WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?

[journey41]

We, that feed on the Word of God have not been divided, as we share the same spirit, the same doctrine, taught not from man but from the holy spirit.

There are a few things yet to re revealed, which are at this point a little unclear, and when the Lord wills , he will reveal, then we can say that we have the whole truth, but in the meantime I have listed below and if anyone would like to ask any questions then I will be happy to answer.

Please note, anyone can declare that they have the spirit of God in them, even myself, but we are to test the spirits whether they are of God or not. It has to fit scripturally and make perfect sense. It cannot contradict any of Gods words. This is the key. The truth has to flow....I have not provided scriptures, but only what we believe. I can provide scriptures later in response to your questions .

If everything sounds foreign to you then you have not been feeding on the truth. Time to go back to our bibles for clarification. If you disagree then it's o.k. and we can discuss. Genuine seekers please, no mockers. Time is short fellow christians lets not waste any more time. God is my witness. Glory & honour to the Most High...Our almighty Father in Heaven and our Lord and Savour Jesus Christ whom we trust in.

WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?
We believe that Jesus is the Word of God in the flesh
*When Jesus spoke, it was God speaking
*Jesus is the son of God and has the power to forgive sins
* Jesus in not God the Father
* Everything is according to God's plan and he has orchestrated it
* God created evil
* God created & meant for Lucifer to turn evil & expose it
* God meant for Adam & Eve to sin when he created them, by providing satan
* God is using Satan as a tool for his purpose
*Satans angels manifested in the flesh and had sex with women & animals in Genesis
*Satans angels produced children & new species of animals (giants, warriors, men of renoun, dinosaurs)
* God destroyed all of Satans 'creations' in the flood
*Satan & his angels could travel to and from heaven before the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Satan & his angels were kicked out of heaven after the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Jesus is sitting on the right hand side of God
*Jesus will be glorified at his coming and will be crowned king
*Satan is still the God of this world and is ruling
*A man must be born flesh (born of water first) then transformed into spirit at Christs coming before he can be born again
* Gods word is the bread from heaven and means spiritual food (knowledge) to feed our spirit.
* No man has been to heaven except Jesus, the Son of God.
* We do not go straight to heaven when we die
* We do not go straight to hell when we die
* We do not go to an in-between place when we die
* We sleep when we die and get resurrected at Christ's 2 coming
* Hell is not what the churches depict, forever and ever with people being tortured.
* Hell is death and means the grave - separation from God
* Death and hell will be thrown into the lake of fire after the millenium
* Christ's true church is a spiritual one and not physical
* The holy spirit is the Spirit of Truth, and the Comforter
* Spiritual gifts are real but have been contaminated by modern day churches
* The prophets were until John, but the next ones to come are the 2 witnesses
* Christian churches and religions have some truth, but not the whole truth.
* God hates the celebrations of xmas & easter
* Christians put worldy traditions before God, because they can't part with the world or understand their dark meanings.
* The 144,000 are the firstfruits of Christ
* The 144,000 are a mixture of Jews and spiritual Jews (the adopted)
* The 144,000 are the special chosen ones who God selected to clarify truth to the churches & true seekers
* The 144,000 are the small flock
* The small flock are the ones feeding on the truth
* The small flock will be sealed before 7 trumpets blow
* The small flock may not need to go through tribulation (not clarified, still searching)
* The small flock may be the ones who will be disappear or vanish (not clarified, still searching)
* Mainstream Christianity are the large flock (decieved zion)
* The black horse is running now and his pace is getting faster
* A false prophet will soon arrive and is according to the workings of Satan
* The false prophet is a man that Satan has given his power to
* The false prohpet may be the son of the Satan (not clarified, still searching)
* The false prophet will emerge from Europe
* The false prophet will be a Jew
* The false prophet will decieve many christians
* The true christians will go through tribulation
* Most christians will die and be beheaded by the false prophets army/police
* Some christians will escape and be hidden by God
* The 2 witnesess are Moses & Elijah
* Israel will be invaded by false prophets army
* There will be a mighty war in Israel (200,000,000 soldiers in total)
* The war will be between the False prophets army and Muslim nations
* The war will be over the F.P destroying of the Dome of the Rock and building his own temple
* Christ will meet his saints in the air and destroy babylons system
* Alot of flesh will die but but there will be survivors (the winepress)
* Satan will be locked up for 1000 years
* The major cities will be in ruins and no man will inhabit anymore
* The major cities will be a dwelling place for demons as they will not be locked up
* People will start again and build their own houses. Life will be simple
* Christ & the saints will rule on earth in Israel for 1000 years
* The remnant of Israel will be resurrected into flesh
* the survivors of the wrath of God, the great war and Jesus coming will have a 2nd chance
* Jesus and the saints will be reigning over Israel and teaching them the truth
* The Israelites will teach the outside nations. who are flesh also
* Israel will be the capital of the world
* Israel will become like the Garden of Eden and is called Paradise
* Satan will be released after the 1000 years
* Statan will start to decieve the nations again
* Satan is called Gog and Magog are his followers from all over the earth
* Satan will attack Israel, then will be destroyed along with those who followed him.
* It will take 7 years to bury the dead
* When all is cleaned up, Jesus will hand his kingdom back to God
* Loyal followers from Israel and existing nations will be invited to the Marriage of the Lamb in Prep for Gods arrival
* Loyal followers will be changed to spirit, and join saints - The Marriage of the Lamb
* God will bring heaven down to earth (The New Jerusalem)
* Heaven & Earth will be melted now because all was contaminated
* God will make a new heaven and new earth and dwell amongst us
No information beyond this point.

