Spiritual trips to heaven and/or hell

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Gabriel777

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I have seen lately some people that supposedly die and they go to hell and whatnot and see famous people like Michael Jackson or someone from the Rolling Stones there and demons that look like this action figure or whatever. Or they go to heaven and see bright colors and huge houses and streets of gold. Then they ''come back'' to their body and give their testimony. I've seen several of these testimonies and something is fishy about all of them. To me it sounds like a perfect scam to get rich. Do you think is this a scam or what? According to my bible the last person to go to both places was Jesus.
 
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NoahsMom

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It makes me kinda leary....specially if they are talkin bout seein micheal jackson, or old dude from rollin stones. Id be EXTREMELY leary if they are pluggin it for money.
 
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MaggieMye

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It's not any different than "Mary" appearing everywhere. It is a tactic of the devil to deceive. There are a few that have gone to heaven....and hell, but those that have gone to heaven will not be going to see anyone BUT Jesus! Going to heaven is a ENCOUNTER with God, not Michael Jackston, et al.
Know why? Because even in the UNlikely event that Jackson, or the Stones guy and others did repent before their death and are bound for heaven, NOT ONE person will see heaven until Christ returns TO GET US ALL.

So...if people would just use their thinkers and THINK about the ILlogic-ness of what these people are claiming, the could easily see that it is either sham or a convincing (to the ignorant) tactic of the devil.
I mean, really....READ THE BOOK!
Maggie
 
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dmdave17

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or someone from the Rolling Stones
I know you are just using examples but this would be doubly suspicious since, to the best of my knowledge, all of the Rolling Stones are still alive. However, you might be able to convince me that some of them are demons incarnate lol :) . (That was a joke! I certainly don't want to get sued.)

I only heard one story like that, that had a ring of truth to it. A man told of a near death experience when he was a teenager, where he was judged by a loving being (he could feel the great love), sent to hell, and cried out to Jesus to save him. He claimed that Jesus came to him and took him in His arms, and was rescuing him, when he woke up. Ironically, this man became a Roman Catholic priest and took a vow of poverty, so, so much for the financial gain angle.

I believe that most people who claim to have had near death experiences probably believe they are true. I think it is modern day media that blows these things out of proportion, trying mostly, I believe to debunk them. The argument concerning just when we are going to Heaven I will leave to more astute minds than my own, but wouldn't it be ironic if these stories caused even a few souls to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? It seems to me that we can never totally escape God's irony.
 
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I believe the bible teaches that dead people are dead, and will remain so until either the rapture or one of the two upcoming resurrections.

Therefore, near-death experiences where people claim to see heaven or hell are false.

The only one to have beaten death so far is Jesus Christ.
 
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MaggieMye

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Here's one for ya: When the UNSAVED have a near-death experience and 'see the light' it is a deception! Satan comes AS an angel of light. If the person opts to go TO the light, they die and go to hell because they have not yet received Christ as their Savior.



Yeah......

Maggie
 
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I do not believe they went to heaven or hell and saw a vivid description of it and then came back.

The only way that can happen is if God wants to give us a description of heaven or hell,by someone in spirit visiting there,which it would be in the Bible,and if not in the Bible,then God would not relate it later.

God did give us a description of heaven by John,and told us the description of hell without sending someone there in spirit to record it,and Jesus did not go there to give us a description of it,but to conquer hell,and we already know the description of hell before Jesus went there.
 

pickles

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I would test all that make this claim in Jesus Christ is Lord.
There are only a few times this is spoken to in scripture.
Paul spoke of someone that was brought to the third heaven.
John spoke to this in revalation.
Look to the scriptures and trust in Jesus.

God bless.
pickles