Revelation Chapter 6 Verse 2

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Gentile

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Who is this? and is this currently present in the world today?

God bless.
 
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i believe thats the the antichrist on the white horse. NICEA ROME 325
 
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read about it in A BOOK CALLED NICEAN FATHERS.THATS THE WHORE IN REVELATION
 
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Sorry, but Revelation was written TO 1st century Christians under Roman persecution. The events were to shortly come to pass in reference to their time. They were already in the kingdom and the tribulation at the time of writing. The overwhelming majority of the book has LONG since been fulfilled. The 8th head which was judged was Emperor Domition. Only the Great White throne judgment and eternity essentially remain. The book is mostly historical from our vantage point.
 
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But isn't Rome still the Whore ?, who had Daughters whom are denominations ?

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (II Corinthians 11:3)
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. (Revelation 2:20)

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.’’ (Revelation 17:18)

God bless.
 
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SLEPSLOG4 . WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. HOW MUCH ROPE DO YOU NEED? I SEE YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR PASTOR. YOU ARE IN GROSS ERROR
 
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NO MY PRECIOUS BROTHER. SLEPSOG 4 REVELATION APPLYS TO ALL THE AGES SINCE JOHN WROTE IT
 
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SLEPSOG 4
The overwhelming majority of the book has LONG since been fulfilled

I disagree. Slepsog....

The Rapture hasn't happened yet. I Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Unlike the white horse rider in Revelation Chapter 19 whose name is called the Word of God, this rider does not have a name. This rider is the Spirit of the Antichrist (as Stone mentioned) impersonating Jesus Christ. The Antichrist is so close to true Christianity, that it would deceive the very elect if possible (Matt. 24:24).

So if this rider is to trying to deceive all, then it must be present in this day and age.. no?

God bless. Thanks for all, and any replys.
 
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[quote=stone;416164]i believe thats the the antichrist on the white horse. NICEA ROME 325[/quote]
Revelation 6:2 has nothing to do with the holy Council of Nicea in Nicea (Nicaea) in 325 AD. It is a holy, sacred Council of the Church that Christ founded. Here is a correct view of Revelation 6:2
"6:2 The first rider (on the white horse, carrying a bow) represents the spirit of conquest, reminiscent of fierce divine judgment in the OT, usually wrought through the military power of adversaries (Jer. 27:29; Ezek. 5:15). Jesus taught "nation will rise against nation" (Matt. 24:7). The figure here probably represents liberators of the oppressed people of God."
(page 1723: OSB Orthodox Study Bible, NT, NKJV. Copyright 2008, St. Athanasius Academy of Orthodox Theology, Elk Grove, CA. Fr. Jack Norman Sparks, Ph.D., Dean. Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Bibles.).
Rev. 6:2 "And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer." NKJV
Rev. 6:2 "And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and the one sitting on him, having a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went forth conquering and in or that he should conquer." ONT, Vol. 2, page 519.
Comment: "Saint Bed the Venerable: "Surely the white horse is the Church; the Rider Who was commanding it is the Lord; He had a bow because He was coming to make war against the powers of the air; and a crown of victory was given to Him because by dying He overthrew the reign of death." (On the Tabernacle, Bk. One, #4, 25:11, p. 14.).
"Saint Irenaeos: "For to this end was the Lord born ... of Whom also John says in the Apocalypse, "He went forth conquering and in order that He should conquer." (Against Heresies, Bk. IV, Ch. XXVI, in Ante-Nicene Fathers, I:493.).
"Archbishop Andrew of Caesarea: "Observe the good order which descends from the first choirs to the second. For the first voice, who commands the coming of the angel who mystically depicts the vision, was hear from one of the living creatures -- the lion. It seems to me that the lion signifies the royal authority of the apostles over the demons. ... "He went forth conquering and in order that he should conquer": the first victory of the conversion of the pagans, and the second is the apostles' voluntary departure from the body joined with tortures." (Commentary on the Apocalypse, Ch.13. in The Apocalypse in the Teachings of Ancient Christianity, 125, 126.).

God bless us all and save us in the power of the blood of Jesus Christ upon His Cross, and
by the life-giving, saving power of the glorious and holy resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, Who trampled down death by His death, and Who upon those in the tombs, bestoweth Life. God save us by Christ's great mercy and love (John 3:16); God help us live new and living lives of obedience to Christ. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

 
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**** **** ****. crap crap crap.

sorry, I knew there was a reason I avoid reading Revelations. I prefer not having visions of the future running through my head.

wait the lamb is Jesus, but the important part is that the first seal was opened by Jesus. the second seal by the red horse or demon or genocides that have been happening, mmmm

Revelation 6

First Seal: The Conqueror

1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals;[a] and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
 
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i believe thats the the antichrist on the white horse. NICEA ROME 325

the white horse, and the rider had a bow; is when christianity was spread by conquering nations and force them to accept christian teachings.
the red horse is the 1st and the2nd world war. because it mentioned a great sword.meaning modern warfare, guns and cannons and bombs.
the black horse is riding today,the world: material, and spiritual,are in darkness.
and there is food problems.and oil problems(fuel) and religion problems(wine)
the pale horse is when the false prophet is riding(satans man) he will cause death and will start the great tribulation. he will kill the saints, and the prophets from back then.
the 5th seal are all the saints that were killed for their testimony, symbolicly asking God for revenge: in revelation18:20 rejoice over her,thou heaven ,and ye holy apostles and prophets: for GOD hath AVENGEDyou on her(babylon punished.) GODS revenge.

