Are the dead dead or do they keep on liveing?..............

LawofLove · Mar 4, 2011

Death just might be one of the most misunderstood subjects today. To many it is enshrouded in mystery and evokes dreaded feelings of fear, uncertainty, and even hopelessness. Others believe that their deceased loved ones are not dead at all, but instead live with them or in other realms! Still others are confused about the relationship between the body, spirit, and soul. But does it really matter what you believe? Yes... absolutely! Because what you believe about the dead will have a profound impact on what happens to you in the end-times. There's no room for guessing, so this Study Guide will give you exactly what God says on this subject. Get ready for a real eye-opener!

1. How did we get here in the first place?

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. Answer: God made us from dust in the beginning.

2. What happens when a person dies?

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. Answer: The body turns to dust again, and the spirit goes back to God, who gave it. The spirit of every person who dies--whether righteous or wicked--returns to God at death.

3. What is the "spirit" that returns to God at death?

"The body without the spirit ["breath," see margin] is dead." James 2:26. "The spirit of God ["the breath which God gave him," see margin] is in my nostrils." Job 27:3. Answer: The spirit that returns to God at death is the breath of life. Nowhere in all of God's book does the "spirit" have any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.

4. What is a "soul"?

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. Answer: A soul is a living being. A soul is always a combination of two things: body plus breath. A soul cannot exist unless body and breath are combined. God's Word teaches that we are souls.

5. Do souls die?

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:20. "Every living soul died in the sea." Revelation 16:3. Answer: According to God's Word, souls do die! We are souls, and souls die. Man is mortal (Job 4:17). Only God is immortal (1 Timothy 6:15, 16). The concept of an undying, immortal soul goes against the Bible, which teaches that souls are subject to death.

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6. Do good people go to heaven when they die?

"All that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David ... is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.
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Answer: No, people do not go either to heaven or hell at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

For more go to Amazingfacts.org

Heremon · Mar 4, 2011

Hmmmm.....I just love those old 1970's photos on your presentation. It kinda reminds me of the old flannel graph pics in Sunday School.

But, if it's all the same to you, I'll just stick with the whole "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" thingy; I really feel comfortable staying on that team. You have fun pushing your whole soul sleep deal...it should be an interesting thread topic.

HAPPY EISOGESIS!!!!!!

ablessedman50 · Mar 4, 2011

Heremon said:

I didn't see him pushing anything other than scripture. So you just completely discredit every scripture presented? To agree with a scripture that evidently you have no understanding of. To put it in your flippant words to join the (Thingy) team. Wow what a rousing rebuttal!!!

journey41 · Mar 4, 2011

ablessedman50 said:

Good on you for speaking up. My thoughts exactly!
Regards
Journey

Scotth1960 · Mar 4, 2011

LawofLove said:

Death just might be one of the most misunderstood subjects today. To many it is enshrouded in mystery and evokes dreaded feelings of fear, uncertainty, and even hopelessness. Others believe that their deceased loved ones are not dead at all, but instead live with them or in other realms! Still others are confused about the relationship between the body, spirit, and soul. But does it really matter what you believe? Yes... absolutely! Because what you believe about the dead will have a profound impact on what happens to you in the end-times. There's no room for guessing, so this Study Guide will give you exactly what God says on this subject. Get ready for a real eye-opener!

1. How did we get here in the first place?

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. Answer: God made us from dust in the beginning.

2. What happens when a person dies?

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. Answer: The body turns to dust again, and the spirit goes back to God, who gave it. The spirit of every person who dies--whether righteous or wicked--returns to God at death.

3. What is the "spirit" that returns to God at death?

"The body without the spirit ["breath," see margin] is dead." James 2:26. "The spirit of God ["the breath which God gave him," see margin] is in my nostrils." Job 27:3. Answer: The spirit that returns to God at death is the breath of life. Nowhere in all of God's book does the "spirit" have any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.

4. What is a "soul"?

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. Answer: A soul is a living being. A soul is always a combination of two things: body plus breath. A soul cannot exist unless body and breath are combined. God's Word teaches that we are souls.

5. Do souls die?

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:20. "Every living soul died in the sea." Revelation 16:3. Answer: According to God's Word, souls do die! We are souls, and souls die. Man is mortal (Job 4:17). Only God is immortal (1 Timothy 6:15, 16). The concept of an undying, immortal soul goes against the Bible, which teaches that souls are subject to death.

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6. Do good people go to heaven when they die?