 

[ablessedman50]

I agree with most of what you posted, however, I wonder just who you are talking about when you say We? I ask this, simply because many of the things you write are contrary to mainstream Christian teachings. Jesus did say that in the end times man will follow the traditions & doctrines of men more than they will the Words of God. Most Churches today follow the Nicene Creed, Apostles creed, Council of Constantinople etc. fulfilling this prophecy of Christ. I believe this to be another TRUTH!!! Good luck with this huge can of worms you have opened..

 

[journey41]

I agree with most of what you posted, however, I wonder just who you are talking about when you say We? I ask this, simply because many of the things you write are contrary to mainstream Christian teachings. Jesus did say that in the end times man will follow the traditions & doctrines of men more than they will the Words of God. Most Churches today follow the Nicene Creed, Apostles creed, Council of Constantinople etc. fulfilling this prophecy of Christ. I believe this to be another TRUTH!!! Good luck with this huge can of worms you have opened..

Hi abblessedman, I am talking about those who do not go to church, the ones that read the bible for themselves, the ones who have no-one to impress and just want to know the truth. I have discovered that these ones all agree with the same doctrine. We have the same spirit. Of course there are a few who do not know as much but have yet to learn. Thats why I am happy to share.

But dont take my word for it, always refer back to the scriptures to check out if true. The scriptures have to harmonise. One scripture cannot condradict the other. If you find any contradictions, go back and seek again

 

[Crazy4GODword]

yeah i agree there are people now following man's doctrine today, and where does these people get their informations. I wonder if their would be man's doctrine that override the truth. People are coming up with strange doctrine and they are using it in the weirdest ways

Shalom

 

[zone]

We, that feed on the Word of God have not been divided, as we share the same spirit, the same doctrine, taught not from man but from the holy spirit.


There are a few things yet to re revealed, which are at this point a little unclear, and when the Lord wills , he will reveal, then we can say that we have the whole truth, but in the meantime I have listed below and if anyone would like to ask any questions then I will be happy to answer.


Please note, anyone can declare that they have the spirit of God in them, even myself, but we are to test the spirits whether they are of God or not.

It has to fit scripturally and make perfect sense. It cannot contradict any of Gods words. This is the key. The truth has to flow....I have not provided scriptures, but only what we believe. I can provide scriptures later in response to your questions .


If everything sounds foreign to you then you have not been feeding on the truth. Time to go back to our bibles for clarification. If you disagree then it's o.k. and we can discuss. Genuine seekers please, no mockers. Time is short fellow christians lets not waste any more time. God is my witness. Glory & honour to the Most High...Our almighty Father in Heaven and our Lord and Savour Jesus Christ whom we trust in.

i've tested the spirit against Scripture and most of what you "teach" is false.
maybe you should stop teaching (?)

" Genuine seekers please, no mockers"

you mean anyone who accepts what you say is a genuine seeker?

 

[zone]

Hi abblessedman, I am talking about those who do not go to church, the ones that read the bible for themselves, the ones who have no-one to impress and just want to know the truth. I have discovered that these ones all agree with the same doctrine. We have the same spirit. Of course there are a few who do not know as much but have yet to learn. Thats why I am happy to share.

But dont take my word for it, always refer back to the scriptures to check out if true. The scriptures have to harmonise. One scripture cannot condradict the other. If you find any contradictions, go back and seek again

If you find any contradictions, go back and seek again

its time you took your own advice my dear.

 

[resurrection33]

I believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing, loving God who created a spiritual paradise we can all live in, starting this very moment, as long as we don’t sin.

 

[LaraHugs]

Whoa !!!!

I came here to try and understand about Christianity, and I guess I wasn't expecting people to disagree ... so, now, this really messes with me.

