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Psalm 12
Help Lord! The godly are no more,
the faithful have vanished from among men.

Psalm14
All have turned aside.
they have together become corrupt
there is no one good,
no,--not one.

In my quest to find good friends, I have always came up jaded. I have plenty of people close to me that are not Christ-oriented, but I find that most of the people I get close to our worldly and I wonder why--because I usually/always end up getting hurt by them in some way or other.

When God saved me five years ago from chaos, I was changed forever in a way I cannot possibly explain--because its still happening...(meaning I still feel the process of God changing me.) I have not been able to find anybody besides Jesus that is there for me like a sister or brother. I confess that most of my trek has been alone--not that there has not been people around me or friends in different ways, but I have not found ANYBODY that understands the way the little prince was frustrated with the pilot in Antonie de Saint Exupery's The Little Prince.

To tell you the truth, I have been hurt so many times by people who I think get it (understand that to love God and do whatever he tells us, dwelling in love is the purpose of life, and so much more that is hard to explain in words) and later find out that they are just hypocrites, fakes, they don't truly care, or they are lost in debauchery...

And I do not know what to do with my feelings on this people. Are we suppose to care for them as Jesus did? Are we just to 'let them go'? Are we to pray for them continually? Can that prayer become an idol? God willing, I would do anything for their salvation, but I just end up feeling hurt, confused, and even bamboozled by them.

And sometimes it feels like I cannot find good people. I don't know if I'll ever find anyone enough like me that they can even be a 'good friend' to me. I gave up everything to seek and follow Christ, and now it feels almost tragic how easily I spiritually see through people's religious/spiritual charades. It's like why don't you do what the Bible says if you believe it...and I know why you don't love me as a brother, because there is no love of God in your heart.

And it feels like I am almost drowning in a pool of people that are not Christ-oriented and I feel like screaming. But I do not know who to scream to.

There are times when I would go to churches and talk to pastors about this problem. But them too, I could see through...and I could see either a desire to get rid of me or an enigma at my predicament.

I suppose I could even be writing this for some of my friends who aren't good. Even if you think nobody cares, God cares and so do I as your Christian brother and its worth fighting for. It's worth fighting to save your soul even when everybody stands against you but God.

Perhaps I am writing it for my own soul. Keep perservering soul. Very well, there is no one that seems to truly care for you in this life, God does and he will eventually have mercy on you and not keep breaking your heart with BAD friends. Maybe he will even change the bad ones into good friends. Who knows?

Am I wrong to let myself get close to sinners when I feel not only let by God to do so, when either I see through quote good people who are false or I do not see anybody else that desires to be my friend?!?

Following God to attempt a rescue mission to save sinners has both broken heart every time and also has given me life, love, and life--deeper and richer than I could have imagined.

So I put it up to you. What's wrong with me? Are there no good people?

God bless and may you stay in the light

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nothing you are human and lonely I dont know if this is much help....I have been feeling similar lately. I have spent the last few years developing some awesome friendships!! and of course i have my long term friends, that are there thick and thin....but lately i have realized God has been blessing so many people through me, and when i need something no one is to be found. I thought is was because I had been sewing in the wrong feilds??? I give sooooooooo much!! shouldnt i reap a harvest?? Yes, but after prayer I realized this season is supposed to be quieter, I was getting over extended. It is true, humans are needy. If you are a giver there is a taker in need and ready to take. Luckily there is Jesus!!! who is always always always ready to give!! so that I can keep on giving
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Psalm 12
Help Lord! The godly are no more,
the faithful have vanished from among men.

Psalm14
All have turned aside.
they have together become corrupt
there is no one good,
no,--not one.

In my quest to find good friends, I have always came up jaded. I have plenty of people close to me that are not Christ-oriented, but I find that most of the people I get close to our worldly and I wonder why--because I usually/always end up getting hurt by them in some way or other.

When God saved me five years ago from chaos, I was changed forever in a way I cannot possibly explain--because its still happening...(meaning I still feel the process of God changing me.) I have not been able to find anybody besides Jesus that is there for me like a sister or brother. I confess that most of my trek has been alone--not that there has not been people around me or friends in different ways, but I have not found ANYBODY that understands the way the little prince was frustrated with the pilot in Antonie de Saint Exupery's The Little Prince.

To tell you the truth, I have been hurt so many times by people who I think get it (understand that to love God and do whatever he tells us, dwelling in love is the purpose of life, and so much more that is hard to explain in words) and later find out that they are just hypocrites, fakes, they don't truly care, or they are lost in debauchery...

And I do not know what to do with my feelings on this people. Are we suppose to care for them as Jesus did? Are we just to 'let them go'? Are we to pray for them continually? Can that prayer become an idol? God willing, I would do anything for their salvation, but I just end up feeling hurt, confused, and even bamboozled by them.

And sometimes it feels like I cannot find good people. I don't know if I'll ever find anyone enough like me that they can even be a 'good friend' to me. I gave up everything to seek and follow Christ, and now it feels almost tragic how easily I spiritually see through people's religious/spiritual charades. It's like why don't you do what the Bible says if you believe it...and I know why you don't love me as a brother, because there is no love of God in your heart.