"All that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David ... is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.
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Answer: No, people do not go either to heaven or hell at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

For more go to Amazingfacts.org

The Christian dead who die in the Lord are absent from the body, awaiting the resurrection of their bodies, but their souls are now present in heaven with Christ the Lord. They shall not be hurt by the second death. The unsaved dead shall be hurt by the second death, and because of their impenitence they appear in hell. ... The Lord is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9); He also said narrow is the way, and few make it to life. The human soul is immortal, so whether a soul goes to heaven, or to hell, it is alive forever. It is either in paradise with Christ, or in torments in hell without Christ. Christ came to save people from their sins by His blood, so they do not have to go to hell. Christ came to resurrect the bodies of all people. The dead's bodies will either go to be with Christ in heaven, or some of the dead will appear in hell.
Christ came to save us. It is up to Christ whether we go to heaven, or to hell. Christ came to make it possible we will go to heaven.

wakeup · Mar 4, 2011

Heremon said:

to be absent from the body does not mean death,you should know this by now. it simply means not following the desires of the flesh.
to be present with the lord means that you are spiritually with christ.
not in heaven with christ???
regards
wakeup.

NodMyHeadLikeYeah · Mar 4, 2011

Well obviously they keep on living..... duh!

wakeup · Mar 4, 2011

Scotth1960 said:

why is it necessery to bring up the dust?
absent from the body does not mean death. it means absent from doing the
lust of the flesh, if one does that ,one is present with yhe lord in spirit,not in
heaven. your fathers ate manna and they are dead. not in heaven.
wakeup.

dmdave17 · Mar 4, 2011

Unless those of you who agree with LawofLove are advocating that there is somehow an escape from hell, whether or not we sleep until Resurrection Day is relatively immaterial. The point is, if we are not saved by the blood of Christ we are going to hell. Jesus repeatedly made references to hell, where there would be "much weeping and gnashing of teeth", so the existence of hell, at least, is undeniable. Does it really matter when we go?

I personally tend to believe that we get our "just rewards" immediately upon death, based on the eyewitness accounts of many who have had near-death experiences (in both directions). However, I believe that when we are going is not nearly as important as where.

resurrection33 · Mar 7, 2011

I think the “dead’ pass on to the resurrection where they live forever.

lucid · Mar 7, 2011

Hi Lawoflove: That is a beautiful presentation that you posted !! Keep up the Great Work.

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

Zephaniah 3:17

LawofLove · Mar 8, 2011

dmdave17 said:

Unless those of you who agree with LawofLove are advocating that there is somehow an escape from hell, whether or not we sleep until Resurrection Day is relatively immaterial. The point is, if we are not saved by the blood of Christ we are going to hell. Jesus repeatedly made references to hell, where there would be "much weeping and gnashing of teeth", so the existence of hell, at least, is undeniable. Does it really matter when we go?

I personally tend to believe that we get our "just rewards" immediately upon death, based on the eyewitness accounts of many who have had near-death experiences (in both directions). However, I believe that when we are going is not nearly as important as where.

We need to believe what the bible says not eyewitness satan is a eyewitness want to believe him and if not how do you know your not with out the bible to back you up?

LawofLove · Mar 8, 2011

NodMyHeadLikeYeah said:

hahahahahahaha lololololo

Heremon · Mar 8, 2011

ablessedman50 said:

You are correct sir and I do apologize. Maybe I should not be so flippant when engaging in dialogue with modern day Sadducees. Now, lets address the argument that some claim the soul or spirit is just another word for breath since this is what the Hebrew word Ruach means. That when someone dies their breath leaves them. Lets substitute the word breath where Spirit is and see if it makes any sense scripturally?

Job 34:14-15: “If He should set His heart on it, if He should gather to Himself Spirit (His breath?) and His breath, All flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.” Here both breath and spirit are distinguished otherwise one would be gathering to himself spirit and his spirit or breath and his breath.

Acts 23:8: “For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection-- and no angel or breath (spirit); but the Pharisees confess both.” Is there no breath or were they speaking about a spirit that is intelligent?

What of Jesus, did he use this definition? Matt. 12:43 “When an unclean Breath, (spirit) “goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.” Certainly he did not mean bad breath. Just as man can have the Holy Spirit live within him alongside his human Spirit so he can have a unclean spirit live in him.
Luke 4:36: For with authority and power He commands the unclean Breaths, (spirit) and they come out.”