Journey41, I did read the list ... I don't have any questions to say here, but, this list has given me quite a few questions to ask later, once I learn who is who around here. Thank you for posting things for me to think about.

 

[Glowing]

Hi Journey; Although you and i agree on many things, and you have already helped me with some further understanding on a more advanced level, on a paticular subject, i pray that this comes through me humblely and with all due respect, as i love you in Christ, very much Sister.

The issue i wish to bring up is reguarding, flesh and time.

I do this only to show you more Good News, however it does make the Bad News even worse

Mortal means Liable to Die (corruption) (terrestrial) etc...

Immortal means Eternal Life (incorruption) (cellestrial) etc...

There are both mortal and immortal souls; As well as Bodies

Though there are a few places to study this in the Bible, i'm led to use this one, before i go on.

1st Cor: 15: 50; Now this i say bretheren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Behold i shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed.

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, (speed of light) at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible, must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death where is thy sting? O grave where is thy victory?

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Reguarding we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed; from my studies i understand this to mean the following.

We shall not all sleep, to me means that some will. To me this is reffering to time and souls, (conciousnesses) and that although the firstfruits will attain immortal souls (eternal life) there are some souls that will only receive mortal (liable to die) souls. Still sleeping in this time frame of 1000 mortal years = 1 day of immortal time.

But we shall all be changed, To me this is reffering to Bodies, as ALL souls belong to God, and some will be still sleeping, But it clearly states ALL shall be changed.

The part reffering to, O death where is thy sting? to me is reffering to confusion reguarding our Heritage and our inheiritance, as at that moment it will be totaly clear and precise as to where we ALL originated from.

O grave where is thy victory? to me is reguarding frail flesh bodies, that no longer exsist, therefor, no more physical pain, no more dying, you couldn't even commit suicide if you wanted to! But thats not saying that you may not feel like you wish you could when you find out how truly beautiful we ALL are MoreNaturally

As far as i know, there are only 2 ways outta here; 1: on your knees, trembling with overwhelming Joy and Excitment at the return of our Lord.

2: on your knees trembling with overwhelming Shame and Embarrassment, for denying, The First Begotten Chid of YAHAVAH GOD. ( Get Over Death)

There are some other things i would like to discuss with you, as i think you may be underestimating how much Love Our Father has for us; its just that to me, you seem to make it a little more scarier than it actually is. Although it is going to get very intense, as its already began, We are the Children of the generation of God's Grace (love for us) and as usual HE will arrive just in the nick of time, to deliver the Sincere.

ISAIAH: 57; 1: The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

This 7 year reign of instead of christ (anti-christ) was not only shortend to 3 1/2 years; but has been shortend even further to a 5 month reign; in which pretty boy himself, (satan) doesn't even appear until the middle of the turmoil; 2 1/2 months into the tribulation.

This runs in accordence with the Feasts of The Tabranacle; Starting with The Passover, in which flesh man will attempt to establish one world order, which is prophesied to fail; then 2 1/2 months into this, pretty boy will appear and re-enforce one world order.

This is OUR 10 days of tribulation; The Day of Jacobs Trouble; The Night of The Lord, when we Stand on His behalf; REJECT this Abomonation that appears, OUT OF SEASON!, as WE ALL know when Harvest time is, and its not the middle of summer.

Get through those 10 days; and its all The Holy Spirit from there! Remember, DO NOT even enter into your house, to retreive purse or coat, when you SEE this abomonation standing where he aught NOT!

Stay in the feild doing The Fathers Will; gathering back to Christ. 10 measly days.

10 days: Gathering

40 days: Receiving the Healings and Wisdom

50th day: Pentecost; When after the healings and strenghtenings, WE ALL perform the Greatest miracle of all; To witness Against the Great Apostacy, that IS taking place.

For it would be a SIN, for US to pre-meditate what we would say; rather than to remain a humble vessel for The Holy Spirit to speak through, and Give these people that are participating in the Great Apostacy; Their last and final chance, to get themselves out of the Fire; (the red assed embarrasment) that their going to feel spiritually, at 777.

I guess i go on and on at times; But so many fear Our Father, for the wrong reasons.

It will take Total Trust in Him, to get US through this; No Doubt!

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!

 

[journey41]

Whoa !!!!

I came here to try and understand about Christianity, and I guess I wasn't expecting people to disagree ... so, now, this really messes with me.

Journey41, I did read the list ... I don't have any questions to say here, but, this list has given me quite a few questions to ask later, once I learn who is who around here. Thank you for posting things for me to think about.

