Is Spiritual Warfare Occult?

[giantone]

Shes right God is very upset with the church. And he's cleaning house. He's calling the church to repent and to wake up and stop pretending like it knows it all. Most of the church can't see, can't hear but oh boy it knows all there is to know. Can't tell the church anything cause they already know it all. The main problem isn't all the unsaved lost souls going to hell it's the so called church who will be knocking at the door wanting to know why they can't get in. And God will say I never you. If you can't hear God you better figure out why. If your mad at someone you better let it go. Times running out and more of the self thought Christian are on there way to hell and haven't a clue. Try to tell them about a demon and they get all freaked out. Lord have mercy.

I don't disagree with the statement that God isn't happy with the church, I just disagree with why. Some people know what they should be doing and aren't, then there are others who haven't a clue and God isn't as angry at them. The experiences I've had cause me to be much more cautious about letting everyone and everything in. As well as making demonic warfare into rocket sconce or something bigger than what it needs to be.

(I didn't write what I wrote below to you, it pertains to the flavor or scheme of what sometimes is a result of focusing too much on an experience and not enough grounding in the Word and on what God has already did for us that He doesn't need to do again)

I am a child of God, I am not a beggar barely getting by forced to feed chained up under someone else's table with my thumbs cut off groveling on the floor looking for scraps from the spiritually superior. I didn't almost get fixed from this or that experience waiting for another fantastic experience to almost get me by. I either believe and rely on God or I believe someone else will bring me along so I can pick up what falls off the bottom of there shoes for nourishment to barely get me by until next time.

we need to be balanced.

 

[paulnsilas]

SERIOUSLY!!!!???!!! what do they have to do with Christ's church, wolves devour HIS SHEEP, false prophets and pretenders STEAL HIS CHILDREN!!!

They work for the forces of darkness that the CHILDREN OF GOD are at war with and only a wolf would speak as you do and lull people into false security.

yawn.
I was responding to the following UNBIBLICAL but typical Charismatic rant against the Church and of how God "supposedly" feels about the redeemed He His sent His Son to purchase with His Blood.

You demonbusters love to cast aspersions and threaten His Church, but she is beautiful and accepted in The Beloved, whether you girls like it or not. You might have to find another hobby.

Not surprisingly you would consider me a wolf since i've upset your applecart i guess - by doing the very thing you say i'm not doing: watching out for false prophets and testing the spirits (who get quite irate and vindictive when called upon apparently)

Shes right God is very upset with the church. And he's cleaning house. He's calling the church to repent and to wake up and stop pretending like it knows it all. Most of the church can't see, can't hear but oh boy it knows all there is to know. Can't tell the church anything cause they already know it all. The main problem isn't all the unsaved lost souls going to hell it's the so called church who will be knocking at the door wanting to know why they can't get in. And God will say I never you. If you can't hear God you better figure out why. If your mad at someone you better let it go. Times running out and more of the self thought Christian are on there way to hell and haven't a clue. Try to tell them about a demon and they get all freaked out. Lord have mercy.

by you own words and judgments you have already spoken against yourself but I do not judge you JESUS does, and I do not testify against you YOUR WORDS do.

YOU are a COMPLACENT daughter. HEAR GOD"S REBUKE.

Isaiah 32: 9-11

" Rise up, you women who are at ease
Hear my voice;
You complacent daughters,
Give ear to my speech.
In a year and some days
You will be troubled , you complacent women;
For the vintage will fail,
the gathering will not come
Tremble, you women who are at ease;
Be troubled, you complacent ones;
Strip yourselves make yourselves bare.
And gird sackcloth on your waists."

Look down your nose at me with your lofty glances and call me a false prophetess but know GOD will judge you for your words and your heart.

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God hears my prayers. For HE SAVES those who do HIS WILL and love HIS WORDS and has HIS SPIRIT residing inside them through HIS GRACE.

Hear God's rebuke?
YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING FOR THE GOD I KNOW.

I do not recognize your shepherd's voice.

 

[paulnsilas]

I refuse to listen to the demons:

One thing i notice with certain people - they have a very unhealthy preoccupation with the demonic realm.

Interesting.

 

[paulnsilas]

I don't disagree with the statement that God isn't happy with the church, I just disagree with why. Some people know what they should be doing and aren't, then there are others who haven't a clue and God isn't as angry at them. The experiences I've had cause me to be much more cautious about letting everyone and everything in. As well as making demonic warfare into rocket sconce or something bigger than what it needs to be.

