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    Some people seem to have a hard time believing that another person can be saved who's views conflict with their own. I personally believe that there are geniune Christians in just about every mainline church regardless of denomination. However, I also believe that there are "workers of iniquity", people who profess to be saved yet their fruit clearly proves otherwise, in the very same churches where you will find genuine Christians.

    On these boards you will find lots of people who are very harsh toward those who do not agree with them. They don't seem to hestitate to call people names, use bitter insults and make false assumptions. They will even go so far as the make fun of another's beliefs. They love to use words like apostasy, heresy and heretic with little regard for the well being of others. They love to quote scripture in an attempt to make themselves out to be superior or more spiritual however, the truth is that they exalt knowlege over the souls of others.. These are the people that we need to look out for and ignore because scripture plainly states that those who do not love their brother are in darkness and that the love of God is not in them or with them. Of course they attempt to justify their behaviour with the idea that anyone who disagrees with them are not saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireOnTheAltar View Post
    Some people seem to have a hard time believing that another person can be saved who's views conflict with their own. I personally believe that there are geniune Christians in just about every mainline church regardless of denomination. However, I also believe that there are "workers of iniquity"
    God hates all workers of iniquity.

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    There is some Christian here that does not get along so well with their brothers and sisters, or they are not true Christians....they could be professing Christians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy4GODword View Post
    There is some Christian here that does not get along so well with their brothers and sisters, or they are not true Christians....they could be professing Christians
    Exactly, the sad part is these people are so religious they have no clue that they are even being used by the devil.

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    But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
    Titus 3:9 NIIV


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    wakeup nailed it. anybody can say anything,but if there actions don't back it up,then they might not be a true Christian.we are never going to agree on every point exactaly, but if someone is constantly doing un- Christian things then they might not be one. Short, nice and to the point......AMEN!
    Questioning God?...He made the braincells you think with, you do the math.

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    The ones who are really confident they are part of the elect, that they are going to heaven, that their bible version is best, that their chosen spiritual practice is the only right one...... they are least in the kingdom of heaven.

    It is the meek, the humble folks who are the most blessed.

    If you have thoughts that start with: "I'm proud to be a...." then it's pretty certain you will be least in the Kingdom of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selenah View Post
    I look at so many other Christians and sometimes they are just plane nasty to each other. They act so....childish with their "oh yeah, well blah blah blah" type attitude. I understand if they disagree with someone their trying to correct the person, but the way it's done is so sarcastic and nasty. They act like people who disagree with them are a bunch of stupid idiots instead of someone who is misguided. It's like bicker bicker bicker "you're wrong no you're wrong I'm right you're stupid you don't know what you're talking about."
    this is the internet.
    merely because an internet forum has the word CHRISTIAN in it, does not mean everyone posting at that forum is a Christian.

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    doesn't allow for the reality that many who claim to be Christians simply are not, and so the issue taken at times with some of those "different views" can mean the difference between sound doctrine and dangerous heresy.

    such an unpopular word today.

    how do we help someone who is "misguided" if they claim the authority for their position comes from The Almighty Himself? God TOLD them personally.

    and what do we do about the unsupecting people who listen to and believe that "prophet" or "apostle", for fear of blaspheming or "greiving" the Spirit by testing or questioning that person? do we just leave them to it? say AMEN?

    if the absence of "bickering" and sarcasm indicates "Christian" unity, what role does a correct understanding of, at the very least, the basics of the true Christian faith play?

    what about sound doctrine? what about The Authority of Scripture?

    does political correctness indicate deep spirituality?

    i wonder if, while we certainly will answer for being rude, will we not ALSO answer for saying AMEN to false doctrines and false prophets? for giving them the best seats, allowing them to hijack entire flocks? its happening today. right now. its been happening for a long time.

    a case in point: if anyone who has the courage to consider the following, and if they can in fact determine the veracity of cessationism in Scripture - (as well as using all the resources of the Historical Church from the early church fathers through the ages to today's theologians - and take the time to actually research certain movements)....what should be the position regarding people who claim personal, extra-biblical/canonical revelation? whether that person is a Pope or Modern Day Apostle?

    if cessationism is proven to be true, it makes the others deceived, and deceiving.

    The Third Wave is a satanic device to usurp the authority of the traditional church government, usurp and relegate the Authority of Scripture to second place under the NEW APOSTOLIC RESTORATION.

    they injected this leaven in stages via revived montanism.