Hi Lara, Yes the list is long! I will probably think of more things to add as I go along! When I came to this site, I was amazed & appauled at all the different teachings. They were foreign to me. I am only trying to get some truth out there. If some want to discuss, then I am happy to share. If some disagree then that is their choice and right. At least they can not say that they never heard it. If they are truly seeking they will ask questions. If they are proud, then their minds are already made up and they will never come to the knowledge of the truth.

As christians we are to be different. We should not act like the world. The world is full of nasty people. Whe world bites and spits in our faces. The world hates God. If we have learnt anything, then the most important basic principle I missed out on my list is we believe in LOVE. If we have not love, then we do not have Christ. Simple.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.
God bless.

 

[journey41]

Hi Journey; Although you and i agree on many things, and you have already helped me with some further understanding on a more advanced level, on a paticular subject, i pray that this comes through me humblely and with all due respect, as i love you in Christ, very much Sister.

Thank you Glowing. Peace and love to you too.

We shall not all sleep, to me means that some will. To me this is reffering to time and souls, (conciousnesses) and that although the firstfruits will attain immortal souls (eternal life) there are some souls that will only receive mortal (liable to die) souls. Still sleeping in this time frame of 1000 mortal years = 1 day of immortal time.

I always thought that this means that some (in christ) who are alive at his coming will never taste death?
Remember Gods time is different to ours. 1000 years is as 1 day to God (not us) because he is eternal. He sees way beyond. A thousand years to humans is a long time however?

O

ISAIAH: 57; 1: The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

I love this verse Glowing. A good way to explain why some babies or good people die before their time. It is comforting to know that God sees ahead and saves people from the sorrow to come...But I think you mean it in another way regarding the end times and you could be right as well.

This 7 year reign of instead of christ (anti-christ) was not only shortend to 3 1/2 years; but has been shortend even further to a 5 month reign; in which pretty boy himself, (satan) doesn't even appear until the middle of the turmoil; 2 1/2 months into the tribulation.

That is so funny! You just made my day. I've never heard of Satan being called that before. Classic! We kind of picture him looking ugly dont we, but he was the anointed cherub & created perfect in his ways till iniquity was found in him, so I guess he'd look beautiful...but only on the outside.

This is OUR 10 days of tribulation; The Day of Jacobs Trouble; The Night of The Lord, when we Stand on His behalf; REJECT this Abomonation that appears, OUT OF SEASON!, as WE ALL know when Harvest time is, and its not the middle of summer.

O.k. I'll look into it.

Get through those 10 days; and its all The Holy Spirit from there! Remember, DO NOT even enter into your house, to retreive purse or coat, when you SEE this abomonation standing where he aught NOT!

Is this the new temple he's built for himself in Jerusalem? (where the dome of the rock is) Are you talking about Daniels prophecy? Can we look at it?

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be 1290 days (3 1/2 yrs)

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waits, and comes to the 1335 days.

Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shall rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

This is how I understand it, here goes... The false prophet will build a temple in Jerusalem. It will take three and a half years to build (1290 days). When the building of the temple is completed then we have 45 more days to go till Christ comes.

So for me to sum it up. God gives the false prophet 3 1/2 years to build the temple, but he says to the saints who are still alive..wait, hold on a little longer till the 1335 days are completed...when the temple is finished you have only 45 more days left till our lord comes...

ooh silly me, I've just realised that you are talking about the 10 days. I'm gonna keep that info there anyway. I got confused because you mentioned the abomination standing where it aught not to be? Wheres the 10 days? I think it's mentioned in Revelations somewhere?. I cant find. Yes very interesting, I forgot about that one. Want to look into it further with you. (under pressure, kids trying to kick me off the computer!)

Stay in the feild doing The Fathers Will; gathering back to Christ. 10 measly days.

10 days: Gathering

40 days: Receiving the Healings and Wisdom

50th day: Pentecost; When after the healings and strenghtenings, WE ALL perform the Greatest miracle of all; To witness Against the Great Apostacy, that IS taking place.

We'll go through this as well & you can explain it to me better how you got this. I dont quite understand?

For it would be a SIN, for US to pre-meditate what we would say; rather than to remain a humble vessel for The Holy Spirit to speak through, and Give these people that are participating in the Great Apostacy; Their last and final chance, to get themselves out of the Fire; (the red assed embarrasment) that their going to feel spiritually, at 777.

And this one too, as it's a different language to me!

I guess i go on and on at times; But so many fear Our Father, for the wrong reasons.

I go on too, because it's bursting to get out!

It will take Total Trust in Him, to get US through this; No Doubt!

Amen

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!

You too Glowing. Take care.

 

[zone]

Hi Lara, Yes the list is long! I will probably think of more things to add as I go along! When I came to this site, I was amazed & appauled at all the different teachings. They were foreign to me. I am only trying to get some truth out there. If some want to discuss, then I am happy to share. If some disagree then that is their choice and right. At least they can not say that they never heard it. If they are truly seeking they will ask questions. If they are proud, then their minds are already made up and they will never come to the knowledge of the truth.


