Conflicting Thoughts & Feelings About a Brother In Christ

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Fire7

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Wow, this is going to be so embarrassing, and I hope he doesn't come to this forum, but I'm just venting right now, so you don't have to read this. I obviously am posting for people to read, but I know that people might get tired of me talking about this subject. Forgive me; I'm sorry if this seems repetitive.

To be completely honest with you, I was terrified of posting this in a Christian forum of all places, because I knew I would probably be threatened with hellfire and reminded that I'm in sin. I posted this in other forum societies, but I think that if I want to be a genuine Christian, why shouldn't I be able to be honest with other people of the same faith? It's like no matter where I go, spiritual, psychological...and other circles, I don't fear being judged, but I know whenever I come to a Christian society, I will be condemned. But I'd rather be a condemned truth teller than an accepted liar. With that said, if I get one genuine response, this would have been worth posting. So here is my issue:

I have joined this bible study at my college - the Christian club. I think it is a G-d-send. Being a Christian, I have found that it can be lonely and isolating - feeling like you're the only person who is into the bible and serious about the things of G-d. I have already learned some things in the few weeks I've been in the club. I have met some cool people, and it's refreshing to see other (regular) guys who are passionate about G-d.

One of my main goals and reasons for joining is because I wanted a personal bible study partner. By chance, I did happen to meet one of the brothers who is just as passionate as I am. So I told him about my goal and he is on board to be my partner.

Here comes the conflicting part. The first time I saw this guy (before I knew him) I thought that he was a rather attractive guy! I've found out that he is 19y/o (9 years younger than me), but I personally find him very attractive! even more now that I have gotten to experience his awesome mind and personality. We have discussed several biblical subjects. He has alluded to homosexuality, although we didn't go in depth on the discussion. So I know what his stance is; he's against it.

I highly doubt that he has had any inclination that I am homosexual. At least if he has, he hasn't shown that it bothers him. We have exchanged a few texts and conversed via phone briefly. He's been very cool and warm to me, and I find him to be such a very cool person! However, I am now considering backing out of my goal and cutting him off all together, because I am not only finding him cool, but adorable as well. Although I see him as a buddy, another part of me is feeling him romantically. I mean when I say feeling him, I'm going to bed imagining my pillow is him and waking up in the middle of the night fantasizing about him (so embarrassing to admit this). I am becoming infatuated with him. Not that I'm obsessed. I just have a massive crush on him. I've only known the guy for a couple of weeks, and I'm already starting to feel jealous if I see him talking to or walking with or by a female.

So I'm thinking it would be irresponsible on my part to break partnership with him, because we've already established a plan. And of course we don't have any obligations and staying in contact is not something we have to do (I have been the one to initiate the texts messages anyway), but I am personally worried about becoming too attached to him, because I know that something will happen (a non-response to a message, the learning of a girlfriend or fiance', another friend who gets more attention, etc...) that will eventually cause me to feel a sense of abandonment and rejection down the road, and I don't know how I will react to it. But I know it will be painful.

Just the fact that I have these thoughts/feelings conflicts everything that our relationship would be about. I would be such a hypocrite to be reading the bible with him while thinking of making love to him. That doesn't even make sense - hence my conflicting feelings.
 

Adrianv125

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First of all friend, you are not a Christian. Christian's don't practice sin, and homosexuality is a sin period. I will not enter into argument with you about genetic or nurture causes on sexual orientation. You deliberately choose to mate with males. I will get kind of graphic, but during intercourse it is flesh with flesh, the difference between male to male (or female to female) and female to male is that the female is the genetic and in nature the only compatible partner of males and vice versa, women's genitals are designed for men's and vice versa. sodomy with males, or any other species is going outside the natural purpose of the human body.
 
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Dece81

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Ok, I am not technically a Christian, I am in the "exploring and studying" phase. So I'm not going to be all hell fire on you for your personal decisions (not to mention I am a total fruitfly..but thats besides the point) But 2 things I see here. If he is against homosexuality...give it up. Clearly you will hit a wall there. Also, the age difference is too huge...trust me on this. Otherwise, good luck you and dont take too harshly what people are going to say. I'm sure you are a genuine and caring person even if your choices may conflict with your beliefs.

Ignorance breeds fear.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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First of all friend, you are not a Christian. Christian's don't practice sin, and homosexuality is a sin period. I will not enter into argument with you about genetic or nurture causes on sexual orientation. You deliberately choose to mate with males. I will get kind of graphic, but during intercourse it is flesh with flesh, the difference between male to male (or female to female) and female to male is that the female is the genetic and in nature the only compatible partner of males and vice versa, women's genitals are designed for men's and vice versa. sodomy with males, or any other species is going outside the natural purpose of the human body.
Right so i dont know what genitals have to do with what he's asking... but my opinion is that you should just cut all contact off. He isnt a homosexual, and you are. The chances of him turning into one are one in one million. So your barkin up the wrong tree and wastin a whole lotta time in the process.
 
