How can blasphemy against the holy spirit be commited???

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Avidan

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It takes relationship with Christ and your Heavenly Father and the Holy Spirit to learn how to become sin's master. Sin is anything that makes us doubt and fear or wavier. For example, let's say that you left the oven on at home, or maybe you left home, and perhaps you left the burner on. If you know for sure that you didn't... then there is no fear, no doubt, no wavering as to whether or not you are going to burn down the house and hurt someone inside that may not be paying attention. If you are not confident... well... maybe you did leave it on... did you? Should you go back and check? What if you can't get back? This is the power of sin... it works with any rule or any moral standard. God's, or man's.

Sin gained it's power unto death through the law of Moses. This is why Jesus fulfilled the Law and everything that ever came from the prophets. To conquer sin and death.

Now... put Jesus into the stove/burner equation. Listen carefully and apply it to your life.


Jesus turned off the burner for you
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You don't have to worry about it. It's off. You are safe. You don't have to doubt. You are saved. Just keep trusting in Christ.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is speaking a word against the Holy Spirit and it ultimately comes down to not receiving Christ and declaring unto death that the Holy Spirit is of Satan and refusing to receive Christ to attain God's righteousness. We have our whole lives to make up our final word on who Jesus is and who's Spirit He is of, blaspheming Jesus is forgivable unto men.. so He is the only way out.

Love always wins and mercy always triumphs over judgment.

The Bible says that a word spoken against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven unto men (and son's of men).... unto who? "men" .....If you receive Christ... what are you? You are no longer man... you are spirit.

Your spirit is perfect, seated with Christ... now... what happens to the "man" who you see in the mirror? Is that you? The answer is no... you are spirit and that man will be changed to a new creation, no longer man, to be united with who you really are in Christ, a reborn spirit, a new creation birthed from God.

So you are spirit... one with God.... not man.... .....so what happens to all those who did not receive Christ?.... ...they are not spirit... they are man.... they will not be forgiven that sin.... which comes down to not receiving Christ and not being born again....

If you have received Christ, you are born anew and no longer man.... You are in a process of renewing your mind, going from glory to glory. This is a process called: working out our salvation with fear and trembling.... It's a scary thing to trust in the blood of Christ alone to save us....especially when God starts making everything but the blood of Christ fail us... but... it all works out, God will complete what He has started in you, and God works all the bad together for good for those who are called according to His purpose.... this is you!

So.. even if the "man" portion of you once said a word against the Holy Spirit... it doesn't matter... because if you believe in Christ, you will be reborn as a spirit... and the man won't have to be forgiven because Christ took the punishment and the man will be translated to life (to spirit) without having to pay the penalty of his sin, exchanging his sin for Christ's righteousness.. Now you have never done anything wrong... ..You are the righteousness of Christ. God's own righteousness is who you are. ....it's a good deal :) :) ...your sins are as far away as the east is from the west, never to be remembered.

There are only two sins that lead unto death.... not receiving Christ and not fulfilling God's law. We receive Christ when we call upon His name to be saved and we fulfill God's law by loving our neighbor as our self.

His yoke is easy and his burden is light. Do not get tangled up in religion trying to bare the burden of the law of Moses which not even the Jews could bare. If you want religion.... help people as you are able, love the best you can, the way you would want to be loved, and speak life, capture any bad thoughts about people, and yourself, (the best that you are able) and say no... God loves me, and He loves those people.

And remember..... Jesus turned the burner off :) :)
 
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His yoke is easy and his burden is light. Do not get tangled up in religion trying to bare the burden of the law of Moses which not even the Jews could bare.
Hi Avidan

Do you have any scripture to back up this advice you have given... from Jesus pbuh teachings ?
 
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Avidan

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Hi Avidan

Do you have any scripture to back up this advice you have given... from Jesus pbuh teachings ?
No, stick to the bible, look at Acts 15


I also want to make mention of how Jesus says in Mark, concerning the subject, that they were "in danger" of eternal damnation. Notice that they had already committed the sin... which to men, it is unforgivable... but.. they were still only "in danger" of eternal damnation. They could still believe in Christ and be reborn, this is how a man who commits the sin is unforgiven, but, still only "in danger" of eternal damnation.

It is still a very real danger though... keep in mind that they just saw a mans hand grow back right in front of them, they still denied Christ and blasphemed the Holy Spirit. The more someone denies Christ, the more a habit of denying him is formed. It is a very real danger... but, nothing that intercession, mercy, and humbling ones self in the sight of God could not bring someone back from.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The serpent represents Christ becoming sin for us. Notice that "he that believeth not is condemned already." A "man" is already dead twice because they chose to live once. A reborn spirit of God is alive in Christ because they chose to die once... so they get to live twice, now and in world to come :)

There is more to it... how the dead in Christ are not really dead, but, just sleeping, and so forth... but I'm still praying for further revelation too.. Let's keep one another in prayer and put each others consciences first. Doing the best we can to help people to 'ride the bike' of faith, not pushing them down, but, helping them to balance as the learn to trust in the blood of Christ apart from everything else.

Love you guys.
 