Luke 12:19: “And I will say to my Breath, “ Breath,”(spirit), you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.” Can ones breath eat and drink.

Pnuema means wind in Greek; it also means breath and spirit. Ruach in Hebrew means wind, it too also can mean breath and spirit. Since Hebrew and Greek have only one word for wind breath and spirit one needs to discern what is meant by certain passages, the context defines the meaning. The rushing wind in Acts is certainly to be interpreted as the Spirit. Certainly when Jesus spoke to the Father into your hands I commend my Spirit he was not speaking of his breath. I think the point is clear, Spirit does not mean breath although at times it is used metaphorically.

There is a very clear difference in Scripture between a man's breath and his spirit.
Isaiah 42:5: “Thus says the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it, and spirit to those who walk in it.” Two things are given the breath and the spirit if they were one thing it would not be written like this.

1 Cor. 2:11-12: “ For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? “ Could we ever substitute breath for Spirit? Mans center of knowledge is not in their physical human nature, neither in the brain which is just a vehicle. It is our spirit that has a will and recalls. When one dies it is because the spirit leaves this is why one cannot hear nor see our spiritual nature has left.

The Bible speaks of two different kinds of death…
1 Tim 5:6: “But she who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives.” This does not mean one is a walking corpse in the physical body but they are dead in their spirit from sin and trespasses. This is remedied by a new birth, Jn.3 being born again by the Spirit.
The term “death” which is “thanatas” in Greek, does not mean to be non-existence or unconscious, it rather means to be separated. The unregenerate are dead but they are not unconscious or non existent.

Revelation 6:9-11: “And when He broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, wilt Thou refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, should be completed also.” Notice the timing is at the fifth seal, God gave them white robes and they are told to wait for their brethren who will be killed. This consummates in Rev.7:9-15 where they are gathered before the throne of God serving him day and night in his temple (v.15). This would be hard to do if one is asleep or out of existence.The Bible teaches death is not a cessation of existence, but a separation of existence.

One will never read of a soul being resurrected from a physical death. Rather, bodies are resurrected from physical death (Matthew 27:52).Why? Because a soul does not literally die. Soul-sleep, which pertains to the deceased, is defined as silence, inactivity and an entire unconsciousness; that once death occurs it affects the spirit of man just as it does the body. This would mean the spirit is only alive when it has a body. We know this is not true and is contrary to the Bible.

In Jesus' story of the rich man and Lazarus he was was not giving disinformation. The rich man was very much aware of his misfortune as he suffered in Hades, while Lazarus enjoyed the blessedness of Paradise (Luke 16:19-31). It is obvious that the rich man is conscious, as Lazarus is conscious, and Abraham is conscious, though they are all dead. All the stories Jesus told always illustrated truth not something false. These two have recently died and one has been long dead. Indeed, their physical bodies are asleep but not their souls.

In Jn.11:11-14 Jesus says of Lazarus that he sleeps referring to his body. He then raised his body from the dead. In Mt.27:52 the Scripture tells us that at the time of of the resurrection “many bodies of the saints which slept arose.” The specific mention of bodies makes the meaning clear of what actually slept. It was not the saints themselves that slept but their bodies.The term “sleep” is never applied to the soul or the spirit , but only the body. It is never used of the unbelievers in the New Testament. It is a term used only of believers which shows God's viewpoint of the death of a believer. Jesus' own word's teach that there is an existence of rest and reward for the faithful and certain types of punishment and torment for those who are evil.

The soul is not the body or the body the soul; they are different components of the same person. So then what does he mean by “fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body"(Ma. 10:28)? The Greek word here is Apollumi; it does not mean to bring to utter destruction or ceasing to exist. This same Greek word is used of those living in Ma.10:6 (lost), Ma.15:24 ( lost); Lk.19:10 (that which is lost). So this means to be in a lost condition, in context those in Hell that are in a eternally lost state, separated from God for all eternity. This also refutes any teaching of annihilationism, that we don’t exist after we die. Jesus says we do.

Moses' appearance at the Mount of transfiguration proved one exists after they die. Ma. 17:1-8 and Lk. 9:28-36 are just a few of the passages on the transfiguration where we find Moses and Elijah appearing on the Mount with Jesus. Elijah was taken to heaven alive while Moses died a physical death, yet, Moses is consciously alive just like Elijah. Moses couldn't have been resurrected, because Christ is to be the firstfruits of the resurrection and he had not risen yet. He had to die first. So this proves that Moses' spirit continued to exist after he died.

