Gays & Lesbians???

I was just wondering what you thought about gays and lesbians. I have a friend who is a lesbian and sometimes i feel so uncomfortable. The Bible says that you shouldn't be gay, but its wrong to judge people. What do you think?

[nanabean]

I think this topic has been hashed over and over and over again in these forums!! Hahaha...I am not trying to be mean but I've just seen alot of this in here. I say treat others as you would have them treat you. We all do things that could make others "uncomfortable" with what each of us beleive to be right. If you are uncomfortable around your lesbian friend because she is "hitting" on you, thats one thing.....but if you are uncomfortable around her because of your "judgement" of her lifestyle choice, thats another. Either way, you too have a choice. Either continue being with her the way you would any other friend, or go your seperate way. Neither of these choices is wrong, what would be wrong is to continue with this friendship and be uncomfortable around her every time you are together....because that's not fair to HER. May the Lord show you the path......

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by gigitgirl

I was just wondering what you thought about gays and lesbians. I have a friend who is a lesbian and sometimes i feel so uncomfortable. The Bible says that you shouldn't be gay, but its wrong to judge people. What do you think?

we have to judge or know good and evil, else we would not know if we were doing good or evil it is called knowledge/discernment. you are not judging her but rather the sin she is living in. but the Bible does say not to point out the splinter in thine brother's eye when you have a beam in yours, in other words if you are sleeping with your boyfriend/girlfriend out of wedlock , then you should get your own life right, before you try to get her life right..

Ga 6:1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, RESTORE such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Notice ye which are spiritual.

Ga 5:16This I say then, Walk in the SPIRIT, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the FLESH.

There is a great movie called "The Bible tells me so" which considers this question. Does God loves people who are homosexual? Yes. I know what some of the arguments are, and many of the scriptures, by the way did you know that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was NOT about homosexual activity but that the residents of Sodom and Gomorah failled to show hospitality to God's people. (Jeremiah 50:40-43; Zephaniah 2:9,10; Luke 10:5-12) So my question is whether modern sodomites are those who fail to show compassion to gay/lesbian/transgendered persons?

Originally Posted by gigitgirl

I was just wondering what you thought about gays and lesbians. I have a friend who is a lesbian and sometimes i feel so uncomfortable. The Bible says that you shouldn't be gay, but its wrong to judge people. What do you think?

1 Corinthians 5: 9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

It is wrong to condemn people, but it is not wrong to warn of what is coming as a condemnation to those that do not know Christ. ( Joyhn 3:16-21)

It is right to correct people, especially believers in Christ, but it is wrong if you do the same thing. That is what is meant by removing the plank from your eye first before removing the speck in thy brother's or sister's eye. He did not say... once you remove the beam out of your eye, then ignore the speck in your brother's or sister's eye... He said then after you, yourself, have repented with His help, then you can help your brother or sister in leaning on Christ to remove the speck in their eye.

For a non-believer, let Jesus be your guide. If we are not to have company with fornicators, then certainly, the same can be said for the "homosexual". We cannot ignore the sin to be polite or politically correct. Jesus came into the world to save sinners... and the world is telling your friends that it is normal to be that way. In order to be their friend, you should lean on Jesus to help tell them the truth that they are living in sin and that sin has dominion over their lives, but Jesus can deliver them if they put their trust in Him today... while it is still called today.

Due to the lies out there in the world as well as various testimonies as to why a person is "gay", we can turn to the testimonies of those that have been delivered and mayhap there, the Father may draw them unto the Son to be delivered from the dominion of that sin over their lives.

http://www.anotherway.com/menus/pages.html

That web page above has names on it that are links to personal testimonies.

I would like to point out that anyone thinking God expects them to make a commitment to Him, then they should consider failure is coming. We cannot overcome the flesh by the flesh by keeping our commitment to God or to follow Jesus . See, God has made the Covenant with us and that He will do it. All He asked from us is to believe on Him so that is why the just shall live by faith. He did more than just save us in making us His, but promised to help us live as His. That is the only way we can get to know Him is when we take Him at His Word.

So keep in mind as your friend reads those testimonies. Jesus can change lives, but sometime believers get double-minded in their walk with Him that they live religiously... doing the best they can and failing and so they say that Jesus doesn't work, but that is not living by faith in Him.. that is living by keeping their commitments to Him... and by it... is the knowledge of sin.. that they failed... thus proving the necessity of tunring His work over to Him and trusting Him to do it because He has made the Covenant saying He would.

One cannot do both. For God to receive the glory, a believer must cease from his or her own boast in the flesh if they wish others to see their faith and hope in Jesus Christ so hat they can look to Him and place their confidence in Him and not in themselves. That is His glory and why we would give Him thanksgiving. That is why the poor in spirit are blessed because they cannot look to themselves at all for they know they cannot do it so all eyes are looking to God for help. That is why little children can come to Jesus and in order to receive the Kingdom of God, we have to become as a child and all they can do is trust the Lord.

Trust is the basis for all relationships and so our testimonies should refelct that relationship with Him as well as our faith in Him and all His promises to us.

I felt the need to explain this as I have read some testimonies on another link where one former lesbian kept re-committing her life to God... thus goes to show that the power in living the chrstian life is not by keeping one's commitment to God but by trusting the Lord in all His promises to us for then we shall get to know Him and the pwoer of His resurrection.. when He delivers us from our sins so that we shall no longer live in them nor have sin holding dominion over our lives. That would be the only reason we would thank Him for His workmanship in Heaven to give Him the glory and not glory in ourselves nor in any false boasts in the flesh as if christianity is a religion based on the will of the flesh and the will of man.

Anyway, trust Jesus to help you do what He wants you to do. If He shows you opportnities to share things directly... indirectly... whatever.. then do so, but eventually, if you see that you cannot plant any other seed, then you should stop having company with her. Make no mistake... if you see that she will not hear you or get mad, then walk away altogether, because the Lord wants you to. Eventually the talk and the company can influence your walk as it leads you more and more into the world... and we are called to stand apart from the world as a witness to the Gospel.

1 Corinthians 15:33Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

So don't be surprise if they hate you.

Luke 6:Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. 23Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

John 15: 17These things I command you, that ye love one another. 18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.


John 7:7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Matthew 10:12And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Romans 10: 8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Lean on Jesus to help you love Him more than your friend so you can really love your friend to tell her the truth. May the Lord help you to do that... and walk away if He is not received. Amen.

You should show her kindness and Love, but according to the word of God says," Bad company corrupts good behaivor". Understand that these people that chose to live this life style and they are possed by demons. God warns us not to be not unequally yoked with unbelievers. You are not judging her, you are making a rightious judgement.