New Age: New Apostolic Reformation

[AnandaHya]

anyways back to the NAR

so does anyone support Joyner?

you done any research yet 4runner? have you learned who NAR is? have you read Joyner's "prophecies"?

Or are you too busy slandering people and telling us how stupid and blind we are for thinking Zone actually loves Jesus?

ok nice diversionary tactic... so any answers yet?

 

[4runner]

ok nice diversionary tactic

Yes let all forget this little denial of the deity of Christ and let all bash the NAR guys some more. I wonder if they believe Jesus is God?

 

[Deadflesh]

Yes let all forget this little denial of the deity of Christ and let all bash the NAR guys some more. I wonder if they believe Jesus is God?

DO you know what Satire means 4Runner? So(wether or not Zone SHOULD have been sarcastic or Not) since that post you quoted was sarcasm, why do you still insist that she is denying the deity of Jesus?

 

[Deadflesh]

Yes let all forget this little denial of the deity of Christ and let all bash the NAR guys some more. I wonder if they believe Jesus is God?

And Also, Why are you defending NAR if you claimed to not even know who they are? Now im not askign this in an attack, but in love, becasue these men are evil. And i could show you poof apon proof of how, but if you not willign to see you wont ever.

But why defend peopel you claim to not know?

 

[AnandaHya]

DO you know what Satire means 4Runner? So(wether or not Zone SHOULD have been sarcastic or Not) since that post you quoted was sarcasm, why do you still insist that she is denying the deity of Jesus?

because pride does not allow him to admit he judged wrongly and falsely accused her.

not ignoring it. already addressed on another thread. why should the same info be repeated?

mmm where did i put that red herring???.....

 

[4runner]

why do you still insist that she is denying the deity of Jesus?

I insist she did, because she did. If ashe wants to say she was wrong, I can deal with that, but for her to claim she was just joking...well... I aint buying it, even if you do.

 

[4runner]

because pride does not allow him to admit he judged wrongly and falsely accused her.

I judged no one wrongly and you are the one who is prideful

 

[4runner]

And Also, Why are you defending NAR

Show me one place I defended NAR, but beware, if you do I might just claim I was joking

 

[AnandaHya]

Show me one place I defended NAR, but beware, if you do I might just claim I was joking

only if you attach the word SATIRE to the post, which you still haven't shown you understand the meaning of that word...

how about we stop running around and you just tell us upfront what you think of NAR?

keep in mind DF is not a cessationist.

have you done any research?

lets talk about the topic of this thread NAR and stop trying to make ad-hominem attacks because they do not cover up logical fallacies or hold any truth to them.

 

[4runner]

how about we stop running around and you just tell us upfront what you think of NAR?

I dont think nothing about them. Going after NAR is someone else's cross to bare. God has sent me to the lost within the church to teach righteousness in Christ and to warn people against the lie of the pretrib rapture. If you believe God has called you to expose NAR be my guest.

 

[AnandaHya]

then why are you on this thread?

 

[4runner]

then why are you on this thread?

I was just reading through it. Dont blame me for the side track. This thread was going off way before I joined in.

 

[Deadflesh]

I insist she did, because she did. If she wants to say she was wrong, I can deal with that, but for her to claim she was just joking...well... I aint buying it, even if you do.

So then your pride and hatred(sin and sin) are making you act the fool and stand defending people you claim to not know(or know about), becasue you see a woman(who spends her life exposing the falsehood God shows her) and you hate her.

I agree she may hate You too, and thats BOTH pride, and hatred on all parties.

But your the one who says SIN is not to be tollerated. So Why sin? makes you a hypocrite too. Which is Sin.

So thats three counts of Rebellion torwards GOD and the bretheren. Also baring false witness. Which is count number four. So PLEASE my dear friend, and i say dear becasue its true, PLEASE repent, becasue i think this may blind you.

