Does GOD Talk To You?

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Coaster

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I have two questions:

Does GOD Talk To You?

And it GOD told you to kill somebody would you do it?

I'm asking because my friend told me that he is on a mission from GOD to kill certain people whom I won't mention by affiliation.

I'm wondering if it would be disingenuous to not do GODs bidding. My friend asked me, "what would Abraham do in my situation?"

Hes right, Abraham would kill if GOD asks him to, that is why I am afraid my friend is going to actually commit murder. Should I let him? Should I stop him from doing what GOD wants? Who am I to say something against the almighty?
 
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The Lord speaks to all of us by placing thoughts into our minds. He doesn’t tell us to break his commandments, though. People who say God wants them to murder people are dangerous.
 
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Keep in mind that God did not have Abraham kill his son.
 
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Coaster

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resurrection33 said:
The Lord speaks to all of us by placing thoughts into our minds. He doesn’t tell us to break his commandments, though. People who say God wants them to murder people are dangerous.
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So was Abraham dangerous since GOD wanted him to kill his son? Or was that acceptable since it was before the commandments?
 
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carpetmanswife

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Your friend needs help.
 
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resurrection33 said:
Keep in mind that God did not have Abraham kill his son.
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Yes he didn't have to, be he was about to. My friend thinks that right as he is about to kill for GOD, GOD will provide some alternative right after GOD sees that my friend is serious about killing in the name of.
 
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carpetmanswife said:
Your friend needs help.
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That's apparent to me too. But my friend thinks that GOD has asked many people to kill in GODs name. He thinks that if he doesn't do what GOD wants, then he is not obedient enough. I think he thinks its a test just like with Abraham.
 
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Coaster

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He has pointed to many passages in the bible where GOD instructs humans to kill for the greater good. He asked me, "if you lived back then, and GOD asked you to do this, would you do it?" How can I say no? Why wouldn't I do what GOD wants? For example we discussed
Numbers 15:32-36

32And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 33And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
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If I was there with Moses back then, I would have participated in the stoning of the man collecting sticks. Would you have too?
 
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Hebrews 11:17 *By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
18 *Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
19 *Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.


Abraham was a prophet, and He saw the beginning from the end, he knew that even if God told him to kill his miracle son the one who was born from a 90 something year old woman and Abraham that God would raise him from the dead, it wasn't exactly murder,

I'm sure Abraham saw the vision of him going up with Issac tied to the pile of wood and Issac returning with him after the sacrifice down the hill alive, but it didn't go the way Abraham assumed. And you know what happens when you assume something, you make an ass out of you and me. just a little humor.

You need to stop your crazy friend, Satan is the one that kills,steels and destroys.
 
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carpetmanswife

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you need a youth leader or pastor to talk to your friend, he cant be allowed to keep pondering thoughts like this.
 
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AnandaHya

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THAT"S NOT GOD of the Bible!

Jesus told us to bless those who curse us and "Vengeance is Mine" saith the Lord.

which means if God wanted them dead they would be dead. no need for your friend to do it.

Sound's like Lucifer talking to your friend and saying he's God again. Might want to get him to a priest or a psychologist. Either way pray for him and show him some scripture. Start with this one if you like.

Matthew 5:43-48 (New King James Version)

Love Your Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren[c] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[d] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.


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Luke 6:27-36 (New King James Version)

Love Your Enemies


27 “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. 29 To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back. 31 And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise.
32 “But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35 But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. 36 Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

does that sound like a God that would ask you to murder someone?
 
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Yes I see what you guys are saying. Abraham was special indeed. But what if you were there with Moses, would you have stoned that man collecting sticks as GOD instructed?
 
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Coaster said:
He has pointed to many passages in the bible where GOD instructs humans to kill for the greater good. He asked me, "if you lived back then, and GOD asked you to do this, would you do it?" How can I say no? Why wouldn't I do what GOD wants? For example we discussed

If I was there with Moses back then, I would have participated in the stoning of the man collecting sticks. Would you have too?
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This passage you mentioned picking up sticks, what happened was this guy saw God parting the red sea first hand, he saw God bring water from the rock, not to mention all the miracles in Egypt and then after all that God bending over backwards he decided to spit in God's face and disregard God's words.

What would have happened if no one stoned him to death would be others who saw God's mighty power first hand would say whats the point and before long all of God's people would have been assimilated into the world and God's people would cease to exist.

If someone picked up sticks hundreds of years latter, it wouldn't be the same sin because they wouldn't have seen firsthand God's mighty hand at work. it wouldn't be the sin of spitting right in God's face.

And yes, I would have stoned him.
 
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How do you know this man collecting stick saw all of these miracles you speak of? From what I gather you would have killed this man with stones back then if GOD told you to. But you wouldn't kill a man for disobeying GOD today because you think GOD doesn't do blatant miracles anymore?
 
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Coaster said:
He has pointed to many passages in the bible where GOD instructs humans to kill for the greater good. He asked me, "if you lived back then, and GOD asked you to do this, would you do it?" How can I say no? Why wouldn't I do what GOD wants? For example we discussed

If I was there with Moses back then, I would have participated in the stoning of the man collecting sticks. Would you have too?
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have you heard of the NEW Covenant that Jesus came and brought us? read Paul's letter to Romans.

Jesus died on the cross and fulfilled all Moses law and offer His life as a perfect sacrifice for our sins so that we no longer have to offer blood sacrifices and gave the world a NEW covenant sealed by the gift of the Holy Spirit who lives inside our hearts so that we are inwardly circumcised.

Seriously read your Bible and pray for your friend.

Dear Lord please be merciful and strengthen our shield of faith, give us the gift of wisdom and discernment and the words to say to touch the lives of those lost to the illusions and the lies of the Enemy. Lord please be merciful and send your grace to all who are in need, give them the eyes to see and the ears to hear Your Truth and the heart and mind to seek knowledge of Your truth found in the pages of the Holy Bible. In Jesus name we pray, amen.
 
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NoahsMom

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God tells me to keep my pie hole shut all the time........
 
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AnandaHya

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Coaster said:
How do you know this man collecting stick saw all of these miracles you speak of? From what I gather you would have killed this man with stones back then if GOD told you to. But you wouldn't kill a man for disobeying GOD today because you think GOD doesn't do blatant miracles anymore?
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i wouldn't have stoned him, I would have asked God why and if He punished me for questioning Him I would have taken it, because I believe that God is a just and loving God and the Bible says we are His children. Who would punish their kids for asking a simple question out of compassion for the man?

I don't think obedience to a voice claiming to be God should be blind. Jesus told us to TEST all spirits. and judge by their fruits.

Galatians 5:19-23 (New King James Version)

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[a] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
 
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Coaster

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So with the new convenant we don't have to kill for GOD anymore? So I should tell my friend that only people back then should kill for GOD and now in the present time if GOD told you to kill someone you shouldn't?
 
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Coaster said:
How do you know this man collecting stick saw all of these miracles you speak of? From what I gather you would have killed this man with stones back then if GOD told you to. But you wouldn't kill a man for disobeying GOD today because you think GOD doesn't do blatant miracles anymore?
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not on the order of shifting an entire sea at a command or opening the earth up on command, no I haven't seen that lately.
 
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