. What some fail to realize is the scope of deception that is going to take place, and that's taking place now. Scripture says in Titus 1:16, They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. If you are adopting pagan rituals and influences this verse is referring to you. Your works must be consistent with your beliefs and your beliefs must be consistent with Scripture. People are not realizing how serious this is, but Satan knows. This is why Jesus says in Matthew 10:37-38 that whoever loves these things more then Christ is not worthy of Him. People read this verse but they don't understand the severity of what He's saying, you must be willing to put Jesus first in all things. How can one be worthy of Christ if they put the pagan doctrines of man before Him, or adhere to pagan precepts of occultist ministers of Satan. When Jesus was speaking with the Pharisees he said to them in Matthew 15, "why do you transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? And He could say the same thing to us today in some respect. Many Christians have a false sense of stability thinking that they cannot be, or are not deceived.

Jesus said that not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 7:21. Who are these people? These are so-called Christians, the ones calling Him Lord now. It is he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven. It says that many will have done many wonderful works, you can get a glimpse of the confusion that these souls have, they thought they were doing the right thing but they were deceived the whole time thinking that they were righteous. People think that just because they accept Christ as whatever they have a free boarding pass, but in that verse these people seemed to do a lot by prophesy and confessing Him to be Lord, where did they go wrong? All I'm saying is that they're going to be many souls that are going to have their feelings hurt if they don't wake up. Plain and simple.

 

[loveschild]

rshipped on the 1st Day! (Sunday)


Here are the Bible reasons why Christians must worship on Sunday.
Weekly Sunday Communion
Acts 20:7 proves weekly communion on Sunday (1st Day)
Weekly Sunday Giving
1 Corinthians 16:1-2 proves weekly church collection on Sunday (1st Day)

Weekly Church Attendance every Sunday is Essential!
1st 23 reasons why the first day of the week, Sunday is significance and important exclusively to Christians.
1st Ps 118:22-26 actually prophecies the first day of the week! This messianic prophecy is about the new day God would make when Jesus rose from the dead: Sunday!
1st The first day of the week is a weekly memorial of Jesus' Resurrection While the Lord's Supper is a memorial of the Lord's death, the first day of the week is the weekly memorial of Christ's resurrection! We are told, not to remember Christ's birth on Dec 25, but his death every Sunday via Communion. We are told, not to remember Christ's resurrection once a year at "Easter", but every Sunday, a the anniversary of his resurrection!

The Pentecost of Acts 2:1 fell on a Sunday (1st day)
See the proof
1st Sunday is the weekly memorial of the new creation and our deliverance from sin. Athanasius wrote in 345 AD "The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord's day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord's day as being the memorial of the new creation" (Athanasius, On Sabbath and Circumcision 3).
1st Some over-zealous, but under-learned Sabbath keepers, will state the actual Greek words used in Acts 20:7 & 1 Cor 16:1 actually refer to the weekly Sabbath, not the first day of the week. They say "first day of the week" as all Bibles read, is a mistranslation. The only ones who say this are those who have no knowledge of Greek.
1st The Lord's Day is the first day of the week, the day Jesus rose from the dead.
1st History proves Christians always met on 1st Day and not the Sabbath, right back to the apostolic age. (33 AD) What is even more powerful is that early Christians called the first day, the Lord's Day because it was the day Jesus rose from the dead!
1st The primary meaning behind 1st day worship of Christ, is because that is the day Jesus rose from the dead! The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus was crucified on Friday and rose on the first day. Some Sabbatarian groups, comprehending the power of this argument, actually teach that Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and raised on Saturday.
1st Sunday is not the "Christian Sabbath"! Most churches teach that Sunday is the Sabbath and worship on the first day of the week. These churches are doing the right thing for the wrong reason, and Sabbatarians take advantage of the doctrinal confusion!

Sunday worship is not of pagan origin!
Leo Schreven and other Seventh-day Adventists should be spanked for even quoting from these Bible trashers like The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, because these same authors say BOTH Sunday and Sabbath are of pagan origin in the same books and articles! In fact we consider it dishonest to use Weigall&#8217;s Sunday pagan quotes, without telling the reader that Weigall says the Sabbath is also of pagan origin! Bible trashers are the only ones Sabbatarians can find who say Sunday is of pagan origin!

Does Daniel 7:25 prophecies Sabbath Keepers???
Officially, Seventh-day Adventist&#8217;s teach that Sunday worshippers ARE THE Mark Of The Beast.