I say this in love. if you noticed i try not to get carried away in these arguments to much. but if i see someoen claimign to be bretheren sinning i will tell them. So I love you 4Runner, and i point it out to you. You are in sin. So YOU Claiming that your CALL is to preach righteousness, then you BETTER go and cry mourn and weep for forgiveness, becasue you are in sin. Its aparent. I do NOT doubt God called you to preach righteousness. I do Doubt you see that you are unrighteouss at the moment.


Also, I have posted a few thigns by this women Pat holiday. She is a tounge speaking, Diliverence Minister. Who believes in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.(hey she also doesnt belive in a pretrib rapture) She ALSO devotes her life to exposing Falsehood, and Wolves who are there to steal the sheep from the Master. She Sees the pure evil in the NAR as well, and the decpetion that they cause others. ARe ALL involved straight from the Devil? I dunno but the teachigns sure as Hell are. So Look into these thigns that, I AGAIN am posting. I will post her Website first, and then her newsletters/articles on the NAR/ and all this new-age christiantiy/dominionist teaching that is anti Christ. And thats the final time i'll say anything about it.

Pastor Pat Holliday, Ph.D

MASONRY
THIRD WAVE
08-13-2011 Gov. Rick Perry Joel's Army
08-03-2011 KUNDALINI SNAKE DEVILS GOSPEL MERCHANDISERS
06-17-2011 Rick Joyner - Magical Thinking <---Important one
05-20-2011 SOUL HUSTLERS - Third wave,Knights of Malta,Rick Joyner pt. 2
05-20-2011 SOUL HUSTLERS - Third wave,Knights of Malta,Rick Joyner
01-04-2011 Lucy Rael the Witch that Fools Christians
12-28-2010 SPRITUALISM NECROMANCY CHRISTIANITY <---Importnat One
12-02-2010 John Kirkpatrick A KINGDOM DIVIDED SHALL NOT STAND
11-24-2010 Peter Wagner retires - anoints Chuck Pierce. <---important one
10-14-2010 Cindy Jacobs Prophetess to the Nations of Third Wave <---Just plain Creepy
09-24-10 Patricia King Feather Goddess
08-03-10 Patricia King Hyway to False Heaven
07-17-10 Peter Wagner Aleister Crowley BABALON STARGATE <----Important one
07-13-10 ITZ GOD - cosmic Christ <---Important one

 

[4runner]

So then your pride and hatred(sin and sin) are making you act the fool and stand defending people you claim to not know(or know about),

I say you pride is hatred, and you have twice falsley accused me of defending NAR without ever providing any evidence for you accusation.

Will you show where I defended NAR, admit you are wrong about me defended NAR or allow your pride to refuse to do either, showing everyone you hate me?

Please brother repent of your hatred.

 

[4runner]

Pastor Pat Holliday, Ph.D

MASONRY
THIRD WAVE
08-13-2011 Gov. Rick Perry Joel's Army
08-03-2011 KUNDALINI SNAKE DEVILS GOSPEL MERCHANDISERS
06-17-2011 Rick Joyner - Magical Thinking <---Important one
05-20-2011 SOUL HUSTLERS - Third wave,Knights of Malta,Rick Joyner pt. 2
05-20-2011 SOUL HUSTLERS - Third wave,Knights of Malta,Rick Joyner
01-04-2011 Lucy Rael the Witch that Fools Christians
12-28-2010 SPRITUALISM NECROMANCY CHRISTIANITY <---Importnat One
12-02-2010 John Kirkpatrick A KINGDOM DIVIDED SHALL NOT STAND
11-24-2010 Peter Wagner retires - anoints Chuck Pierce. <---important one
10-14-2010 Cindy Jacobs Prophetess to the Nations of Third Wave <---Just plain Creepy
09-24-10 Patricia King Feather Goddess
08-03-10 Patricia King Hyway to False Heaven
07-17-10 Peter Wagner Aleister Crowley BABALON STARGATE <----Important one
07-13-10 ITZ GOD - cosmic Christ <---Important one

first of all I could care less about whatever Pat Holiday says, for all I know he is the one we should be looking out for. Secondly I dont see anyone on his list that I even listen to or subscribe to. So go on with your ''you hate Zone'' ''you defend NAR'', both of those are lies, therefore you are in sin.