(I didn't write what I wrote below to you, it pertains to the flavor or scheme of what sometimes is a result of focusing too much on an experience and not enough grounding in the Word and on what God has already did for us that He doesn't need to do again)

I am a child of God, I am not a beggar barely getting by forced to feed chained up under someone else's table with my thumbs cut off groveling on the floor looking for scraps from the spiritually superior. I didn't almost get fixed from this or that experience waiting for another fantastic experience to almost get me by. I either believe and rely on God or I believe someone else will bring me along so I can pick up what falls off the bottom of there shoes for nourishment to barely get me by until next time.

we need to be balanced.

Hello Giant.
When after wandering away and crying to go home, when i returned home to my Father, He placed a ring on my finger; clothed me in a new robe; placed new sandals on my feet and prepared a feast for me.

I do not know who these people are that continue to engage the "forces of darkness" as if that were our battle.

Our task is to love our Lord and carry the Good News to the lost and bring them Home to Father also. All this nonsense that Jesus is enraged with His purchased bride is bordering on blasphemy.

The battle belongs to The Lord and Christ is KING.

If we watch out for false teachers/prophets and wolves, we'll do well.

 

[EverlastingChange]

Shes right God is very upset with the church. And he's cleaning house. He's calling the church to repent and to wake up and stop pretending like it knows it all. Most of the church can't see, can't hear but oh boy it knows all there is to know. Can't tell the church anything cause they already know it all. The main problem isn't all the unsaved lost souls going to hell it's the so called church who will be knocking at the door wanting to know why they can't get in. And God will say I never you. If you can't hear God you better figure out why. If your mad at someone you better let it go. Times running out and more of the self thought Christian are on there way to hell and haven't a clue. Try to tell them about a demon and they get all freaked out. Lord have mercy.

You just saved me from saying anything! I agree very much with what you just said. Rare to find someone so bold yet truthful. Hold onto that.

 

[AnandaHya]

Hello Giant.
When after wandering away and crying to go home, when i returned home to my Father, He placed a ring on my finger; clothed me in a new robe; placed new sandals on my feet and prepared a feast for me.

I do not know who these people are that continue to engage the "forces of darkness" as if that were our battle.

Our task is to love our Lord and carry the Good News to the lost and bring them Home to Father also. All this nonsense that Jesus is enraged with His purchased bride is bordering on blasphemy.

The battle belongs to The Lord and Christ is KING.

If we watch out for false teachers/prophets and wolves, we'll do well.

and if a child in YOUR church, came and told you that they saw a demon and named the associate pastor would you tell them they were imagining things?

If you found out later that child and many others were molested by said associate pastor would you continue to deny the problem or blame the child for "tempting" him?

Stay blind. don't heed the warnings.

I'm not angry, just sad that you would fall for Satan's lies.

we are God's hands and feet and it is OUR JOB to protect the sheep.

five of the brides were not allowed into the house because they lack the oil and had to go buy more, perhaps you should buy some more oil. for I have yet to see your flame or any good fruit.

unless you have something to aid this thread why don't you run along and actually PRACTICE what you supposedly believe and go and PRAY with some people in the prayer request forum eEEEHHH??? novel idea, actually praying with people. hmmm.

 

[AnandaHya]

Humility Cures Worldliness
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.
Do Not Judge a Brother


11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one Lawgiver,[d] who is able to save and to destroy. Who[e] are you to judge another?[f

Hebrews 12:5-11 (New King James Version)

5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:


“ My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6 For whom the LORD loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”[a]

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

 

[endofallfears]

Christ is the head of the body, the church. If every Christian will make themselves responsible to look to Him, instead of watching each other, the church as a whole would be a vessel of love.

 

[AnandaHya]

Christ is the head of the body, the church. If every Christian will make themselves responsible to look to Him, instead of watching each other, the church as a whole would be a vessel of love.

Amen we have enough battles with darkness in order to spread the good news to the people who need to hear of Jesus and His salvation we do not need to watch our backs to see if one of the supposed brethren will stab us.

DO all things, SPEAK all things out of the LOVE that resides inside you, through the grace and gift of the Holy Spirit, our one True comforter. Look to God and follow the VOICE OF TRUTH!

I am but a quickly fading flower, do not waste time arguing it is the midnight hour and THE BRIDEGROOM IS COMING!!

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