Adventists teach the MARK OF THE BEAST is the act of worshipping Jesus on Sunday! With the liberalizing and modernizing of the Adventist church, recent converts are either unaware, or unwilling to accept the current and historic position of their church!
Does Daniel 7:25 prove Sabbath keepers are the mark of the beast?
"He will make alterations in times and in law" (Daniel 7:25)

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Greetings loveschild,

Where to begin... Firstly, keeping the Sabbath Holy is a Biblical commandment. All of God's children kept the sabbath as the Holy day up until the emperor Constantine changed the Holy day to Sunday to accommodate paganism. The disciples did get together on the first day of the week but it was not a commandment to do so. Not only that, they probably got together numerous times during the week due to the influx of new converts. Whatever excuse that you wish to use to justify your view, feel free to use it, but don't say "the Bible says so" because in reality it doesn't, man says so. The Most High is the same yesterday, today, and forever and for Him to change one of His commandments that He instituted goes against His will, therefore no longer making Him perfect. I understand that Rome has been doing this for centuries and many people have a strong allegiance to Rome so keeping the Sabbath would make one unpopular in pseudo-Christian circles so I can understand your resentment but it's not wise to substantiate the traditions of man with the Bible.

 

[mpaper345]

25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time(Daniel 7:25).

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night(1 Thessalonians 5:1-2).


6When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power(Acts 1:6-7).


When the Bible says that the beast will think to change times and laws,it has nothing to do with the sabbath day,and what day people worship Jesus on,but the beast will think to change it,from it is God's operation on earth and what He has going on,to the lie that it all about man(worldy men),and what they got going on.


I do not believe we have to keep the sabbath day,Saturday,which was given as a physical day of rest,because the Bible says that Jesus took the ordinances of Israel,and nailed them to His cross,taken them out of the way,because they were contrary to us,which include the sabbath days,and says let no man judge you concerning the sabbath days,which means they cannot tell you to keep the sabbath days.


The Bible says the ordinances,including the sabbath days,were only a shadow of things to come,but the body is of Christ.When you have the Spirit,you are part of the body of Christ.


I believe that the sabbath days were only given to Israel as a physical day of rest,and does not apply to the New Testament Church.
It seems like it was given to celebrate the physical earth,as a day of rest.


While I do not believe that we have to keep the physical sabbath days,I still believe we have to keep the sabbath,so there must be a way to keep the sabbath without the physical sabbath.


In the Old Testament God says,with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to these people,and this is the rest where you may cause the weary to rest,and this is the refreshing,yet they would not hear.


When you have the Spirit,you are part of the body of Christ,and do not go by the physical sabbath days.


The Spirit gives you rest,which the Bible says,this is the rest where you may cause the weary to rest,and the refreshing.


The physical sabbath was a day of rest,and to refresh them.


When you have the Spirit,it is the rest and the refreshing,and we celebrate the spiritual earth that Jesus went to prepare for the saints.


The Bible says that which is first is natural,then that which is spiritual,and Israel went by a physical sabbath as a day of rest,natural,and then it moved to having the Spirit,a spiritual rest,spiritual,and the Jews celebrated the physical earth,where the saints are strangers passing through the land,and celebrate the spiritual earth.


The Bible says when you have the Spirit,you are part of the body of Christ,and do not go by the ordinances of Israel,which include the physical sabbath days,which no man can judge you and tell you to keep the physical sabbath days,and this is the rest to cause the weary to rest,not a physical rest,but a spiritual rest,but some would not hear.


God said some would not hear,but want to tell people to keep the physical sabbath days,that Jesus nailed to His cross,taking it out of the way,which we do not go by the physical sabbath days for it is contrary to us,and does not benefit people towards their spiritual salvation,for it is a physical ordinance,and not spiritual.


They tell people to keep the physical sabbath days which are contrary to us,and does not help us spiritually at all.
If they want to rest on the sabbath,that is fine,but they cannot tell people to keep it,for it has no benefit for us spiritually,because Jesus took it away from the saints.