 

[4runner]

Will you show where I defended NAR, admit you are wrong about me defended NAR or allow your pride to refuse to do either, showing everyone you hate me?

Well.... Where the post where i defended NAR. You claim I hate Zone because I believe her own words, yet you wont post anything where I defended NAR. WOW you must really hate me. You believe things about me I didnt even say jokingly or otherwise.

Remember hate is sin.

 

[AnandaHya]

sigh DF here is the quote....(so you see he is not defending or opposing but being lukewarm on the matter)

Re: What the NAR really is:
I do not support or oppose NAR, but I do oppose those that oppose NAR, especially the wolf we know as Zone. So I am going to find out who they really are before deciding anything rather than taking a wolf's word for it.

(When I says wolf I mean Zone, not you maggy)


so 4runner are you a man of your word... are you "going to find out who they really are"?

or are you just not going to decide and allow the wolves to devour the sheep entrusted to you that you are currently ministering to?

its kind of important if you truly are a teacher to know these things. if you were just you, then you could chose to ignore it but the undershepherd has a responsibility to spot dangers to the flock unless they are hirelings...

 

[4runner]

sigh DF here is the quote....(so you see he is not defending or opposing but being lukewarm on the matter)

Re: What the NAR really is:
I do not support or oppose NAR, but I do oppose those that oppose NAR, especially the wolf we know as Zone. So I am going to find out who they really are before deciding anything rather than taking a wolf's word for it.

(When I says wolf I mean Zone, not you maggy)


so 4runner are you a man of your word... are you "going to find out who they really are"?

or are you just not going to decide and allow the wolves to devour the sheep entrusted to you that you are currently ministering to?

its kind of important if you truly are a teacher to know these things. if you were just you, then you could chose to ignore it but the undershepherd has a responsibility to spot dangers to the flock unless they are hirelings...

I will teach the truth of scripture and leave the heresy hunting to you. How about that?

 

[Deadflesh]

I say you pride is hatred, and you have twice falsley accused me of defending NAR without ever providing any evidence for you accusation.

Will you show where I defended NAR, admit you are wrong about me defended NAR or allow your pride to refuse to do either, showing everyone you hate me?

Please brother repent of your hatred.

I didnt say pride is hatred. i say you exibit both(pride wichis is sin, and hatred which is sin). And its sad because other thigns you have said i tend to agree with you on, I know you love the LORD, But that doesnt mean your not in sin.

I pointed out to you that you are. Now its your Job to take it, belive it, and if you CANT see it, brign it To the Father, and ask him what im talking about, ask him to show you, to tell you. Again, im not saying any of this to attack you. I love you my friend. I dont come with hatred in my heart. I hate sin, and falsehood. NOT people. I dotn even hate Rick joyner, sometiems the lord moves me to pray for people like him, somtiems the LORD does not. Rick joyner, Cindy jacobs, All these people are deceived and deceiving others, adn it sadens me to no end.

Yes all who have attacked NAR are false teachers, and false prophets. That certainly makes me wonder why they would attack them

All who have attacked NAR are flase teachers/Prophets. So that means NAR MUST be True in your opinion yes?

So the question would be #1 Can you quote anything he has said that opposes scripture, and #2 Does he call attention to himself or glorify Christ. If the answer to these question are no, or even if you do not know the answer whether it is yes or no, then you have no reason to jump on the persecute Rick Joyner band wagon.

My answer to these questions are i do not know. And I certainly will not take the word of a bunch of censationalist that will attack you, me or anyone else that believes in the gifts of the holy Spirit.

So you want somthign that shows that Rick joyner opposes Scripture, and you want it from a a person WHO IS NOT CESSATIONist.


I provided you both in ONE, Pat Holiday, TRULY look into her stuff. She knows what she is talking about(as does Zone as much as you apose her)

 

[AnandaHya]

I will teach the truth of scripture and leave the heresy hunting to you. How about that?

soo i take that as a no you are not going to research them and prefer ignorance on the subject?