    Neo-Montanism is not Christianity.

    Cessationists View Audio

    In Christian theology, cessationism is the view that the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as tongues, prophecy and healing, ceased being practiced early on in Church history. Cessationists usually believe the miraculous gifts were given only for the foundation of the Church, during the time between the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, c. AD 33 (see Acts 2) and the fulfillment of God's purposes in history, usually identified as either the completion of the last book of the New Testament or the death of the last Apostle.

    Cessationists are divided into four main groups:

    Concentric Cessationists believe that the miraculous gifts have indeed ceased in the mainstream church and evangelized areas, but appear in unreached areas as an aid to spreading the Gospel (Luther and Calvin, though they were somewhat inconsistent in this position).
    Classical cessationists assert that the "sign gifts" such as prophecy, healing and speaking in tongues ceased with the apostles and the finishing of the canon of Scripture. They only served as launching pads for the spreading of the Gospel; as affirmations of God's revelation. However, these cessationists do believe that God still occasionally does miracles today, such as healings or divine guidance, so long as these "miracles" do not accredit new doctrine or add to the New Testament canon. Richard Gaffin, John F. MacArthur and Daniel B. Wallace are perhaps the best-known classical cessationists.

    Full Cessationists argue that along with no miraculous gifts, there are also no miracles performed by God today. This argument, of course, turns on one's understanding of the term, "miracle." B. B. Warfield, J. Gresham Machen, F.N. Lee.

    Consistent Cessationists believe that not only were the miraculous gifts only for the establishment of the first-century church, but the so-called fivefold ministry found in Eph. 4 was also a transitional institution (i.e., There are no more apostles or prophets, but also no more pastors, teachers, or evangelists). For more information, click on Wikipedia.

    CLICK LINK BELOW FOR A GOOD SELECTION OF mp3 AUDIO presentations which prove Cessationism.

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    ~ its my position that of all generations, we should have expected this to happen, since it is written.

    and we really have no excuse, since this generation over all others has more information and historical data at our fingertips, we have the work of godly and faithful men and women who continue everyday to resist this leaven.

    mysticism/experiential spiritism is not Christianity.

    i guess it all comes down to choices: in what, and whom will i trust?
    zone.
    Last edited by zone; May 8th, 2011 at 10:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selenah View Post
    I look at so many other Christians and sometimes they are just plane nasty to each other. They act so....childish with their "oh yeah, well blah blah blah" type attitude. I understand if they disagree with someone their trying to correct the person, but the way it's done is so sarcastic and nasty. They act like people who disagree with them are a bunch of stupid idiots instead of someone who is misguided. It's like bicker bicker bicker "you're wrong no you're wrong I'm right you're stupid you don't know what you're talking about."
    I do not understand all that either as I had known people doing that and it has been done to me a few times / but when even I was a 'baby christian' too..some even will tell the other they are going to Hell or are not saved just because they do not agree on something very minor ..BUT I have not seen it in this site and hope it does not have to be seen here. The idea I seen saying to a brother they are going to Hell is very bad and should not come out of the other's mouth in meaness and even nastiness .. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selenah View Post
    I look at so many other Christians and sometimes they are just plane nasty to each other. They act so....childish with their "oh yeah, well blah blah blah" type attitude. I understand if they disagree with someone their trying to correct the person, but the way it's done is so sarcastic and nasty. They act like people who disagree with them are a bunch of stupid idiots instead of someone who is misguided. It's like bicker bicker bicker "you're wrong no you're wrong I'm right you're stupid you don't know what you're talking about."
    . I will not say THEY, but I will say WE! It is really easy to understand my friend. We are like squabbling children trying to find our way to our daddy. Some suppose they are children but are not (This is where you get certain issues,). But some are truly, as you say simply misguided in this quest for our Father. We are children in all, and we do need discipline. May Jesus bless you.

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    Because of, are you ready for this? PRIDE IS THE #1 TOOL OF OUR SPIRITUAL ENEMY!!!

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    The same reason non christians are so nasty to each other when they have different veiws. You think because you believe Jesus Christ died for you're sins you are exempt from human nature ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewgrass7 View Post
    Because of, are you ready for this? PRIDE IS THE #1 TOOL OF OUR SPIRITUAL ENEMY!!!
    i would say confusion is his most effective tool.
    he certainly takes advantage of our pride, ignorance, fear etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XboughtwithapriceX View Post
    Amen to that!