And it feels like I am almost drowning in a pool of people that are not Christ-oriented and I feel like screaming. But I do not know who to scream to.

There are times when I would go to churches and talk to pastors about this problem. But them too, I could see through...and I could see either a desire to get rid of me or an enigma at my predicament.

I suppose I could even be writing this for some of my friends who aren't good. Even if you think nobody cares, God cares and so do I as your Christian brother and its worth fighting for. It's worth fighting to save your soul even when everybody stands against you but God.

Perhaps I am writing it for my own soul. Keep perservering soul. Very well, there is no one that seems to truly care for you in this life, God does and he will eventually have mercy on you and not keep breaking your heart with BAD friends. Maybe he will even change the bad ones into good friends. Who knows?

Am I wrong to let myself get close to sinners when I feel not only let by God to do so, when either I see through quote good people who are false or I do not see anybody else that desires to be my friend?!?

Following God to attempt a rescue mission to save sinners has both broken heart every time and also has given me life, love, and life--deeper and richer than I could have imagined.

So I put it up to you. What's wrong with me? Are there no good people?

God bless and may you stay in the light

tony
WOW my friend just wow! Amen! God is gracious to you. Wow!
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when someone called Jesus good His reply was????
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sorry i only got half way through your story before the sadness was too much and I felt lead to pray for you before continuing.
Dear Lord we lift up all that seek you and ask the you bless their lives. send them hope and renewal and friends to show them that they don't need to go through life alone. let them know your love show them how your power is great and how you have surrounded and hedged my life with friends that love me unconditionally let those who read this post find that kind of friendship. one based on the Love of God that we can love one another without boundaries and conditions as God loves us. Let our light shine forth Lord and pour forth to all who surround us. In Jesus name we pray, amen

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15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, as so many,[a] peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ..


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nothing you are human and lonely I dont know if this is much help....I have been feeling similar lately. I have spent the last few years developing some awesome friendships!! and of course i have my long term friends, that are there thick and thin....but lately i have realized God has been blessing so many people through me, and when i need something no one is to be found. I thought is was because I had been sewing in the wrong feilds??? I give sooooooooo much!! shouldnt i reap a harvest?? Yes, but after prayer I realized this season is supposed to be quieter, I was getting over extended. It is true, humans are needy. If you are a giver there is a taker in need and ready to take. Luckily there is Jesus!!! who is always always always ready to give!! so that I can keep on giving
your body is a temple to God remember to feed it and take time for yourself and your renewal. you owe it to God. its your duty to be HAPPY!!!

don't despair. God loves you!
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For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


2 Corinthians 2:15-17
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, as so many,[a] peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ..


Col 3
15 Andlet the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.
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when someone called Jesus good His reply was????
Hi

He stated that only God alone is good.

Jesus pbuh never missed an opportunity to teach us. Are we brave enough to accept the simple lesson that is there to be learnt ?
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Psalm 12
Help Lord! The godly are no more,
the faithful have vanished from among men.

Psalm14
All have turned aside.
they have together become corrupt
there is no one good,
no,--not one.

In my quest to find good friends, I have always came up jaded. I have plenty of people close to me that are not Christ-oriented, but I find that most of the people I get close to our worldly and I wonder why--because I usually/always end up getting hurt by them in some way or other.

When God saved me five years ago from chaos, I was changed forever in a way I cannot possibly explain--because its still happening...(meaning I still feel the process of God changing me.) I have not been able to find anybody besides Jesus that is there for me like a sister or brother. I confess that most of my trek has been alone--not that there has not been people around me or friends in different ways, but I have not found ANYBODY that understands the way the little prince was frustrated with the pilot in Antonie de Saint Exupery's The Little Prince.

To tell you the truth, I have been hurt so many times by people who I think get it (understand that to love God and do whatever he tells us, dwelling in love is the purpose of life, and so much more that is hard to explain in words) and later find out that they are just hypocrites, fakes, they don't truly care, or they are lost in debauchery...

And I do not know what to do with my feelings on this people. Are we suppose to care for them as Jesus did? Are we just to 'let them go'? Are we to pray for them continually? Can that prayer become an idol? God willing, I would do anything for their salvation, but I just end up feeling hurt, confused, and even bamboozled by them.

And sometimes it feels like I cannot find good people. I don't know if I'll ever find anyone enough like me that they can even be a 'good friend' to me. I gave up everything to seek and follow Christ, and now it feels almost tragic how easily I spiritually see through people's religious/spiritual charades. It's like why don't you do what the Bible says if you believe it...and I know why you don't love me as a brother, because there is no love of God in your heart.

And it feels like I am almost drowning in a pool of people that are not Christ-oriented and I feel like screaming. But I do not know who to scream to.

There are times when I would go to churches and talk to pastors about this problem. But them too, I could see through...and I could see either a desire to get rid of me or an enigma at my predicament.

