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View Poll Results: When do you think the raptrure will take place?
Pre trib rapture? 22 61.11%
Mid Trib rapture? 3 8.33%
Post trib rapture? 3 8.33%
Other? 8 22.22%
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Old January 5th, 2009
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Romans 8:1.... no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus
who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.


If you are going to quote a scripture quote it all, and I am not sure what this has to do with this subject.
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Old January 6th, 2009
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there is scripture, it's been quoted, but u continue to push it aside and ignore it and say it says something else. you continue quoting scripture that does not prove the postrib theory. you condemn the pretrib believers, no one has condemned the postrib believers yet. i believe God is the only one to condemn in this case, HE is the only who can say who is wrong and who is right. whether it's pretrib or postrib. and who are you to condemn.

Repeating that scripture has been given and actually providing scripture are two very different things, what I would like any one to do is provide ascripture not just claim there has been.



First off I agree with Onwings on this one to a point.If theres proof that the rapture is b4 the trib then it'll be in the Old Testiment as a "Type"
that is to say an example.God will tell you in more than one place how this will be...
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Old January 6th, 2009
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First off this is untrue Christians/ saints/ the church is mentioned all through the book of Revelation, and you even got the accusation wrong. The claim is that the church is only mentioned in the first 3 chapters of Reveklation not the first 7 chapters.

Here are some scripture to disprove your statement.

Revelation 13:10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 14:11-12
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

Um, there will be people saved after the rapture. Verse 11 in Rev 14 isn't talking about the saints, you forgot verse 12. You said something those left behind would be destroyed by fire, no one will be "annihilated". That's absurd.
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Ok this thread is starting to get out of control and heated. I think everyone has said what needs to be said. I'm going to close this thread. Let's give the topic a rest for a while You all know what each other is saying.
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How To Dismantle A Futurist

1. Show the near/soon wording of Rev. 1 and 22.
2. Read Olivet discourse. Show temple destruction is expected in their life time.
3. Inform that destruction of temple in AD 70 is a BIG deal.
4. Point out the historical events that line up with Daniels weeks.
5. Use history from that time period and place.

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