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You have to define what "rock and roll" is if you want to condemn it.
Do drums and guitars make it rocK and roll?
I have liked reliant k quite a bit in the past...and they have some pretty amazing songs on their earlier cds...I just listened to switchfoot's meant to live, and it as well seems to suggest what I if not a lot of people feel in the world right now...
God bless
tony
Do drums and guitars make it rocK and roll?
I have liked reliant k quite a bit in the past...and they have some pretty amazing songs on their earlier cds...I just listened to switchfoot's meant to live, and it as well seems to suggest what I if not a lot of people feel in the world right now...
God bless
tony
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People are ignorant on what the Bible teaches on worship and holiness. We live in a seeker sensitive culture not a Savior sensitive culture. People tie in worldly music with holy words and think the outcome is holy music.
When something is clean and touches dirt the dirt doesn't become clean, but the object becomes dirty.
When something is clean and touches dirt the dirt doesn't become clean, but the object becomes dirty.
C
This is my opinion ,if the beat of the music gets my sons attention and in doing so he hears the word of God thru this music and is saved , God used it, and yes it does happen, to save another soul . After that, He, God ,The Holy Spirit , will lead him or whoever in the path He would have them to go , if God doesnt like the music God will tell him so . We so often forget we all are a work in progress, we havent arrived yet . Like ive heard many times We help catch em but let God clean em . Not the other way around.
This is my opinion ,if the beat of the music gets my sons attention and in doing so he hears the word of God thru this music and is saved , God used it, and yes it does happen, to save another soul . After that, He, God ,The Holy Spirit , will lead him or whoever in the path He would have them to go , if God doesnt like the music God will tell him so . We so often forget we all are a work in progress, we havent arrived yet . Like ive heard many times We help catch em but let God clean em . Not the other way around.
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You clearly do not know what worship is.
Worship \Wor"ship\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Worshipedor Worshipped; p. pr. & vb. n. Worshiping or Worshipping.]
1. To respect; to honor; to treat with civil reverence. [Obsoles.]
--Chaucer.
Our grave . . . shall have a tongueless mouth, Not worshiped with a waxen epitaph. --Shak.
This holy image that is man God worshipeth. --Foxe.
2. To pay divine honors to; to reverence with supreme respect and veneration; to perform religious exercises in honor of; to adore; to venerate.
But God is to be worshiped. --Shak.
When all our fathers worshiped stocks and stones. --Milton.
3. To honor with extravagant love and extreme submission, as a lover; to adore; to idolize.
With bended knees I daily worship her. --Carew.
Syn: To adore; revere; reverence; bow to; honor.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
And you take Matthew 28 out of context..
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:18-20 (KJV)
Jesus never commanded the disciples to use music to draw people to church.
Worship \Wor"ship\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Worshipedor Worshipped; p. pr. & vb. n. Worshiping or Worshipping.]
1. To respect; to honor; to treat with civil reverence. [Obsoles.]
--Chaucer.
Our grave . . . shall have a tongueless mouth, Not worshiped with a waxen epitaph. --Shak.
This holy image that is man God worshipeth. --Foxe.
2. To pay divine honors to; to reverence with supreme respect and veneration; to perform religious exercises in honor of; to adore; to venerate.
But God is to be worshiped. --Shak.
When all our fathers worshiped stocks and stones. --Milton.
3. To honor with extravagant love and extreme submission, as a lover; to adore; to idolize.
With bended knees I daily worship her. --Carew.
Syn: To adore; revere; reverence; bow to; honor.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
And you take Matthew 28 out of context..
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt 28:18-20 (KJV)
Jesus never commanded the disciples to use music to draw people to church.
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This is my opinion ,if the beat of the music gets my sons attention and in doing so he hears the word of God thru this music and is saved , God used it, and yes it does happen, to save another soul . After that, He, God ,The Holy Spirit , will lead him or whoever in the path He would have them to go , if God doesnt like the music God will tell him so . We so often forget we all are a work in progress, we havent arrived yet . Like ive heard many times We help catch em but let God clean em . Not the other way around.
She knows exactly what worship is, i think it is you who are confussed.... when we worship god in any form and she named some examples there... it is done in revrence.. in honor, because that is the whole reason to do those things... you are trying to lead people to the lord..... you dont get more respectful than that
Baptistrw you have quoted scripture after scripture about this, but when i asked you earlier how you think we should get people to church to hear the word of god.......... your silent....... no where in the bible did it say we cannot use music to draw the unsaved to church... God created the people that came up with the drums the guitar, all of our instruments..... he gave us music...... should we ignore a tool that could help us get the unbelievers to church to hear the word of god....
He didn't exactly not say that either. Your not going to bring people to Christ by coming up to them, and preaching a sermon at them, or saying "You're a sinner repent" If you try it like that you most likely will get the finger. Music is a good way to break the ice and open the topic for more discussion. I am not saying listen to the Christian music and thats it your a Christian. Music is a tool for us to get the attention of non believers. Also worship to me is honoring God I don't care about a textbook definition, and one way to honor God is to bring more people to him
M
Baptist God looks at the heart.....always........ 2 people can be in a service particpating in the singing etc......1 might be worshipping in the flesh, going through the motions and joining in coz it's the latest Hillsong song and it's the 'cool' thing to do......and the other person, whilst listening to the same music, genuinely pours out their heart to God in reverent worship.
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The problem with the seeker sensitive movement is it places the job of drawing people in on us, not on God. See the book of Acts for the work of the Holy Spirit in drawing people to God. I'm sure music could draw people to church now, but it shouldn't be the worlds music that does the drawing nor should it be what we depend on for it.
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