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Avidan

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Hi Avidan

Do you have any scripture to back up this advice you have given... from Jesus pbuh teachings ?
I'm so sorry, I don't know everything :) I thought you were wanting teachings out of another book other than the Bible. I had to look up what pbuh meant. Acts 15 and Galatians go over a lot concerning the law though. That's for another post though, please make a new thread for anything concerning that.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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I'm so sorry, I don't know everything :) I thought you were wanting teachings out of another book other than the Bible. I had to look up what pbuh meant. Acts 15 and Galatians go over a lot concerning the law though. That's for another post though, please make a new thread for anything concerning that.
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oh wow.I didnt know.But I mean for me its just been hard dealing with thoughts.Then eventually I just snapped in my head.I never spoke a word against the holy spirit .The thought just came full of anger anmd all kinds of emotional feelings.So Im just still wondering If it can be commited in your head without speaking
Hi jj408, I believe , and this is my humble opinion, based on what I have heard about it, this sin is a tongue sin, so in order to commit it you would have had to pronounce in completely knowing what you are doing . rebuke all evil thoughts and fill your mind with scripture, don't stop praying, also keep your eyes away of anything inpure.
 

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If you are concerned about this sin then you have not commited it. To grieve the Holy Spirit in this fashion would not doubt cause His presence to depart from you. Without the Holy Spirit there would be no conviction of sin. No conviction of sin means you would not care in the least about it. Fat, dumb and happy in sin.

For the cause of Christ
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can you commit this sin in your head.Can it be commited by a thought.Im just very worried that I might have commited blasphemy against the holy spirit.I feel like I was just really angry and depressed. so in my head I started getting really mad,sad, and emotional.I was just like why go to heaven in my head and then right after that I just started thinking these evil thoughts like blasphemy ones.Im just wondering is that really me thinking that.So im just wondering if I can still be forgiven ? no matter how bad my thoughts and emotions are I would never speak against god,the holy spirit, or mislead anyone.I know who god is and I know hes full of life,joy, and happiness.I just feel like I mest everythings mest up for myself
Here's one blasphemous act. Keeping others from understanding the truth about the gospel is blasphemy, because a person is interfering with the truth and which it is the Job for the Holy spirit to bring in the truth but by covering up the truth is disrespecting the Holy Spirit. The people of the two cities Sodom and Gomorrah were going to disrespected the two visitors (which represent the Holy Spirit) from doing there Job that were in lots house, and so the visitors blinded them. So slandering the truth is blasphemous.

Matthew 28
11 While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened. 12 When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, 13 telling them, “You are to say, ‘His disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep.’ 14 If this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble.” 15 So the soldiers took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been widely circulated among the Jews to this very day.

And which these verses are saying that they are covering up the truth by making a Liar out of Jesus.

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
 

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Hi jj408, I believe , and this is my humble opinion, based on what I have heard about it, this sin is a tongue sin, so in order to commit it you would have had to pronounce in completely knowing what you are doing . rebuke all evil thoughts and fill your mind with scripture, don't stop praying, also keep your eyes away of anything inpure.
tono77.
i have read your thread expressing concern over having committed this sin.
now you are searching old threads.
you're clearly tormented by this, and you really should stop.

YOU HAVE NOT COMMITTED THAT SIN.

it has nothing to do with what you said you had done.

though i recommend STRONGLY you leave the movement that's about "tongues" etc, you have NOT committed the unpardonable sin.

please find a Lutheran pastor - LCMS. make an appointment and go to him and confess what you feel you have done.

i promise you, you will be reminded that the sins you have committed are forgiven when you confessed them to the Lord.

UNBELIEF - that Jesus does not forgive your sin is more serious than the fear you have over the unpardonable sin - WHICH NO CHRISTIAN WILL COMMIT.

not trusting that your sins are forgiven is VERY SERIOUS.

okay?

please - go and confess your sins before a pastor and be reminded you are absolved of all of your sins.
take the Lord's Supper.

go in peace.
 
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Kemar

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you are ok dont worry i have been through it also..................ur ok true repentance will deal with da guild and seek his word will keep it away so you can grow in christ
 

mystdancer50

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Here are my thoughts on this:

Jesus wants none to perish, so one thinks, why, then, would He say there an unforgivable sin? It is actually very, very simple. The only reason a sin cannot be forgiven is if it the person who commits it does not repent.

So, blasphemy of Holy Spirit is simple: it is consistently and constantly calling the moving and things of God 'demonic' or 'of the devil', refusing, constantly, to yield to the urgings of Holy Spirit and the constant call to repentance that God places on the heart of every single man, woman and child. This is why it is unforgivable, because the one who commits it never yields to the call to repentance and therefore cannot be forgiven.

Here is the definition of blasphemy: The malicious or wanton reproach of God, either written or oral. In English Law, the offense of speaking disparaging words about God, Jesus Christ, the Bible, or the Book of Common Prayer with the intent to undermine religious beliefs and promote Contempt and hatred for the church as well as general immorality. In U.S. law, any maliciously intended written or oral accusation made against God or religion with the purpose of dishonoring the divine majesty and alienating mankind from the love and reverence of God.Blasphemy is a common-law offense and also an offense by statute in certain jurisdictions. It must be uttered in the presence of another person or persons or published in order to be an offense. Mere use of profanity is not considered blasphemy.