Jesus said we would worship the Father in Spirit and truth. We need a spiritual nature to do this, only man was created like this and has this ability. When Adam was warned of the day he ate of the tree he certainly would die, he didn’t die physically but spiritually. He still existed but it meant a break, a separation in his relationship. If we read such passages as the Ezek. 18:4: “Behold, all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine; the soul that sinneth, it shall die (which is to sleep according to those who hold to the soul sleep doctrine). This means that it is spiritual death a separation- not non existence, otherwise they would cease to exist as soon as they sin.

There are many scriptures that say the soul is dead even when someone is alive.” Rom. 8:10, " And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.” Are we really dragging a dead body around? Can we actually believe that if someone sinned their soul went to sleep or out of existence when they were alive? Were they walking around with a dead soul and an alive body. How did the soul revive?The body “sleeps” and goes back to dust. The following verses refer to the state of the body in death as sleep: Ma. 9:24: “He began to say, “Depart; for the girl has not died, but is asleep.” And they were laughing at Him.” The term sleeping is used only of believers showing a rest, a temporary cessation of physical activity. Rom. 8:23, it is the body we wait to be resurrected not our spirit or soul. Just as in 1 Cor.15 :3 15-20 speaks of Christ as the first fruits that slept, Referring to his body vs.35-38 speaks of how the dead are raised up. Paul goes on to explain in vs.42-54 that the natural will be transformed to a spiritual type of body: FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

A promise was made to the converted dying thief by Jesus when he was on the cross (Lk. 23:42). “Verily I say unto you, today shalt thou be with me in Paradise.” Some claim this is not correct in its punctuation and the comma should be before the today as if Jesus is meant “today I'm saying this to you.” But there are no commas found in the Greek writing to give weight to this. Besides Jesus is answering the thief who was asking to remember him when he comes into his kingdom. Did Jesus lie when he said to the thief today you will be WITH ME in paradise? For if either Jesus or the thief went out of existence then his statement was not true. Then the question is who was resurrected?

Then those who hold to the deity of Christ and soul sleep at the same time have to really stretch the Scriptures. For it was Jesus who said in Jn.2:19 He would raise up his own body, an impossible task to do if you no longer existing after death. For the Scripture states after he died he went and proclaimed his victory to the spirits in prison who were there since the time of the flood (1Pt.3:19-20). Jesus meant that very day he and the thief would be united together in paradise, otherwise there is no significance to the statement if it is left to some unknown future time.

Abraham's bosom (Paradise) is no longer located in the earth as it was in the OT prior to Christ's ascension.We find in Eph.4 Jesus descended first into “the lower parts of the earth he then ascended on high” bringing a multitude with him (upward to be with him). So since Christ ascended all go upward to be with Him.

This is the Scripture that is consistently neglected by those who promote soul-sleep. As in Phil.1:23 Paul states to be with Christ is far better and to die is gain." But I live in the flesh… For I am hard pressed between the two having a desire to depart and be with Christ which is far better nevertheless, to be in the flesh is more needful for you.” What does Paul mean by I live in the flesh if he is not referring to the body? This would hardly be so if one ceases to be alive. Is non existence better than existence? How could this be better if one does not continue to live after? And notice he says he departs to be with Christ. This would be impossible if we go to sleep in the ground with the body, unless Jesus is in the ground too. When a believer dies their spirit goes to be with the Lord in heaven.” In Phil. 1:23-24, Paul states that he desired to depart to be with Christ, which is far better. Christ is in heaven, He's not in the ground, so if this was soul-sleep, he being with Christ, Christ would have to be in the ground.

In 2 Cor. 5:1-8, Paul writes when our earthly house is destroyed (our body) we have another building that is eternal. Examining this carefully we find Paul believed our Spirit /soul existed without the body. The very point he makes about we are in this tent, we groan to be clothed which is in heaven. There is an intermediate state before we have the resurrection where we are united with our former body that is transformed to house us permanently. He sums it all up in verse 8 saying, “we are always confident knowing that while we are home in the body we are absent from the Lord. and he goes on to say to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.” Remember this little thingy? Obviously something survives that has life after the body dies. What is absent when one dies? The soul. It becomes separated. Where is the Lord? In heaven. And that is exactly where Paul said all who die in Christ are headed. When all our earthly tent is dissolved, we can be assured that we will be in the presence of the One we serve and we love here on earth. We are immediately ushered into our new home like moving from one city to the next.