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AllCoolNicknamesWereTaken

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Well, I have never had any homosexual tendencies (I like women a whole lot), but that was an intriguing post. Frankly, i didn't come in expecting any of that.

Now, I won't go into the homosexuality aspect of things, but rather, into the temptation aspect. If someone is truly genuine about wanting to find what the Bible is all about, then he/she should not do so one-on-one with someone of the gender they are attracted to. I personally couldn't see myself having one-on-one Bible study with a female for the simple fact that, for the most part, sharing Bible study implies sharing personal experiences, existing problems, etc. This type of atmosphere creates a bond between people, and sometimes that bond can be taken to levels which weren't originally planned for.

Now, for single people, this might be a blessing, of course! However, it still kind of defeats the purpose in some way as then the Bible study turns more into a date than, well, studying the Bible, really.

Hence, in my opinion, Bible study should be done in groups whenever possible, or alone. I'm simplifying my explanation here, but it is for the same reasons that I don't think it a good idea for pastors to meet alone with women, etc etc etc. Try to uproot temptation whenever possible.
 
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Dece81

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Well, I have never had any homosexual tendencies (I like women a whole lot), but that was an intriguing post. Frankly, i didn't come in expecting any of that.

Now, I won't go into the homosexuality aspect of things, but rather, into the temptation aspect. If someone is truly genuine about wanting to find what the Bible is all about, then he/she should not do so one-on-one with someone of the gender they are attracted to. I personally couldn't see myself having one-on-one Bible study with a female for the simple fact that, for the most part, sharing Bible study implies sharing personal experiences, existing problems, etc. This type of atmosphere creates a bond between people, and sometimes that bond can be taken to levels which weren't originally planned for.

Now, for single people, this might be a blessing, of course! However, it still kind of defeats the purpose in some way as then the Bible study turns more into a date than, well, studying the Bible, really.

Hence, in my opinion, Bible study should be done in groups whenever possible, or alone. I'm simplifying my explanation here, but it is for the same reasons that I don't think it a good idea for pastors to meet alone with women, etc etc etc.
Whats that? Bible study and wine??? awesome!
 
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AllCoolNicknamesWereTaken

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Heh.

That got a chuckle out of me.
 

Adrianv125

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I don't need to bet

1 John 3:9 (New King James Version)

9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
 
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Dece81

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I don't need to bet

1 John 3:9 (New King James Version)

9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
EVERYBODY...sins...
 
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AllCoolNicknamesWereTaken

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Adrian, everyone sins. That's afact: "For ALL have siinned, and fall short of the glory of God"

That includes you, me, him, her, everyone.

Salvation is not about whether we sin or not, because we all do, but what we are willing to do about it. And there's nothing we can do about it other than accept Jesus into our hearts. Then he begins renovating us. Sanctification is a lifelong process. We don't become perfect here, but he helps us to strive towards that goal.

Sanctification is not about where you're standing, but where you're headed. This is what the Pharisees couldn't understand, and why they condemned people while Jesus tried to save them instead (like Mary Magdalene, for instance).
 
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nomnomnom

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Hey Fire. Its awesome that you're pursuing God's Word more. It sounds to me, though, like you're using the argument "my obligation is to stay in this partnership because i made an obligation" as a justification to remain close to this guy bc its what your flesh wants. And thats so common. I know I've done it too. We rationalize our sin to make it ok. Its so hard not to! But sometimes we just need someone to point it out.

I think you probably know that its best for you to not spend more time with this guy bc its pulling you into your pet sin. I know how hard thats going to be, but substitute the time you've been spending with him with time with God. God will fulfill you, and He'll help you make the right decision =]
 
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AllCoolNicknamesWereTaken

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I don't practice sin
Congratulations then, you do well.

"Now let him who thinks he stand take heed lest he fall."

All that's left for you to do is be careful. Keep the faith.
 

Adrianv125

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I never said I was perfect, all I said was I don't give in to the pleasures of the flesh, AKA practicing sin.


Galatians 5:16 (New King James Version)

Walking in the Spirit
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
 
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Dece81

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I never said I was perfect, all I said was I don't give in to the pleasures of the flesh, AKA practicing sin.


Galatians 5:16 (New King James Version)

Walking in the Spirit
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
Actually you said you don't practice sin, not that you don't have sex.
 

Adrianv125

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The flesh desires to pride itself, to seek vengeance, to be short in anger, to gratify itself, to feel pleasure, to give in to drugs and many other things. I seek the Holy Spirit's strength to keep me away from these things, and He does.
 

Adrianv125

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1 John 1:6 (New King James Version)

6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.