Unbeliever here, ok so a few questions stemming here.
a) If judgement is not the 'heaven or hell' decision, what is it?
b) Is satan the manager of hell (biblically speaking, I seem to interpret other fallen angels ie demons, are in hell, but Satan is not)
2 Peter 2:4 KJV
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment"
a)*this one doesn't explicity state demons are cast to hell, but does seem to say that those that are (if they are) are in chains and darkness. Does this mean fallen angels/demons are not the ones who torment [sinners] in hell, but would be alongside men in the 'lake of fire'?
Jude 1:6 KJV
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
b)So the fallen angels are 'in chains and darkness', in hell (inferred by 2 Peter 2:4), and are awaiting judgement. What does judgement respresent?
From what I understand, there is no battle for souls (Job 1:6-11 and Luke 22:31-33- Satan needs permission to act, i.e. under sovereign control of God)...it seems he's not even a total outcast but still given some control over Earth which (dare I say it) is perhaps an instrument of God to test faith in a battle for glorification. I haven't found anything to suggest Satan is a torturer in hell of the damned (i'm not even sure he does that) or rejoices at the pain and suffering, God condemns the sinners to hell, where they go or what happens to sinners doesn't relate to the intention of Satan. Biblically speaking Satan's sole intention seems to be encouraging the rejection of god (stop the glorification of God i.e. worship), so the main question that I follow with... is; backing up with verses, c) to what extent has Satan encouraged crimes such as murder/rape/secular crimes in order to deglorify God, and in each case, do you believe these actions are under the permission of God?
I feel these questions could tie to how we percieve Satan, not as a practicioner of evil in general, but as one who 'legally?' works to deglorify god, allowed because it can swing both ways (to glorify also) as the result of trials and tribulations.
constructive criticisms and slander of these thoughts are appreciated
a) If judgement is not the 'heaven or hell' decision, what is it?
b) Is satan the manager of hell (biblically speaking, I seem to interpret other fallen angels ie demons, are in hell, but Satan is not)
2 Peter 2:4 KJV
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment"
a)*this one doesn't explicity state demons are cast to hell, but does seem to say that those that are (if they are) are in chains and darkness. Does this mean fallen angels/demons are not the ones who torment [sinners] in hell, but would be alongside men in the 'lake of fire'?
Jude 1:6 KJV
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
b)So the fallen angels are 'in chains and darkness', in hell (inferred by 2 Peter 2:4), and are awaiting judgement. What does judgement respresent?
From what I understand, there is no battle for souls (Job 1:6-11 and Luke 22:31-33- Satan needs permission to act, i.e. under sovereign control of God)...it seems he's not even a total outcast but still given some control over Earth which (dare I say it) is perhaps an instrument of God to test faith in a battle for glorification. I haven't found anything to suggest Satan is a torturer in hell of the damned (i'm not even sure he does that) or rejoices at the pain and suffering, God condemns the sinners to hell, where they go or what happens to sinners doesn't relate to the intention of Satan. Biblically speaking Satan's sole intention seems to be encouraging the rejection of god (stop the glorification of God i.e. worship), so the main question that I follow with... is; backing up with verses, c) to what extent has Satan encouraged crimes such as murder/rape/secular crimes in order to deglorify God, and in each case, do you believe these actions are under the permission of God?
I feel these questions could tie to how we percieve Satan, not as a practicioner of evil in general, but as one who 'legally?' works to deglorify god, allowed because it can swing both ways (to glorify also) as the result of trials and tribulations.
constructive criticisms and slander of these thoughts are appreciated
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