I look at so many other Christians and sometimes they are just plane nasty to each other. They act so....childish with their "oh yeah, well blah blah blah" type attitude. I understand if they disagree with someone their trying to correct the person, but the way it's done is so sarcastic and nasty. They act like people who disagree with them are a bunch of stupid idiots instead of someone who is misguided. It's like bicker bicker bicker "you're wrong no you're wrong I'm right you're stupid you don't know what you're talking about."
this is the internet.
merely because an internet forum has the word CHRISTIAN in it, does not mean everyone posting at that forum is a Christian.
the OP: Re:
Why are Christians so nasty to each other when they have different views?
doesn't allow for the reality that many who claim to be Christians simply are not, and so the issue taken at times with some of those "different views" can mean the difference between sound doctrine and dangerous heresy.
such an unpopular word today.
how do we help someone who is "misguided" if they claim the authority for their position comes from The Almighty Himself? God TOLD them personally.
and what do we do about the unsupecting people who listen to and believe that "prophet" or "apostle", for fear of blaspheming or "greiving" the Spirit by testing or questioning that person? do we just leave them to it? say AMEN?
if the absence of "bickering" and sarcasm indicates "Christian" unity, what role does a correct understanding of, at the very least, the basics of the true Christian faith play?
what about sound doctrine? what about The Authority of Scripture?
does political correctness indicate deep spirituality?
i wonder if, while we certainly will answer for being rude, will we not ALSO answer for saying AMEN to false doctrines and false prophets? for giving them the best seats, allowing them to hijack entire flocks? its happening today. right now. its been happening for a long time.
a case in point: if anyone who has the courage to consider the following, and if they can in fact determine the veracity of cessationism in Scripture - (as well as using all the resources of the Historical Church from the early church fathers through the ages to today's theologians - and take the time to actually research certain movements)....what should be the position regarding people who claim personal, extra-biblical/canonical revelation? whether that person is a Pope or Modern Day Apostle?
if cessationism is proven to be true, it makes the others deceived, and deceiving.
The Third Wave is a satanic device to usurp the authority of the traditional church government, usurp and relegate the Authority of Scripture to second place under the NEW APOSTOLIC RESTORATION.
they injected this leaven in stages via revived montanism.
Neo-Montanism is not Christianity.
Cessationists View Audio
In Christian theology, cessationism is the view that the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as tongues, prophecy and healing, ceased being practiced early on in Church history. Cessationists usually believe the miraculous gifts were given only for the foundation of the Church, during the time between the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, c. AD 33 (see Acts 2) and the fulfillment of God's purposes in history, usually identified as either the completion of the last book of the New Testament or the death of the last Apostle.
Cessationists are divided into four main groups:
Concentric Cessationists believe that the miraculous gifts have indeed ceased in the mainstream church and evangelized areas, but appear in unreached areas as an aid to spreading the Gospel (Luther and Calvin, though they were somewhat inconsistent in this position).
Classical cessationists assert that the "sign gifts" such as prophecy, healing and speaking in tongues ceased with the apostles and the finishing of the canon of Scripture. They only served as launching pads for the spreading of the Gospel; as affirmations of God's revelation. However, these cessationists do believe that God still occasionally does miracles today, such as healings or divine guidance, so long as these "miracles" do not accredit new doctrine or add to the New Testament canon. Richard Gaffin, John F. MacArthur and Daniel B. Wallace are perhaps the best-known classical cessationists.
Full Cessationists argue that along with no miraculous gifts, there are also no miracles performed by God today. This argument, of course, turns on one's understanding of the term, "miracle." B. B. Warfield, J. Gresham Machen, F.N. Lee.
Consistent Cessationists believe that not only were the miraculous gifts only for the establishment of the first-century church, but the so-called fivefold ministry found in Eph. 4 was also a transitional institution (i.e., There are no more apostles or prophets, but also no more pastors, teachers, or evangelists). For more information, click on
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Monergism :: Cessationists View Audio
~ its my position that of all generations, we should have expected this to happen, since
it is written.
and we really have no excuse, since this generation over all others has more information and historical data at our fingertips, we have the work of godly and faithful men and women who continue everyday to resist this leaven.
mysticism/experiential spiritism is not Christianity.
i guess it all comes down to choices: in what, and whom will i trust?
zone.
. I will not say THEY, but I will say WE! It is really easy to understand my friend. We are like squabbling children trying to find our way to our daddy. Some suppose they are children but are not (This is where you get certain issues,). But some are truly, as you say simply misguided in this quest for our Father. We are children in all, and we do need discipline. May Jesus bless you.