In Acts 7, when Stephen was stoned, he fell asleep. Does this mean his soul became unconscious? The term sleep is used only of believers not unbelievers. As death is a temporary suspending of our physical activity on earth but not of our Spirit. V.59 "Stephen looked upward and cried out Lord receive my spirit." How can he receive it if its going to sleep in the ground? The Bible says this he said truthfully, being filled with the Holy Spirit. The Greek is explicit in that there is an urgency as in, receive it right now. There was no temporary stop over for Stephen. Just as Jesus committed his Spirit to the Father, Stephen committed his Spirit to the Son.

Heb.11 has the hall of the faithful who died Heb 12:1 tells us we are surrounded by a great crowd of witnesses. What kind of witnesses are these? Living ones who went before us. V.23 “to the general assembly and Church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect.” (the word for witnesses means those who are able to testify which certainly mean living ones).

Jesus taught that he is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of the living, not of the dead, referring to Moses at the burning bush. The purpose was to prove life exists beyond death, that God is still (not was) the God of the living. That the Saints of old were still alive “for all live unto Him.” This silenced the Sadducee’s who challenged Him on this matter because they did not believe in an afterlife and it should do the same for those Sadducees today who say that a soul cannot live after the body dies.
Acts 23:8: “For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, no angels or spirit.” In other words not in body or spirit. Jesus refuted their teachings saying he was the God of the living not the dead.

Josephus wrote in antiquities b.28:4 “The doctrine held by the Sadducees is this, that the souls die with the bodies.” Exactly what 7th day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Jesus refuted them by saying, God is the God of the living not the dead. As Josephus wrote “They take away the belief of the immortal existence of the soul and the punishment and rewards of Hades. (War b. 8:14)

In Jn.11:25-26 Jesus said “I am the resurrection and the life; he that believeth in me though he were dead, yet shall he live; and whoever liveth and Believeth in me shall NEVER die. Here is the blessed assurance that one will live forever, that one possesses a present life that will continue forever, never die.

“For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus ( I Thess 4:14). Whether one believes this is the 2nd coming or the rapture is irrelevant. The point is made that there are those who come with Jesus to be united with their bodies. Since the dead rise first and those who are alive don’t receive a resurrection but a transformation. Vs.15 “For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”

Where is Jesus coming from? Heaven. If Jesus is bringing some people with him and they don’t have resurrected bodies yet, doesn’t this mean they are immaterial spirits. What dead are rising? Certainly this are not those who are alive and remain. The dead are those who bodies are put to sleep. This is exactly what Paul explains in I Cor. 15:52-54 “the dead will be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed (those who are still alive) previously Paul explains the body in vs.35-49 vs.42 so is the resurrection of the dead. The BODY is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.” So resurrection refers to the human body not the soul or spirit, it is the body that sleeps and will be resurrected. As we have seen our hope is to be immediately with the Lord, not wait for some undetermined future time. It is the doctrine of soul sleep that needs to be put to death.

endofallfears · Mar 8, 2011

Good presentation, Heremon. I was going to comment on the subject, but you did a much better job then I would have done.

zone · Mar 8, 2011

Heremon said:

LOLhaha!

LawofLove · Mar 9, 2011

Heremon said:

From Lawoflove:The word here for spirit you used it wrong Job 34:14-15 If he set his heart upon man,if he gather unto himself his spirit(God's spirit:H7307 ruach see jdg3:10)and breath(H5397nshamah mans spirit or breath see Gen 2:7)So no it dos not gather himself to himself.
Acts 23:8The word here means the Holy spirit context context context!
Matt 12:43;luke 4:36This is a unclean spirit or in other words "demon" I dont know if I can read anymore of this stuff bad way to use the bible!
luke 12:19Soul. Gr.psuchē, “breath,” “life,” or “soul.” Psuchē (plural, psuchai) is translated 40 times in the NT as “life” or “lives,” clearly with the meaning commonly attributed to the word “life” (see chs. 2:20; 6:25; 16:25; etc.). It is rendered 58 times as “soul” or “souls” (see chs. 10:28; 11:29; 12:18; etc.). In some of these instances it means simply “people” (see Acts 7:14; 27:37; 1 Peter 3:20; etc.). In other instances it is translated as, or equivalent to, some personal pronoun (see Matt. 12:18; 2 Cor. 12:15; see on Ps. 16:10). At times it refers to the emotions (see Mark 14:34; Luke 2:35; etc.), to the natural appetites (see Rev. 18:14), to the mind (see Acts 14:2; Phil. 1:27), or to the heart (see Eph. 6:6). There is nothing in the word psuchē itself that even remotely implies a conscious entity that is able to survive the death of the body and hence be immortal. In no instance of its use in the Bible does psuchē refer to a conscious entity able to exist apart from the body. The Bible knows nothing of a living, conscious soul that, supposedly, survives the body. For the Heb. nephesh, the Hebrew equivalent of the Gr. puschē, see on 1 Kings 17:21; Ps. 16:10. All that is said of one word applies to the other. It also means life read above^^
Isa 42:5 The breath of life and the spirit of God two differnt things.Like I said befor ^^H7307(spirit) is used as spirit of God.sometimes as mans spirit too see Gen 41:8.Context Context Context really matters!
1cor 2:11-12:11. Spirit of man. A man’s private thoughts, desires, intentions, and plans are fully known and understood only by himself. No fellow mortal can know them unless the man himself chooses to reveal them. If he does decide to reveal his ideas, thoughts and plans to others, they can know and understand only as much as is opened up to them.No man. Literally, “no one,” thus including beings such as angels. 12. Spirit of the world. This expression is probably closely parallel to “wisdom of this world” (v. 6). The world is here represented as possessing and imparting a spirit which in its essential nature is evil. The “spirit of the world” is opposed to the Spirit of God. Its possessors find no pleasure in heavenly things, but concentrate on the temporary things of this life.Spirit which is of God. Rather, “Spirit which is from God.” The reference is to the Holy Spirit.
1Tim 5:6From Lawoflove:1 Tim5:6 Dead. That is, spiritually dead “in trespasses and sins” (see on Eph. 2:1–5; Jude 12; Rev. 3:1).
Rev 6:9-11It should be remembered that John was viewing pictorial representations, and that the rules governing the interpretation of such prophecies must be kept in mind when the meaning of the various symbols is sought (see on Eze. 1:10).It appears that the symbolization of the fifth seal was presented to encourage those who faced martyrdom and death, with the assurance that despite the seeming triumph of the enemy, vindication would ultimately come. Such an encouragement would be particularly heartening for those living in the time of the terrible persecutions of the later Middle Ages, but more especially during the time of the Reformation.
Matt 27:52The spirit or breath of man dos not die it is what gives the body life not to be mixed up with the Holy spirit.52. Many bodies. Only Matthew records this incident connected with the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. Compare Ps. 68:18; Eph. 4:8. It should be noted that while the graves were opened at the time of Christ’s death, the resurrected saints did not rise till after Jesus arose (Matt. 27:53). How appropriate that Christ should bring forth with Him from the grave some of the captives whom Satan had held in the prison house of death These martyrs came forth with Jesus, immortalized, and later ascended with Him to heaven
luke16:19-31 This parable was designed to teach that future destiny is determined by the use men make of the opportunities of this present life. Jesus was not discussing either the state of man in death or the time when rewards will be passed out; He was simply drawing a clear distinction between this life and the next and showing the relationship of each to the other. Furthermore, to interpret this parable as teaching that men receive their rewards immediately at death clearly contradicts Jesus’ own declaration that “the Son of man shall … reward every man according to his works” when He “shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels” (see on Matt. 16:27; 25:31–41; 1 Cor. 15:51–55; 1 Thess. 4:16, 17; Rev. 22:12; etc.). I would go on but you have miss understood to much as it is and the bible tells you to study and find your self approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,rightly dividing the word of truth.I am not going to study for you.
I hope you go back and look at what I put sorry I did not give you all the answer at work but wanted to give you something to look and and understand better. Take care

Mich223 · Feb 16, 2012

Ecclesiastes 12:7 says the spirit returns to God upon death. Another scripture says we are citizens of heaven. I think once we are resurrected we are with God. Not sure when that occurs though. Will have to wait and see, and pray I'm on the side of the Lord.

luciddream1982 · Feb 17, 2012

Dead people sure do a whole lot of talking...

Luk 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

luciddream1982 · Feb 17, 2012

Notice that Jesus didnt say he WAS the God of Abraham, and the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob. He said I AM....present tense.

Mar 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Mar 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

Those who believe in soul sleep do indeed greatly err

Are the dead dead or do they keep on liveing?..............

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