As christians we are to be different. We should not act like the world. The world is full of nasty people. Whe world bites and spits in our faces. The world hates God. If we have learnt anything, then the most important basic principle I missed out on my list is we believe in LOVE. If we have not love, then we do not have Christ. Simple.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.
God bless.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/20061-millennialism-truth-heresy.html

 

[zone]

You too Glowing. Take care.[/color]

just go here, that's where all that stuff comes from:

Welcome to Shepherd's Chapel

 

[Scotth1960]

We, that feed on the Word of God have not been divided, as we share the same spirit, the same doctrine, taught not from man but from the holy spirit.

There are a few things yet to re revealed, which are at this point a little unclear, and when the Lord wills , he will reveal, then we can say that we have the whole truth, but in the meantime I have listed below and if anyone would like to ask any questions then I will be happy to answer.

Please note, anyone can declare that they have the spirit of God in them, even myself, but we are to test the spirits whether they are of God or not. It has to fit scripturally and make perfect sense. It cannot contradict any of Gods words. This is the key. The truth has to flow....I have not provided scriptures, but only what we believe. I can provide scriptures later in response to your questions .

If everything sounds foreign to you then you have not been feeding on the truth. Time to go back to our bibles for clarification. If you disagree then it's o.k. and we can discuss. Genuine seekers please, no mockers. Time is short fellow christians lets not waste any more time. God is my witness. Glory & honour to the Most High...Our almighty Father in Heaven and our Lord and Savour Jesus Christ whom we trust in.

WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?
We believe that Jesus is the Word of God in the flesh
*When Jesus spoke, it was God speaking
*Jesus is the son of God and has the power to forgive sins
* Jesus in not God the Father
* Everything is according to God's plan and he has orchestrated it
* God created evil
* God created & meant for Lucifer to turn evil & expose it
* God meant for Adam & Eve to sin when he created them, by providing satan
* God is using Satan as a tool for his purpose
*Satans angels manifested in the flesh and had sex with women & animals in Genesis
*Satans angels produced children & new species of animals (giants, warriors, men of renoun, dinosaurs)
* God destroyed all of Satans 'creations' in the flood
*Satan & his angels could travel to and from heaven before the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Satan & his angels were kicked out of heaven after the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Jesus is sitting on the right hand side of God
*Jesus will be glorified at his coming and will be crowned king
*Satan is still the God of this world and is ruling
*A man must be born flesh (born of water first) then transformed into spirit at Christs coming before he can be born again
* Gods word is the bread from heaven and means spiritual food (knowledge) to feed our spirit.
* No man has been to heaven except Jesus, the Son of God.
* We do not go straight to heaven when we die
* We do not go straight to hell when we die
* We do not go to an in-between place when we die
* We sleep when we die and get resurrected at Christ's 2 coming
* Hell is not what the churches depict, forever and ever with people being tortured.
* Hell is death and means the grave - separation from God
* Death and hell will be thrown into the lake of fire after the millenium
* Christ's true church is a spiritual one and not physical
* The holy spirit is the Spirit of Truth, and the Comforter
* Spiritual gifts are real but have been contaminated by modern day churches
* The prophets were until John, but the next ones to come are the 2 witnesses
* Christian churches and religions have some truth, but not the whole truth.
* God hates the celebrations of xmas & easter
* Christians put worldy traditions before God, because they can't part with the world or understand their dark meanings.
* The 144,000 are the firstfruits of Christ
* The 144,000 are a mixture of Jews and spiritual Jews (the adopted)
* The 144,000 are the special chosen ones who God selected to clarify truth to the churches & true seekers
* The 144,000 are the small flock
* The small flock are the ones feeding on the truth
* The small flock will be sealed before 7 trumpets blow
* The small flock may not need to go through tribulation (not clarified, still searching)
* The small flock may be the ones who will be disappear or vanish (not clarified, still searching)
* Mainstream Christianity are the large flock (decieved zion)
* The black horse is running now and his pace is getting faster
* A false prophet will soon arrive and is according to the workings of Satan
* The false prophet is a man that Satan has given his power to
* The false prohpet may be the son of the Satan (not clarified, still searching)
* The false prophet will emerge from Europe
* The false prophet will be a Jew
* The false prophet will decieve many christians
* The true christians will go through tribulation
* Most christians will die and be beheaded by the false prophets army/police
* Some christians will escape and be hidden by God
* The 2 witnesess are Moses & Elijah
* Israel will be invaded by false prophets army
* There will be a mighty war in Israel (200,000,000 soldiers in total)
* The war will be between the False prophets army and Muslim nations
* The war will be over the F.P destroying of the Dome of the Rock and building his own temple
* Christ will meet his saints in the air and destroy babylons system
* Alot of flesh will die but but there will be survivors (the winepress)
* Satan will be locked up for 1000 years
* The major cities will be in ruins and no man will inhabit anymore
* The major cities will be a dwelling place for demons as they will not be locked up
* People will start again and build their own houses. Life will be simple
* Christ & the saints will rule on earth in Israel for 1000 years
* The remnant of Israel will be resurrected into flesh
* the survivors of the wrath of God, the great war and Jesus coming will have a 2nd chance
* Jesus and the saints will be reigning over Israel and teaching them the truth
* The Israelites will teach the outside nations. who are flesh also
* Israel will be the capital of the world
* Israel will become like the Garden of Eden and is called Paradise
* Satan will be released after the 1000 years
* Statan will start to decieve the nations again
* Satan is called Gog and Magog are his followers from all over the earth
* Satan will attack Israel, then will be destroyed along with those who followed him.
* It will take 7 years to bury the dead
* When all is cleaned up, Jesus will hand his kingdom back to God
* Loyal followers from Israel and existing nations will be invited to the Marriage of the Lamb in Prep for Gods arrival
* Loyal followers will be changed to spirit, and join saints - The Marriage of the Lamb
* God will bring heaven down to earth (The New Jerusalem)
* Heaven & Earth will be melted now because all was contaminated
* God will make a new heaven and new earth and dwell amongst us
No information beyond this point.