    I think it all really boils down to if your heart is in the right place, God knows us inside and out, he knows our true intentions.
    A beautiful answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    i would say confusion is his most effective tool.
    he certainly takes advantage of our pride, ignorance, fear etc.
    I would say projecting our own insecurities on to some allegorical figure is far more dangerous. While ever we ascribe external cause to our own pain and confusion pride and intolerance is the result. Engaged in some kind of struggle with a personification of our own fear and the symbolic "acting out" which results from feeling we can't express and be met in the love of Christ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forlorn-Hope View Post
    The same reason non christians are so nasty to each other when they have different veiws. You think because you believe Jesus Christ died for you're sins you are exempt from human nature ?
    Not exempt, but even a decent person outside the church has enough integrity to know that someone’s perspective is the result of their experience and contact with love and wisdom. Knowing that some people suffer from great deprivations of the soul, and knowing this in the heart brings an acceptance of another person’s standpoint. Tolerance is a virtue much maligned and often overlooked but it is the way a person moves from the demand that a person obey the word of god, to an invitation from the spirit of god which validates the word. Words without spirit are barren. And spirit without the word is potentially myopic.

    Kindness and empathy are the proving tonse of the words surely?

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    Certian things i feel it is important to be very clear about, so i would like to clear up a couple of points, that although they are good points, i don't feel they have been stated with enough clarity.

    Pride, though this is a weapon of our enemy; as Christ so clearly demonstrated when he held up the little child, I feel that it is important to know that this is also the principle charge that satan, our enemy is not only convicted of, but also sentenced to death for.(hasn't taken place Yet.)

    Wanted to be God Himself; and God is actually going to let satan portray himself as God, are we ready for that? Christs words; Do Not be Deceived.

    I would agree that he has quite an arsenal of feelings to use against us as mentioned in the above posts, both positive (false pride) and negative (depression, fear, guilt etc...) but i would agree with Zone on this point, that his number one weapon of choice is most definitly Confusion.

    Satan, Lucifer, the serpent, the dragon, the devil, the son of predition, is none other than The King of Babylon. Babylon means Confusion. These different names he has, pertain to the role he is playing, at the time.

    The one we all need to be aware of in this generation;( my opinion of course) would be the role that satan plays, when he is reffered to as; the False Morning Star.

    This i think should in a sense, also answer your question.

    Forever in Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan22 View Post
    I would say projecting our own insecurities on to some allegorical figure is far more dangerous. While ever we ascribe external cause to our own pain and confusion pride and intolerance is the result. Engaged in some kind of struggle with a personification of our own fear and the symbolic "acting out" which results from feeling we can't express and be met in the love of Christ?
    satan is an allegorical figure?

    in any case, i never blame satan for my own sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selenah View Post
    I look at so many other Christians and sometimes they are just plane nasty to each other. They act so....childish with their "oh yeah, well blah blah blah" type attitude. I understand if they disagree with someone their trying to correct the person, but the way it's done is so sarcastic and nasty. They act like people who disagree with them are a bunch of stupid idiots instead of someone who is misguided. It's like bicker bicker bicker "you're wrong no you're wrong I'm right you're stupid you don't know what you're talking about."
    Amen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    satan is an allegorical figure?

    in any case, i never blame satan for my own sin.

    If I am deliberating whether or not to harm someone or steal something it isn't some symbol of evil that is testing me. It is my own conviction in the universal love of god. If I am separated by increments from that I no longer feel my brother’s pain as my own. And he becomes a target of denied pain and anger. Not a brother to be protected as I would protect myself, but a vessel into which I pour scorn. The devil is the lack of god’s love. What happens when we value "things" above people and feelings? I know god through a comparison with fear which is about suffering I have endured, and whose covenant is the love of god in healing contact with me. And the fear that if I don’t drive a Mercedes people will think me a looser.

    This fear is fear whose source has become lost in the mists of my own life. It has acquired many wants, but does not know its needs, since these are the soil of the Holy Spirit whose fertile nurturing presence has become choked by the weeds of symbolic want, and which sap the life-force of campassion.

    Love is god and god is love. When we own our own pain and seek the compassion of the Christ our judgements upon others are illuminated by this light. Judge not lest you be judged.

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