Thus, blasphemy of Holy Spirit is hating the things of God and refusing to repent or surrender. So long as you're living for God, repentant, in a relationship with Him, walking with Him, serving Him, seeking Him and not denying Him, you're good. :)
 
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GreenNnice

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It can be done. The bible does not lie.
But, doing it requires your leaving Christ, simple as that, when you DENY Him, you blasphemy Him.

Blasphemy is denial of the HOly Spirit being in your life who comes to your life when YOU receive Him , by laying on of hands or however He perfectly 'comes.' :)

So, stay with Christ in your life, don't depart from the faith that Christ gave you and you're good to go (to heaven ) :)
 

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It can be done. The bible does not lie.
But, doing it requires your leaving Christ, simple as that, when you DENY Him, you blasphemy Him.

Blasphemy is denial of the HOly Spirit being in your life who comes to your life when YOU receive Him , by laying on of hands or however He perfectly 'comes.' :)

So, stay with Christ in your life, don't depart from the faith that Christ gave you and you're good to go (to heaven ) :)
Wow. You said this so much simpler than I did. :)
 

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Yahchanan (John) 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The Instructions that I speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."

Dont speak against the Instructions and all will be well.
 
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GreenNnice

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Wow. You said this so much simpler than I did. :)
What you said was very well said :)

Your summary, mystD, was most excellently said :

Thus, blasphemy of Holy Spirit is hating the things of God and refusing to repent or surrender. So long as you're living for God, repentant, in a relationship with Him, walking with Him, serving Him, seeking Him and not denying Him, you're good.
The Lord leads, He in us , through ways of humans and of Himself in us and The Word all used, teaches us all things revelation-revealing of Him
 

mystdancer50

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What you said was very well said :)

Your summary, mystD, was most excellently said :



The Lord leads, He in us , through ways of humans and of Himself in us and The Word all used, teaches us all things revelation-revealing of Him
Thanks. :) I'm a writer, so I tend to ramble or give too much information. :)
 
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GreenNnice

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Thanks. :) I'm a writer, so I tend to ramble or give too much information. :)
He's made you a very good writer, too, maybe, some superfoluos words , at times, but, aren't we all in our own way wordy, in life, and, your words, most importantly, speak Truth, mystD, and that makes the words said move elegantly and superbly for His glory, blessing you, too . :)

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HisHezkiah, It's more than just speaking against The Word's instruction, it's speaking against He who is in you working in your life, it's saying 'no' to His being in your life doing things, telling Him you no longer are going to serve Him, and, you no longer HAVE FAITH IN HIM, who, not so consequently, and, not so coincidentally, is IN you .
 

Hizikyah

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He's made you a very good writer, too, maybe, some superfoluos words , at times, but, aren't we all in our own way wordy, in life, and, your words, most importantly, speak Truth, mystD, and that makes the words said move elegantly and superbly for His glory, blessing you, too . :)

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HisHezkiah, It's more than just speaking against The Word's instruction, it's speaking against He who is in you working in your life, it's saying 'no' to His being in your life doing things, telling Him you no longer are going to serve Him, and, you no longer HAVE FAITH IN HIM, who, not so consequently, and, not so coincidentally, is IN you .
I Agree 100%

Your right, I think like thats included in the instruction, but i didnt explain.
 
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BradC

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Blasphemy is to speak evil of or utter a word of slander or reproach to injure another. You can blaspheme against the Son and be forgiven because he was sent to be crucified in the likeness of sinful flesh, but you can't blaspheme against the Holy Spirit who was sent not to be crucified but to reveal the Father and the Son after Christ's ascension. If one speaks evil of the Son he can be forgiven through the blood of Christ when he turns to Christ, but the one who attributes the work of the Spirit as unclean and of the devil, that shall never be forgiven. That one must be delivered from that evil being in danger of hell fire. Today the body of Christ represents the work of God through the Holy Spirit that dwells in the believer. The work of the ministry that is produced in the body of Christ is a work of the Spirit. Those who speak evil of that work and attribute that work as unclean and unholy (or simply attribute that work from the power of darkness), they are in danger of hell fire and must be delivered from this evil (deliver us from evil...).

There is no forgiveness for this blasphemy because Christ did not shed his blood for evil against the work of the Spirit, but he did shed his blood for sin, sins, transgressions, iniquities and trespasses that were against God and his word. This is why we must be careful what we attribute to the devil in the life of those who have the Spirit. Woe to those who have labeled God's servants as doing a work of and/or for the devil. How many have accused servants like Billy Graham, John Hagee, Kathryn Kuhlman, C.S.Scofield, David Wilkerson and many other servants of God of this very thing and they wonder why they have so much trouble in their lives. They wonder why they are always being resisted and are in derision of others when they have sowed so much to the flesh with their evil untamed tongues that have been set on fire of hell. Some of them even try to comfort others not to worry of such things being under conviction.