Friend, There is a lot in there that I do not believe. I believe in God. I don't believe in fundamentalist misinterpretations of the Bible, or excessive talk about Satan. May God deliver us from the evil one. Amen. As for dinosaurs being something God did not create, that seems to me a slander against our Creator. Just because we don't understand why dinosaurs were there, doesn't mean God didn't do it. As for satan and the demons having sexual relations with animals and with some people, this is nonsense. Angels are bodiless powers, and are incapable of carnal relations. When angels fall into sin, and become demons, they do not acquire physical bodies. Good angels, on the one hand, and bad angels (demons) on the other are bodiless. Such speculation such as this about some things in Genesis is pointless. What we need to believe is the Gospel: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again. We are saved by the shed blood of Jesus Christ upon the Cross. Christ gave Himself as God's gift of love to make possible the gift of eternal life for those of us who believe in Him (John 3:16). John 3:16 is a key to all the rest that we should believe. Not speculations based on a misreading of the book of Genesis on sex, dinosaurs, or the devil. In Erie PA Scott Harrington

 

[DanuckInUSA]

Last I checked I was set free from the law. All you have posted feels like chains, get they behind me.

 

[G4JC]

Under first impression I was about to start singing "What do ya believe!!" chorus on GRITS - Believe...
YouTube - Grits - Believe (feat. Jennifer Knapp)

However on reading the post...

* God meant for Adam & Eve to sin when he created them, by providing satan

-- Uh, they did have a choice. God told them not to and they did. Although since God was all knowing, he probably did know they would. You're statement makes Adam and Eve sound as puppets or robots.

*Satans angels manifested in the flesh and had sex with women & animals in Genesis

-- ??? Nephelium only had relationships with women that I know of.

*Satans angels produced children & new species of animals (giants, warriors, men of renoun, dinosaurs)

--- Dinosaurs? haha ... *cough* They are several mentions of dinosaurs in the bible, and they weren't off-spring of angels.
Dinosaurs and the Bible - Answers in Genesis

* We sleep when we die and get resurrected at Christ's 2 coming

Soul Sleep.
" There is no controversy if you believe the Bible. Soul Sleep refers to the idea that when we die, our souls "fall asleep" and become totally unconscious. Conversely, the Bible teaches that believers who die immediately go to be with the Lord. Certain false religions; such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh-Day Adventists errantly teach that Christians are not conscious after death, and that their soul remains at rest in the grave until a future resurrection; however, there are numerous Scriptures which thwart such speculation. "

* Hell is not what the churches depict, forever and ever with people being tortured.

Makes it convenient... annihilationism heresy?

* The prophets were until John, but the next ones to come are the 2 witnesses

???
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

I'm sure I could find more blatantly confusing and biblical shuddering statements, but...