I suppose I could even be writing this for some of my friends who aren't good. Even if you think nobody cares, God cares and so do I as your Christian brother and its worth fighting for. It's worth fighting to save your soul even when everybody stands against you but God.

Perhaps I am writing it for my own soul. Keep perservering soul. Very well, there is no one that seems to truly care for you in this life, God does and he will eventually have mercy on you and not keep breaking your heart with BAD friends. Maybe he will even change the bad ones into good friends. Who knows?

Am I wrong to let myself get close to sinners when I feel not only let by God to do so, when either I see through quote good people who are false or I do not see anybody else that desires to be my friend?!?

Following God to attempt a rescue mission to save sinners has both broken heart every time and also has given me life, love, and life--deeper and richer than I could have imagined.

So I put it up to you. What's wrong with me? Are there no good people?

God bless and may you stay in the light

tony
I have struggled with this as well, although I always try to see all that is good rather than what is bad.
Like you, others have hurt me, and I wondered just what to do as a christian and how to let the hurt go.
The scripture about are battles being against the powers and principalities of evil helped me.
Also that God loved us first.
I came to understand that none of us is good, it is Jesus that brings the good in us.
I also began to see the sins of others as separate from them. Simply because it is sin we battle, not each other.
Now this does not mean another is not accountible, but this is the judgement of God, not ours.
I also saw that I am called to set myself aside in Jesus, thus, always forgiving, always loving, always looking to Jesus.
Rather than the other persons actions, or my own injuries.
When one lives in Jesus, one has to always remeber that Jesus died for everyone.
Also, when we live in Jesus, we are no longer of the world, thus the things of the world must be set aside for Jesus.
Forgiving all .
We do still have to live in the world, but that is where giving all to Jesus with praise and thanksgiving, setting ones self aside comes in.
Setting not just ons self, but everything that is of the world, for Jesus!
Loving as Jesus loves us!

God bless.
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I had similar thoughts but different in the way of faith, the title of my thread would be "is there any faith in God anymore? What I mean is that everyone seems to believe in God and everything else, they believe in being good and doing good things and good good good. They won't read or go by the Bible and they do whatever feels right. People don't want to offend anyone or hurt their feelings so they don't warn people that they are going to Hell. People are so good nowadays. as well as helpful, especially the government.
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A priest I know told us last week that when things dont seem to be goin your way, God has something better than "your way"

So i guess if you dont find good people anymore God is digging out the best people to put into your life
The fact tht so many brothers and sisters have replied to your post is proof enough of this.

Remember Romans 8.28 In ALL things God works for good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.

God Bless,

Keep praying and praising!!

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Genesis 1:31

31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

He made man on the sixth day, so who did God deem VERY GOOD?

Genesis 2:1

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Every one was made on this day and declared very good. The Bible states that all things WORK toward the GOOD of God and those who love Him. Please do not judge by what you can see. Judge in righteous judgement in that every man gets what he asks for from the one behind the curtain.
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I'm kinda nice. But I fall short. But its not about me. Its about the god who lives inside of me. I just put on his robes.
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I remebered the scripture that brought so much streangth, understanding, help and love in Jesus.

: Do all things as unto the Lord and not unto man !:

I loved these words so much, simply because when all one does is for Jesus, the actions of others have no hold on one.

In Jesus, God bless.
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I have given the whole "christian friend" thing much thought,too, as I also have been disappointed. I think we all have. You summed it up with Psalms 14. You and I are both included in that. We are easily aware of when someone disappoints us, but what about when it's the other way around? And it is possible to offend others without realizing it.
So what do we do? Avoid that person? Whisper "in God's name" about them behind their back? Hmmm.. we are not to let the sun go down on our anger or even take communion if we have offense with our brother. I believe when we are aware of a conflict we are to initiate communication and try to resolve the issue in a Christlike manner. Someone has to be the bigger Christian.
I also recently realized something: Jesus was a friend to all but even He didn't have one true friend in the end. Every single one of them deserted him. John came back, to the cross. How symbolic. If Jesus can forgive and offer friendship expecting nothing in return, then I've at least got to try.
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I have given the whole "christian friend" thing much thought,too, as I also have been disappointed. I think we all have. You summed it up with Psalms 14. You and I are both included in that. We are easily aware of when someone disappoints us, but what about when it's the other way around? And it is possible to offend others without realizing it.
So what do we do? Avoid that person? Whisper "in God's name" about them behind their back? Hmmm.. we are not to let the sun go down on our anger or even take communion if we have offense with our brother. I believe when we are aware of a conflict we are to initiate communication and try to resolve the issue in a Christlike manner. Someone has to be the bigger Christian.
I also recently realized something: Jesus was a friend to all but even He didn't have one true friend in the end. Every single one of them deserted him. John came back, to the cross. How symbolic. If Jesus can forgive and offer friendship expecting nothing in return, then I've at least got to try.
Good consideration, when Jesus suffered the cross.
Peter even denyed Jesus.
Yet all were forgiven.
Jesus said, I put my trust in no man.
This is why I believe we are called to put all our trust in Jesus first and always!
God bless.
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