 

[zone]

Greetings loveschild,

Where to begin... Firstly, keeping the Sabbath Holy is a Biblical commandment. All of God's children kept the sabbath as the Holy day up until the emperor Constantine changed the Holy day to Sunday to accommodate paganism. The disciples did get together on the first day of the week but it was not a commandment to do so. Not only that, they probably got together numerous times during the week due to the influx of new converts. Whatever excuse that you wish to use to justify your view, feel free to use it, but don't say "the Bible says so" because in reality it doesn't, man says so. The Most High is the same yesterday, today, and forever and for Him to change one of His commandments that He instituted goes against His will, therefore no longer making Him perfect. I understand that Rome has been doing this for centuries and many people have a strong allegiance to Rome so keeping the Sabbath would make one unpopular in pseudo-Christian circles so I can understand your resentment but it's not wise to substantiate the traditions of man with the Bible.[/quote]


hi william.
where to begin.

you've traded one error for another. and they are both LAW. who cares what Rome did? why worry about that and try to go back to Moses? don't you know where that leads?

God's children continually profaned the Sabbath Day, and did not execute his statutes and judgments concerning it.

1) are you a gentile? if you are, the Sabbath was never given to you. not at Sinai, nor after Calvary.
it was given to the children of Israel for a specific reason - to remind them of their captivity in egypt:

Deut 5:2-3
The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, with all those of us alive here today.

2) do you keep the Biblical Sabbath, as given to Moses? or have you modified (changed) it to suit your church's traditions?

3) do you think you are pleasing God by pretending to keep the Sabbath? i say pretending, because in reality, no matter how much you think you are keeping Biblical Sabbath, you are not...you are in fact breaking it, every time you try to keep it.

4) if you are attempting to be righteous by keeping The Law, you are a debtor to it. if you offend in one jot, you have broken ALL of the Law. the Law can not save you....if you set aside Saturday as a day for you to spend with The Lord, Paul tells us in Romans that's just fine....but are you teaching it as required?

5) part of the Sabbath Law involves statutes and judgments to enforce it. they are NOT optional.

let's see if SDA really keeps the Sabbath:



The Law Of The Sabbath

EXO 16:29
See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath,

(1) therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days;

(2) abide ye every man in his place,

(3) let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

EXO 20:8
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

EXO 20:9
(4) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

EXO 35:2
Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

EXO 35:3
(5) Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

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(1) All food eaten on the Sabbath must be prepared on Friday the day before.
(2) Everyone must abide or stay in their houses.
(3) No one can go out of their house on the Sabbath day.
(4) No work or labor of any type or kind on the Sabbath day.
(5) No fires in the house or out of the house to be burning on the Sabbath day.
(6) All who break the Sabbath must be put to death.
(7) Anyone who broke these rules of the Sabbath were to be stoned to death.

These seven elements contain the law of the Sabbath.

Who around the world keeps the first 6 and who around the world keeps the 7th?

Because #7 is not kept, the Law of the Sabbath is not Scripturally observed, therefore the Sabbath is not kept.
To observe the Sabbath as a day and not the whole Law of the Sabbath, is breaking the Sabbath.

If the Law of the Sabbath is still in full force and effect today, then all seven of the above elements MUST BE OBSERVED, not just setting aside the day.

If the penalty of death is not enforced in the breaking of the Sabbath then the Law of the Sabbath is broken by allowing a person to break the Sabbath Law.

Those who claim they keep the Sabbath Law are proven to not only not keep it, they break it by not enforcing the death penalty.

Some claim they would stone others to death in their groups if the present laws of society permitted them to do it.

But since they are forbidden by government law to kill those who break the sabbath they honor man's law above God's law.

These are the same who say they are willing die for the sabbath law. Is that not a falsehood, since if stoning a person who breaks the sabbath is KEEPING THE SABBATH LAW, they would be willing to be put to death for killing a person who broke the sabbath. And if they are not, then the claim of dying for the sabbath is simply a falsehood?

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so, does your church stone offenders? if not, SDA has taught commandments of men, and not The Commandments of God. and a man is not justified by The Law anyways.

Jesus is our Sabbath, William.
why don't you just enter into His Rest?

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i'd like to discuss this further if you are willing.
zone.

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Galatians 2:16
yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

Acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Acts 15:10-11
Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to who we gave no such commandment.

Romans 2:14
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves.

Romans 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God

Romans 3:20
For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin

Romans 3:28
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Romans 10:4
For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

John 5:16-17
And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Hebrews 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Hebrews 10:29 is a pretty shocking verse, william. it explains that:
If you seek justification, righteousness, or salvation by Law keeping, then for you Christ is dead in vain and you have counted the blood of his Covenant an unholy thing and done despite unto the Spirit of Grace...

 

[journey41]

Thank you William, this was very informative.