@Zone:
Good grief, I thought it was only a family member of mine who believed Shepherd's Chapel. That guy freaks me out, such a mix of cults mashed altogether in some distored form of Christianity. I wouldn't advise anyone to go there. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[zone]

@Zone:
Good grief, I thought it was only a family member of mine who believed Shepherd's Chapel. That guy freaks me out, such a mix of cults mashed altogether in some distored form of Christianity. I wouldn't advise anyone to go there. Thanks for clarifying.

hey bud.
hot topic around here (unmentionable unless you want to be flamed).
suffice to say it's British-Israelism...which ties in nicely with Dominionism...which is driven by Freemasonry...which is leading up to something, well.......: you get the idea

oh ya: add dispensational theology and Westcott, Hort and Scofield.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

hey bud.
hot topic around here (unmentionable unless you want to be flamed).
suffice to say it's British-Israelism...which ties in nicely with Dominionism...which is driven by Freemasonry...which is leading up to something, well.......: you get the idea

oh ya: add dispensational theology and Westcott, Hort and Scofield.

Please tell me this Shepherd's Chapel drivel isn't all over this forum.

There's another group teaching that when Noah's world on the other side of the galaxy was utterly destroyed by the flood, that God raptured the ark to this planet of ape-based evolution; and we'll be raptured to the third heaven in like manner. Galactic Gopherwood!

It almost makes the Darby/MacDonald/Plymouth Brethren/Scofield Dispensational Pre-Trib Rapture Myth plausible by comparison. ...Almost.

 

[Scotth1960]

We, that feed on the Word of God have not been divided, as we share the same spirit, the same doctrine, taught not from man but from the holy spirit.

There are a few things yet to re revealed, which are at this point a little unclear, and when the Lord wills , he will reveal, then we can say that we have the whole truth, but in the meantime I have listed below and if anyone would like to ask any questions then I will be happy to answer.

Please note, anyone can declare that they have the spirit of God in them, even myself, but we are to test the spirits whether they are of God or not. It has to fit scripturally and make perfect sense. It cannot contradict any of Gods words. This is the key. The truth has to flow....I have not provided scriptures, but only what we believe. I can provide scriptures later in response to your questions .

If everything sounds foreign to you then you have not been feeding on the truth. Time to go back to our bibles for clarification. If you disagree then it's o.k. and we can discuss. Genuine seekers please, no mockers. Time is short fellow christians lets not waste any more time. God is my witness. Glory & honour to the Most High...Our almighty Father in Heaven and our Lord and Savour Jesus Christ whom we trust in.

WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?
We believe that Jesus is the Word of God in the flesh
*When Jesus spoke, it was God speaking
*Jesus is the son of God and has the power to forgive sins
* Jesus in not God the Father
* Everything is according to God's plan and he has orchestrated it
* God created evil
* God created & meant for Lucifer to turn evil & expose it
* God meant for Adam & Eve to sin when he created them, by providing satan
* God is using Satan as a tool for his purpose
*Satans angels manifested in the flesh and had sex with women & animals in Genesis
*Satans angels produced children & new species of animals (giants, warriors, men of renoun, dinosaurs)
* God destroyed all of Satans 'creations' in the flood
*Satan & his angels could travel to and from heaven before the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Satan & his angels were kicked out of heaven after the resurrection of Jesus Christ
*Jesus is sitting on the right hand side of God
*Jesus will be glorified at his coming and will be crowned king
*Satan is still the God of this world and is ruling
*A man must be born flesh (born of water first) then transformed into spirit at Christs coming before he can be born again
* Gods word is the bread from heaven and means spiritual food (knowledge) to feed our spirit.
* No man has been to heaven except Jesus, the Son of God.
* We do not go straight to heaven when we die
* We do not go straight to hell when we die
* We do not go to an in-between place when we die
* We sleep when we die and get resurrected at Christ's 2 coming
* Hell is not what the churches depict, forever and ever with people being tortured.
* Hell is death and means the grave - separation from God
* Death and hell will be thrown into the lake of fire after the millenium
* Christ's true church is a spiritual one and not physical
* The holy spirit is the Spirit of Truth, and the Comforter
* Spiritual gifts are real but have been contaminated by modern day churches
* The prophets were until John, but the next ones to come are the 2 witnesses
* Christian churches and religions have some truth, but not the whole truth.
* God hates the celebrations of xmas & easter
* Christians put worldy traditions before God, because they can't part with the world or understand their dark meanings.
* The 144,000 are the firstfruits of Christ
* The 144,000 are a mixture of Jews and spiritual Jews (the adopted)
* The 144,000 are the special chosen ones who God selected to clarify truth to the churches & true seekers
* The 144,000 are the small flock
* The small flock are the ones feeding on the truth
* The small flock will be sealed before 7 trumpets blow
* The small flock may not need to go through tribulation (not clarified, still searching)
* The small flock may be the ones who will be disappear or vanish (not clarified, still searching)
* Mainstream Christianity are the large flock (decieved zion)
* The black horse is running now and his pace is getting faster
* A false prophet will soon arrive and is according to the workings of Satan
* The false prophet is a man that Satan has given his power to
* The false prohpet may be the son of the Satan (not clarified, still searching)
* The false prophet will emerge from Europe
* The false prophet will be a Jew
* The false prophet will decieve many christians
* The true christians will go through tribulation
* Most christians will die and be beheaded by the false prophets army/police
* Some christians will escape and be hidden by God
* The 2 witnesess are Moses & Elijah
* Israel will be invaded by false prophets army
* There will be a mighty war in Israel (200,000,000 soldiers in total)
* The war will be between the False prophets army and Muslim nations
* The war will be over the F.P destroying of the Dome of the Rock and building his own temple
* Christ will meet his saints in the air and destroy babylons system
* Alot of flesh will die but but there will be survivors (the winepress)
* Satan will be locked up for 1000 years
* The major cities will be in ruins and no man will inhabit anymore
* The major cities will be a dwelling place for demons as they will not be locked up
* People will start again and build their own houses. Life will be simple
* Christ & the saints will rule on earth in Israel for 1000 years
* The remnant of Israel will be resurrected into flesh
* the survivors of the wrath of God, the great war and Jesus coming will have a 2nd chance
* Jesus and the saints will be reigning over Israel and teaching them the truth
* The Israelites will teach the outside nations. who are flesh also
* Israel will be the capital of the world
* Israel will become like the Garden of Eden and is called Paradise
* Satan will be released after the 1000 years
* Statan will start to decieve the nations again
* Satan is called Gog and Magog are his followers from all over the earth
* Satan will attack Israel, then will be destroyed along with those who followed him.
* It will take 7 years to bury the dead
* When all is cleaned up, Jesus will hand his kingdom back to God
* Loyal followers from Israel and existing nations will be invited to the Marriage of the Lamb in Prep for Gods arrival
* Loyal followers will be changed to spirit, and join saints - The Marriage of the Lamb
* God will bring heaven down to earth (The New Jerusalem)
* Heaven & Earth will be melted now because all was contaminated
* God will make a new heaven and new earth and dwell amongst us
No information beyond this point.

