Medicine vs. Witchcraft

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Asgardian

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So, I was asked to start a new thread for the differences between the words "pharmakeia" (witchcraft) and "pharmakon" (medicine) from the "Depression" thread.

Warrior777 said:
No matter how you turn it, the Pharmacy, the Pharmacist (drug maker, inducer),Pharmacology, the medicine or witch potion, poison, it all comes from one word that has WITCHCRAFT in common!
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What is your source? Every Greek source I have studied agrees that "pharmakon" specifically means "medicine" and "pharmakeia" means specifically "witchcraft".

Pharmacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the term you are thinking of is Pharmakos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which is actually talking about something completely different, although the word evolved into the modern Greek meaning for "medicine" and lost its old meaning.
 
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sensitive

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Warrior777 could you try and explain to me what exactly you are trying to tell us? I'm not sure what you are trying to convey to us?
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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Honestly, who cares what the etymology of the word is?

The word "nice" used to mean something like stupid. Does that mean when we hear someone saying "What a nice lady" they mean to say she is really stupid or foolish? Does that mean we should stop using the word?
 
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DiscipleWilliam

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Greetings,

This is an interesting thread brother. I believe the main difference between the two are that "pharmakeia" is generally translated witchcraft or "sorcery" and the word "pharmakon" specifically refers to the Danish school of medicine. The New Testament does frequently mention the evils of "pharmakeia" because it is something that can defile the body and the many concoctions the make up current medicine have a origin from ancient occultist religions who believed that the preservation of man was needed for them to become gods. It is also interesting to note that some pharmaceutical medications contain aborted baby tissue. For anyone that wishes to do further research on this matter you will be amazed what you find regarding the ingredients of modern medicine.
 
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MaggieMye

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Warrior777 will be offline for a couple of days.
Maggie
 
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Asgardian

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DiscipleWilliam said:
This is an interesting thread brother. I believe the main difference between the two are that "pharmakeia" is generally translated witchcraft or "sorcery" and the word "pharmakon" specifically refers to the Danish school of medicine.
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It also refers to actual medicine and is the root of "pharmacy" and "pharmaceutical".

The New Testament does frequently mention the evils of "pharmakeia" because it is something that can defile the body and the many concoctions the make up current medicine have a origin from ancient occultist religions who believed that the preservation of man was needed for them to become gods.
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However, now it is about curing illnesses and diseases. For example, I take ibuprofen or excedrin for my headaches, and they work very well. NyQuil for colds, etc.
 
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Asgardian

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Credo_ut_Intelligam said:
Honestly, who cares what the etymology of the word is?
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MaggieMye and Warrior777. Mosey on over to the Depression thread to see the root of the debate. I just don't want to see people turn away from using the medicines they may actually need just because the two of them are trying to say medicines are witchcraft.
 
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Consumed

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Faith moves mountains, if God tells you to trust Him what do you do?? take two aspirins and go to bed????

Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, does that mean He doesnt heal no more cause science says they can?

what a man believes in his heart so it will be for that man,

faith vs doubt

remember the book of daniel, the response of the three to be thrown into the fire said even if God didnt save them He is Lord, now thats faith.
 
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Asgardian

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Why can't you have both?
 
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DanuckInUSA

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You can, the point Consumed is making is that you can have both or just medicine. But to fully rely on God, that is what faith is about.
 
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juliet84

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Thank you Asgardian for creating this thread...This is for those who dont believe in going to seek doctors and medicines for treatment and cure aside from having faith and hoping for miracles alone towards healing, and my response to MaggieMye in the depression thread for her point of view that the doctors today think that they are God which of course I think is a sweeping statement and is a form of generalization without any evidence to say that those doctors think that way.

Trained medical professionals i.e doctors are a form of authority by virtue of their gift and mission. Recognition of human authority and respect for that authority puts us in alignment with God. Paul further established this in Roman 13. God did not condition our respect for authority on the authority figures' faith in God, but on their position of authority.
 
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DanuckInUSA

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Note however that Paul himself while plagued with a physical infirmity did not turn to a physician but rather asked the Lord to remove it 3 times and when it was not removed he lived with the illness.
 
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juliet84

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DanuckInUSA said:
Note however that Paul himself while plagued with a physical infirmity did not turn to a physician but rather asked the Lord to remove it 3 times and when it was not removed he lived with the illness.
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Which answers the question in the depression thread,' is depression a sin' as sickness is not always being the result of punishment for sin..
 
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Asgardian

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juliet84 said:
Thank you Asgardian for creating this thread...This is for those who dont believe in going to seek doctors and medicines for treatment and cure aside from having faith and hoping for miracles alone towards healing, and my response to MaggieMye in the depression thread for her point of view that the doctors today think that they are God which of course I think is a sweeping statement and is a form of generalization without any evidence to say that those doctors think that way.
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Especially considering there ARE Christian doctors.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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I believe medicine is from God. Yes, we have faith that God can heal us, but he may choose to heal us through medicine which he allowed to made to aide us.
 
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