''wakeup''.
 
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Actually, even many Christian scholars believe, at least symbolically, that a majority of Revolation was written for 1st century Christians who were suffering under Roman rule. Now, now saying the Tribulations won't happen, but much of the symbolism used in Revelation was very meaningful to 1st century Christians, and why the end times could've come many times before now.
 
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i believe thats the the antichrist on the white horse. NICEA ROME 325

no, because the whore was there in the days of the egytian empire;
the whore is sitting on the 7heads(the 7empires)
1: egypt. 2:syria. 3:babylon. 4:medo persia. 5:greece. 6:rome. 7:new rome, british emp. its ruling now.(all english speaking nations) the 8th will come out of the 7th.
the 7th transformed into the one world order. it is coming soon.the false prophet will take control.(dont call him the anti christ, because it is not accurate) rev.19:20.
every person that does not believe in christ is an antichrist. the false prophet will declaire himself god.

''wakeup''.
 
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no, because the whore was there in the days of the egytian empire;
the whore is sitting on the 7heads(the 7empires)
1: egypt. 2:syria. 3:babylon. 4:medo persia. 5:greece. 6:rome. 7:new rome, british emp. its ruling now.(all english speaking nations) the 8th will come out of the 7th.
the 7th transformed into the one world order. it is coming soon.the false prophet will take control.(dont call him the anti christ, because it is not accurate) rev.19:20.
every person that does not believe in christ is an antichrist. the false prophet will declaire himself god.

''wakeup''.
your theory is flawed, considering Britain is no longer a ruling empire, and Russia had a good run for a while at being the world power right along side America. Oh, and not to mention you totally forget the ruling empire that was China, a major world power in ancient times, and probably the most well-read place in existence for centuries in ancient times
 
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Who is this? and is this currently present in the world today?

God bless.
[/QUOTE]This horse has been and gone, although still here. It represents how christianity was spread by force. The rider had a crown. He was a king or leader and had authority. He had a bow and he conquered. This is war. The Romans did this. They would kill anyone who didn't conform or accept their religion. Those that did were protected by them. They didn't have the truth, but what they had was the name our Holy Father and the name of Jesus Christ and his name was spread throughout the earth. This is Gods way. Check it out with Matthew 24

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man decieve you.

5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ and shall decieve many.

Then it goes on to correspond with the Red, Black & Pale horse in Rev.

The White Horse is not the Antichrist (False Prophet), because he comes in later riding the Pale Horse.
 
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1st seal/horse rider: Jesus
2nd seal/horse rider: Muhammud

3rd seal happening now

6th seal rapture
7th tribulation
 
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no, because the whore was there in the days of the egytian empire;
the whore is sitting on the 7heads(the 7empires)
1: egypt. 2:syria. 3:babylon. 4:medo persia. 5:greece. 6:rome. 7:new rome, british emp. its ruling now.(all english speaking nations) the 8th will come out of the 7th.
the 7th transformed into the one world order. it is coming soon.the false prophet will take control.(dont call him the anti christ, because it is not accurate) rev.19:20.
every person that does not believe in christ is an antichrist. the false prophet will declaire himself god.

''wakeup''.
WAKEUP NICE 1 BROTHER. GOD BLESS YOUR HEART BROTHER. YOUR SOOO RIGHT. I DELIBERATELY SAID ROME FOR THIS PURPOSE. THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT WAS AROUND SINCE HEAVEN WE'RE IT OPOSED GOD WORD. MICHEAL KICKED IT OUT. IT ENTERD THE SERPENT .THE SERPENT APPROUCHED EVE. SHE RECEIVED HIS SEED CAIN. THE BIBLE SAYS HE WAS OF THE WICKED ONE. THAT SPIRIT WAS RELEASED THROUGH ADAMS LINEAGE AND CAINS CAUSE ADAM BROKE THE WORD WITH EVE, HE RECEIVED HER TO HIS BOSOM.IT WAS THAT SPIRIT MANIFESTING IN DOES PEOPLE BEFORE THE FLOOD.IT CROSSED OVER THROUGH THE WOMEN .REMEMBER THAT SCRIPTURE IN SIN DID MY MOTHER CONCIEVE ME? MANIFESTED AT TOWER BABEL . CAUSED THE PATRIARCH TO SELL OUT THEIR BROTHER JOSEPH CAUSE OF THEIR JELOUSY.ENDED UP IN EGYPT, AS YOU HAVE STATED.CAUSE ITS SCRIPTUAL.E.T.C. GOD BLESS YOU MY PRECIOUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BROTHER. KEEP BLASTING FOR OUR LORDAND SAVIOUR.
 
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Sorry, but Revelation was written TO 1st century Christians under Roman persecution. The events were to shortly come to pass in reference to their time. They were already in the kingdom and the tribulation at the time of writing. The overwhelming majority of the book has LONG since been fulfilled. The 8th head which was judged was Emperor Domition. Only the Great White throne judgment and eternity essentially remain. The book is mostly historical from our vantage point.
Amen. There is no need for you to see your pastor. The person who said that was being misled. There is nothing at all wrong in the partial preterist view of Revelation. Part or most of Revelation has already been fulfilled. Much of it refers only to Christians in the 1st century; other parts of it are for all Christians of all times; and all of the book is a message to all Christians of all times. Take care. In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington
 
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if this gospel be hid ,its hid from those who are lost. all the ELECT WILL SEE IT .
 
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LORD OPEN HIS EYES. PLEASE