God did not create evil. He did not cause Lucifer to fall into sin. Lucifer did that on his own. Sinners cause their own sins. They are responsible. We are all sinners, every human being, so we are responsible for repenting of our sins. God is the Author only of goodness and mercy and salvation. Not of evil.

 

[journey41]

Under first impression I was about to start singing "What do ya believe!!" chorus on GRITS - Believe...
YouTube - Grits - Believe (feat. Jennifer Knapp)

However on reading the post...

-- Uh, they did have a choice. God told them not to and they did. Although since God was all knowing, he probably did know they would. You're statement makes Adam and Eve sound as puppets or robots.

What comment! Please state

-- ??? Nephelium only had relationships with women that I know of.

---

Dinosaurs? haha ... *cough* They are several mentions of dinosaurs in the bible, and they weren't off-spring of angels.

Satan was full of wisdom. Yes, I said he created dinasours, but would like to re-word it. He mingled with Gods creation & he knows how to manipulate Gods creation, by making a new species thats his own. I am not sure if you are aware, but man has the technology to clone and manipulate genes, and if man can do it..well need I say anymore.

Soul Sleep.
" There is no controversy if you believe the Bible. Soul Sleep refers to the idea that when we die, our souls "fall asleep" and become totally unconscious. Conversely, the Bible teaches that believers who die immediately go to be with the Lord. Certain false religions; such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh-Day Adventists errantly teach that Christians are not conscious after death, and that their soul remains at rest in the grave until a future resurrection; however, there are numerous Scriptures which thwart such speculation. "

I dont care what those religions believe. I dont follow them. This observation is from the bible and yours is from church doctrine, just like them, misinformed as well.
Makes it convenient... annihilationism heresy?

???

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

The prophets were until John.

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Yes thats why I am speaking up.

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Are you about to do this buddy?

I'm sure I could find more blatantly confusing and biblical shuddering statements, but...

I guess not, that is why I know you are not sincere and I will not give you any verses.

@Zone:
Good grief, I thought it was only a family member of mine who believed Shepherd's Chapel. That guy freaks me out, such a mix of cults mashed altogether in some distored form of Christianity. I wouldn't advise anyone to go there. Thanks for clarifying.

By the way, this guy is a gal. You are only 18 and you talk like this! I wonder what other great things your church has taught you. Remember your words.
I said no mockers please. Only genuine seekers. I cannot answer you yet until you are weaned from the milk, it will be too hard for you to take and I dont want to heap coals on your head because you will mock even further. I pray that the milk you are drinking is a good formular.
Take care buddy.