Why did God make satan?

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selenah

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#1
Doesn't that make God the author of sin?
 

Adrianv125

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God made all angels and creatures with a free will.
He didn't create evil, He created laws and He created people and angels and creatures to choose to love.
Love is a choice, it's an action, not just a feeling.
Lucifer used to serve God, until the day that he wanted to be worshiped and was cast down from heaven.
God created adam and eve and gave them a law, which was to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil because they would die.
They knew the consequence which was death, but they still did it. Satan only acted as the one who convinced eve because she forgot
about what God had said, she chose to listen to the serpent and chose to eat of the fruit.
In essence, it is adam and eve who brought about all the evil you see here on earth.
They were in charge of all the earth, but the day they ate of the fruit sin entered into the world.
So, final conclusion. God created the possibility to sin, the possibility to choose evil or the possibility to choose good. If you refuse to do wrong, then you love God..
 
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_Centurion_

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#3
Smells like a cop out, if God created everything and is all powerful, ultimatly he is fully responsable. Thems are the rules, Im sure given his alledged nature, Gods "man enough" to shoulder his responsabilities and moral enough to recognise them.

God made all angels and creatures with a free will.
He didn't create evil, He created laws and He created people and angels and creatures to choose to love.
Love is a choice, it's an action, not just a feeling.
Lucifer used to serve God, until the day that he wanted to be worshiped and was cast down from heaven.
God created adam and eve and gave them a law, which was to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil because they would die.
They knew the consequence which was death, but they still did it. Satan only acted as the one who convinced eve because she forgot
about what God had said, she chose to listen to the serpent and chose to eat of the fruit.
In essence, it is adam and eve who brought about all the evil you see here on earth.
They were in charge of all the earth, but the day they ate of the fruit sin entered into the world.
So, final conclusion. God created the possibility to sin, the possibility to choose evil or the possibility to choose good. If you refuse to do wrong, then you love God..
 

Adrianv125

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#4
what are you really trying to say centurion?
 

Adrianv125

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God is responsible for creating the possibility for all to choose evil or good. Man is responsible to choose evil or good. Enough said.
 
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_Centurion_

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#7
mmmkay, guess I'll make porn, knowing that its not my problem if others fall into sexual imporprity, then. Stellar arguement.

God is responsible for creating the possibility for all to choose evil or good. Man is responsible to choose evil or good. Enough said.
 

Adrianv125

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mmmkay, guess I'll make porn, knowing that its not my problem if others fall into sexual imporprity, then. Stellar arguement.
umm, I really don't know what you are trying to say. But there's nothing to argue about.
 
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_Centurion_

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#9
There are none so blind as those who will not see, I guess. And your quite correct, in that Im not trying to argue with you, having read several of your other posts I know the futility of that endevour.

umm, I really don't know what you are trying to say. But there's nothing to argue about.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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#12
Doesn't that make God the author of sin?
He was a angel of God first, but then he had sin come into his heart and thought he could be God. And then he was shot out like lightning out of heaven.

God gave him a free will just like us, choose to be with God or leave God. God gave him a choice while being existed. So it was devils fault for sinning not God.
 
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_Centurion_

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#13
Still, not addressing the point that as ultimatly powerful and the creator of ALL things, that ultimatly hes responsabable for all things. This is just how morality works, if you create the circumstance you have to shoulder the respopnsability.

He was a angel of God first, but then he had sin come into his heart and thought he could be God. And then he was shot out like lightning out of heaven.

God gave him a free will just like us, choose to be with God or leave God. God gave him a choice while being existed. So it was devils fault for sinning not God.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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#14
What about parents? They tell you somehing good you should do and you do the opposite, and u be put in jail. Who's fault is it? The one who did not listen to the parent not the parent themselves, for the parent is tying to keep bad from happening not bring it up.
 
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Dece81

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#15
My question is, if God made us all, and made us in his image then he made our brains as well. If he made our brains then he made some people knowing they would not end up believing them and therefore essentially creating them specifically to go to Hell...since apparently all non believers go to hell.

How can you be in control of all, and NOT be responsible for all.
 
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_Centurion_

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#16
Your sidestepping my point, whereas the parents did have a hand in the creation of the kid, they are not respopnsable for the rest of the world, or its influences on the child in question. However, the father to which your comparing these hypothetical parents DID create everything. Maybe if in your example the parents were producing meth and telling there child to not do drugs, only to have him arrested for possesion, youd be closer to the mark of addressing the point Im makng.

What about parents? They tell you somehing good you should do and you do the opposite, and u be put in jail. Who's fault is it? The one who did not listen to the parent not the parent themselves, for the parent is tying to keep bad from happening not bring it up.
 
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It does not make God the author of sin,for the Bible says that Lucifer was made perfect in his ways,until iniquity was found in him,so it was Lucifer who made the choice to do rebel,and God made him without sin.

The Bible says that God made man upright,to do right,but they sought out many inventions,their own devices.

God gave the angels a choice and some rebelled,but God made them to do good and the rebellious angels started that way to do good.
 
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_Centurion_

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#18
Thats why I quoted you :). But not to you, per say, I was more addressing what you said.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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#19
Think how you want, but the world has it's own choice not God telling them to sin.
 
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_Centurion_

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#20
What she said.

My question is, if God made us all, and made us in his image then he made our brains as well. If he made our brains then he made some people knowing they would not end up believing them and therefore essentially creating them specifically to go to Hell...since apparently all non believers go to hell.

How can you be in control of all, and NOT be responsible for all.